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Monster, Monster Garage

Posted by jonljacobi Mar 24, 2008


Waaaaaa! Even with the Gigabyte 3D Mercury's PSU mounting extension, there's no way the extra-long Ultra X3 is going to fit in this case. See the pic below. (when I figure out why there's no photo insert option in the editor now) The cooling stuff simply takes up too much room at the top of the case. Major bummer. I've already sung the praises of the Ultra's high-quality connectors. If you can fit one, buy one.

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The shorter Thermaltake ToughPower W1033 will have to fill in and it's no slouch, but the connectors aren't quite as nicely finished. It's also not as sexy appearance-wise. That's right, I'm all about the shape consciousness.

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As you might have guessed, it's time to put the components in the case. Got the QX9650 this morning, but we're still waiting on memory. Right now there's two 1GB sticks of Corsair 2000MHz. By the way, your 790i Ultra SLI manual may say that you must put memory in slots 2 & 4 if you're running over 1800MHz. That's true, but what they meant to say is that you must have modules in those slots, but you can have them in 1 & 3 as well to run 4GB at the faster speeds. There's a big debate here over 4GB of 2000MHz as opposed to 8GB of 1600MHz. We're thinking more is better in terms of WorldBench but we'll see on Monday.


I forgot the cardinal rule of system building and piled everything (not literally) in the case and pressed the power button. You guessed it, nothing much happened outside of a few beeps. Actually, it may have been that I switched the CPU and didn't test it. I pulled everything out and put the board on the table and after a few tweaks and clearing the CMOS, everything was happy again.


I'm about to bag it for today and head home. Currently the BIOS system monitor is running (44c for the QX9650 with the Zalman fan in lieu of LC) with both SSDs, the two Sony BluRay drives, and a GeForce 7800GT in place of the two 9800 GX2s. I'll add one component at a time until I've got everything up and running again.


That FB DDR2 800 memory on the D5400XS ran super hot. This Corsair DDR3 2000MHz, is not even close. Could be partly that the motherboard design isn't as cramped. This 790i is pretty nice, though I wish it were a bit thicker and didn't flex as much. Those 9800 GX2s weigh a ton. I'm using every mounting point and glad the 3D Mercury chassis has a support pad in the middle of where the board lies.


More tomorrow.


Cheers, Jon

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Partitions, Time for Plan B?

Posted by jonljacobi Mar 22, 2008

Since there's really nothing I could do to expedite the development of the extremely new hardware components involved in the build, I switched to the software front. As you may have read in my previous posts, the ATI kernel DLL was causing problems with the XP install, so I had to retreat from the 3870 X2s. With the two GPU boards removed, only software problems remained. Or at least so I thought.

Having installed Vista Ultimate 64 on one 80GB partition, I had 40GB left on the SSDs (striped in RAID 0) for XP SP2. Normally a not a big deal. However, when you're planning to employ a boot manager that's going to hide one partition to use the other, you need to make sure you install XP on what it thinks is, and will be seen as the C: drive. As it stood, Vista was on C:. No problem, simply hide the partition, right? Well that should have been easy.

Unfortunately, my old standby Acronis Disk Manager, a Linux-based partition utility, apparently lacked the drivers for the Intel RAID matrix and/or Marvel eSata controller and wouldn't boot. I then tried Microsoft's DISKPART utility which comes with the PE2-based Active @ Boot disc, however, it only allowed me to hide/unhide partitions en masse with an MBR-based hard drive. I.e., hide em' all or show em' all.

I was just about to give up and delete the Vista 64 partition and reinstall that OS later when Paragon's Partition Manager 9.0 came to the rescue. Using PE2 (windows PrE-install version 2) it picked up on both RAID controllers without my so much as having to load a driver. It's my new favorite and a real gem. The Adaptec 3405 isn't attached since I can't use it and the Marvell at the same time until Intel fixes the D5400XS BIOS.

This would seem to have solved my problem, however, XP's install came up with a CRC error which probably means that some of the files copied from the CD weren't recognized. This most likely means a RAID driver problem. I finally buckled, removed Vista 64 and devoted the entire disk to the XP installation, but that didn't help one iota. After switching the D5400XS from RAID to IDE mode, the XP install crashed immediately after the first reboot. I hate to say it, but I'm running out of time and patience. According to a reader, this whole deal is a known issue with this chipset so I'll investigate over the weekend. Rest assured, I'm NOT going to send out a system that won't let you install Windows XP!

Plan B

This might mean implementing a plan B based on an nVidia SLi system or Intel X38 Crossfire system. I would lean towards an Asus P5N-T Deluxe and two liquid-cooled EVGA Black Pearl 8800 Ultras (as suggested in the forum by number3124. thanks!) which would also make room for the return of the Emu 1616m sound card. Actually, simply using the Black Pearls on the D5400XS might make room for the EMU. I have an email in to EVGA. Yeah! Feel free to chime in on this folks--one of you will be winning it.

