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I finally located the Acronis True Image 11 disc I used to review the product (Acronis has been strangely uncommunicative recently) and it works with this setup so I've moved to it for the backup images.

Vista did not like it when I turned on the JMicron AHCI eSATA controller. It was all of a sudden hanging during boot. I imagine trying to figure out what that controller and drive were doing there. I had to boot to safe mode to install the driver. Even booting into safe mode took a long time. Perhaps if I'd been more patient with the normal boot, but I thought ten minutes was enough.

I have the Logitech Z-5500 speakers out of the box. With the size of the subwoofer, I imagine they'll disturb folks blocks away. Personally, I don't like bass braggarts unless they're at a dance club. Unfortunately, Logitech didn't include an optical light pipe or RCA cable for digital hookup so I can't take a listen yet. At least with the EMU 1616m which will only drive them that way. I could use the analog out of the on board HD audio. Nah.

I'll grab a couple of these from my personal stash at home and bring them in tomorrow. At least they tinned the ends of the analog speaker cables and marked the positive leads clearly. The connectors on both the sub woofer and the satellite speakers are pressure clamp types. I do very much like the way the base on the four front and back speakers swivel for wall mounting or simply sitting on a suitable surface.

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It occurs to me after just watching someone struggle mightily with a large package, many folks could use a couple of tips on box unpacking and packing.

The Rollover Technique

When you have something heavy in a box, don't kill yourself or your back trying to lift it out. Open one end, pull the flaps back so that they lie parallel to the box surface, roll the box over so the open end is facing against the floor, then simply slide the box up and off. Be careful. The way some boxes are packed, loose stuff can fall out. Examine the contents before you attempt this and perhaps enlist a friend to watch and assist in case of such a circumstance.

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Organize the Packing Materials

If there's a chance you're going to send the item back, place the packing materials back in the box exactly as they were when you opened it. This of course means you must observe how they are oriented, before and during the unpacking. Believe me, when you revisit the box two weeks later for the repacking it will save you a ton of time. Be careful to observe arrows and up/down markers on molded foam pieces.

More later.

Cheers, Jon



Mar 30, 2008 11:36 AM Click to view rgreen4's profile rgreen4

Vista only loads the drivers it needs when it initially installs. You may have had the AHCI off when you installed Vista and if you then turn it on you will encounter the problem you described. I'm a little surprised you didn't get a BSOD. When I installed Vista on my build, the AHCI was off by default when I installed Vista. I turned it on and on reboot, it blue screened. I then turned it back off, and Vista booted as per normal. I keep it off because I also have XP and W2K on this machine.

Mar 30, 2008 12:10 PM Click to view jonljacobi's profile jonljacobi in response to: rgreen4

Yup, I think it was off. No biggie, but I did download the driver from www.jmicron.www and it works fine under XP as well. Vista might indeed have blue-screened. It was just black! ;-)

Mar 30, 2008 1:49 PM Click to view Number3124's profile Number3124

I was reading some previous blog post and I noticed I lot of BSoDs. Is there a chance that a list on programs the BSoD will end up coming with the rig so that way no one ends up getting surprised when there shiny, new Dream PC BSoD when they exit a program or something?

Mar 30, 2008 6:17 PM Click to view fourthRegency's profile fourthRegency in response to: Number3124

good point.

Mar 31, 2008 8:36 AM Click to view jonljacobi's profile jonljacobi in response to: Number3124

My goal is no BSoDs when it ships, otherwise I wouldn't be spending all this time on it. The vast majority were due to games under XP with the immature 9800 GX2 drivers. I've moved both Flight Sim X and Crysis to Vista 64 and that's ended those. Today I'll move the others and reduce the XP partition drastically in size. The only others remaining are with the PE2 boot discs occasionally. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot I can do about that until they're updated. I've asked Acronis to provide Disk Director as well as True Image as the new versions seem to work fine, though I haven't tried them with the SLI bridge connector in place.

That said, I'll put together a cheat sheet of all the whys and wherefores of the system, where to find stuff, what may be missing or will need updating, etc. I'm not one to simply stuff things in a box and say it's your problem now. ;-)

Cheers, Jon

Mar 31, 2008 11:21 AM Click to view Number3124's profile Number3124 in response to: jonljacobi

Yeah this it probably the first time in a while anyone has had to wait for the software to mature. That said I can't wait for some QuadSLI drivers for XP.

Mar 31, 2008 8:28 PM Click to view smax013's profile smax013

I can say that the Logitech speakers work well. I got a set to use with my computer, but ended up using them in my home entertainment center with my projector, AppleTV and an upscanning DVD player for my "theature" setup. The rotating bases were really nice to mount the speakers to the wall. Overall, it is a nice setup to watch movies and sporting events. They give good sound...and I did not have to spend a fortune to go get high end audio speakers that one would normally use with a theater system. Point is that they work rather well as a home theater 5.1 setup.

Mar 31, 2008 8:28 PM Click to view smax013's profile smax013 in response to: smax013

Oh, and yes the subwoofer is massive, which results in a HUGE, heavy box.

Mar 31, 2008 8:30 PM Click to view smax013's profile smax013 in response to: smax013

And I should note that the more "standard" speaker wire meant that I did not have to jump through hoops to setup the speakers with longer wire runs in my family room that one would have with typical computer speaker type connections.

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