Mar 15th Addendum: No matter what card I use, I'll be looking for low-profile cooling blocks like you'll find at Koolance

We finally opted for the faster Sony BWU200S to replace the Plextor PX-900's. Partition Manager 9 is sitting on top of one of the BWU200's in the picture below.

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I appreciate all the thoughts and suggestions folks. Keep em' coming.

Till Monday...

Jon

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Fired up all three monitors today, and as you can see--it's both impressive and takes a lot of space.

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Turns out, Flight Sim X doesn't like Vista 64 very much, or the ATI drivers, or something. I couldn't get it to run anywhere close to acceptably. We knew games might be an issue, which is why we decided on the dual-boot system. Alas, I haven't installed XP Pro SP2 yet, so the uber-impressive FSim surround cockpit I planned to show you ain't happenin' yet. ATI's control panel needs some work in the multi-display area--it's so confusing that I wound up using the Windows version, which had the added benefit of actually working! A quick nod to Alan Stafford for suggesting that.

This next picture is of the Addonics 2.5-inch to 3.5-inch adapter. It also includes a 40-pin to 44-pin cable adapter which I won't need since the SSDs are SATA. I plan to drill two more holes so I can mount both SSDs on one adapter, leaving space in the case for the Ultra card reader/USB/FireWire front panel box. The SSDs produce hardly any heat so thermals aren't an issue.

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I mentioned previously that I thought that the BIOS flash to the Adaptec 3405 might have been responsible for the D5400Xs BIOS freeze when I tried to change the boot order. Intel said I might be running out of option ROM space, what with two graphics cards, the Marvell eSata controller and the motherboard BIOS. I sure hope this is fixed/fixable on the shipping boards (this is an alpha) as I don't want to run the Iomega UltraMax Pro external drive off of USB. Not a fate worse than taxes mind you, but not optimal by any means. Intel's been very helpful in addressing these issues. Once upon a time, the company wasn't responsive in the least. Kudos to Dan and Colin.

Tomorrow it's back to plumbing the case. Thanks to Tiger Direct for getting all this stuff sent my way in a timely fashion.

Cheers, Jon

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I ragged a bit on the Gigabyte 3D Mercury case in my first post, calling it a near thing. Actually, the case isn't a near thing at all, it's the Skulltrail D5400 motherboard that's caused the most difficulty. Not that it isn't a wonderful product, it's just something new to the consumer market with special needs. A pampered rock star if you will.

First off, it's eATX, meaning large, with only relatively few cases on the market that will accommodate it. Next there's the fact that it's socket LGA771 meaning none of Intel's mainstream LGA775 processors fit it. There's no throwing two cheapos in this thing and upgrading later. Then there are those two darn EPS12V 8-pin sockets. If you've been reading, you'll already know that it was very difficult to find a power supply that offered two leads and I've yet to spot an adapter to split a single EPS12V connector into two. You might not want to do such a thing anyway, as a single 12-volt rail might not be up to the task (though I was perfectly willing to try it!).

The D5400XS I'm using at the moment is an alpha preproduction unit from Intel though I've been assured it's virtually identical to what will hit the retail channels. Even now that I've got everything in place, I'm still trying to figure out why it's so slow to boot. It takes forever to recognize the OCZ SSDs and I'm hoping there's not a compatibility issue. Oh, well... that's why they pay me the big bucks.

Caveat: The following is meant to be illustrative of the problems one can encounter when configuring and troubleshooting with new hardware and technologies. It is most emphatically NOT a rant against any particular company. I've encounter such issues with virtually every vendor in the industry at some point. Technology is programmed by humans who make mistakes. Perhaps not as many as I make, but...
I figured the slow drive recognition was a BIOS/SATA controller issue with the SSDs that might have been spotted and solved by now so I downloaded the 2/18/2008 BIOS update from the Intel site. Unfortunately, after burning the ISO file to CD, I booted and was greeted by a prompt saying "Missing parameter in config file". Go figure. What said parameter was and why it was missing, I'll probably never know. Suffice it to say that I was not pleased.

Tried the interminable boot again, and this time I got the proper boot prompt. If only I'd pressed the key within the required 15 seconds. One more interminable boot (The drive recognition sequence is what was taking forever--hanging at the two SSD drives. Things were very quick after this section) and then the updater hung yet again at the Linux -InitDisk. There were also messages about INT13 failures. I let it sit there for quite a while and worked on this blog entry, remembering that this is where the BIOS hangs. It was trying to find a partition on the SSDs ten minutes later when I finally decided to just pull the SSDs (which are eventually recognized) and try the reboot without them attached. Pretty darn quick this time and the BIOS flash transpired without incident. When this system actually kicks into gear, it's not playing games. Well, not yet anyway. ;-)

Alas, the BIOS flash didn't solve the problem so I'm going to have to quit till Monday when the OCZ and Intel folks are available for comment. Until then.

Cheers, Jon

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