R.i.p. Netbook: Mobile Computing Evolves
Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:18 AM
Also isnt this like the third "The netbook is dead" article to come up on your site in the last year?
Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:14 AM
I doesn't matter how smart is a phone or a pad they are bounded to a carrier, application store or branded OS. So saying they have a powerful hardware may be true but at the same time they are limited.
If netbooks are dying so is the freedom of choice for the users.
Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:28 AM
Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:32 AM
Ummm...in functionality the tablet kicks ass over the netbook. Netbook = relatively slow processor running Big OS.
Tablet (ipad or xoom)= dual core, highly efficient processor running small OS.
End result for consumer is Netbook "feels" slow whereas pad feels "snappy". The processing power of a netbook would be great if it did not have a full OS that was made for superior hardware to run. Once again people spouting off specs without any real world meaning to them
Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:25 AM
Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:25 AM
Posted 04 March 2011 - 11:45 AM
You must be kidding!
Netbooks are lightweight Notebooks which are lightweight Laptops which are lightweight Desktops which are lightweight Servers... They are all real PCs.
Current smartphones and tablets hand-held devices today are something lighter than Netbooks, and are not fully functional PCs.
RIP Netbook? LMAO! Such a shortsighted and uneducated view...
Mobile Computing Evolves? When the true mobile PC arrives. In the meantime, it's basically only limited hand-held glorified toy computer devices.
First let me ask how many tablets were sold in the entire segment to date? Then compare with today's reality:
This is the number of new computers sold to date since Jan 1st 2011, and does not include handhelds.
In one single quarter of 2011, more real PCs will be sold than the entire population segment of tablets from all manufacturers combined! And you call that RIP? That number is only for 63 days into a 90 or so days/quarter...
Now at least a Netbook (or Ultra Portable) will run all standard software, Windows, Linux, and even Hackintosh, plus much, much more... It already has access to hundreds of millions of apps built over the last 20+ years. It has access to all of the Open Source efforts and developments. And it also has some level of access to smartphone / tablet development simulators through virtualization... Meaning one can run (some) apps designed for smartphones/tablets under any PC. Today!
Q.How do you think these mobile apps are developed under?
A. Real PCs via simulators and virtual machines.
You just can't compare a real mobile PC to what some neophytes call mobile computing evolution today.
Speaking of true mobile PC scope and future:
The Coffee Desk said:
With all of the recent discussion about utilizing very low-power ARM chips as an alternative to IA-32/IA-64 as a choice CPU of the rising netbook scene, Microsoft’s Windows family of operating systems is sure to find a tough time fitting in thanks in part to the long-standing Wintel relationship between Windows and the IA-32 architecture. A key design decision of the .NET framework, however, could be the saving grace for running Windows on ARM/MIPS-based netbooks.
Microsoft Windows has historically supported more than just x86: a quick look at past versions of Windows will reveal that Windows NT 3.0 – 4.0 supported not only the i386 architecture, but also MIPS, DEC Alpha and PowerPC (although Windows NT 3 did not support PowerPC until the release of version 3.51). Other ventures into the embedded market by Microsoft include the successful Windows CE line, and the lesser-known (x86-only) Windows XP Embedded operating system.
So despite a time when Windows supported many architectures, Microsoft has always been bound to the Intel architecture. However, Windows CE has been very successful in getting what can be considered a port of Microsoft’s flagship product running on alternative processor architectures as a modern product.
.NET on netbooks
If I worked for Microsoft Marketing, I would go ahead and coin the phrase “.NETbook”, and there’s a very good reason why: no matter how Microsoft plans to put Windows on ARM-based netbooks at the operating system level, if they wish to keep the platform as open to developers as they have with other embedded ports of Windows and ease their own developmental efforts, the .NET framework’s design freely permits this.
.NET was designed, like Java (and in fact based off the MSJVM code following the Sun lawsuit) to be fully abstracted, that is, able to run on any underlying platform as long as the CIL (Common Intermediate Language) JIT compiler can interpret the .NET bytecode into native processor instructions.
Whether or not .NET was designed for this as a feature or not, the option is certainly there, and stares Microsoft in the face as a means of remaining application compatible on newer and increasingly-popular IA-32 alternatives. Windows CE already support the .NET Compact Framework, a largely-compatible subset of the .NET framework for Windows CE capable of running most (but not all) precompiled .NET programs and assemblies, and the Windows CE Visual Studio package supports building applications to target the Compact Framework specifically.
What this means for developers, is that if Microsoft ports the .NET framework (or at least the .NET Compact Framework) to whatever platform they choose to deploy on ARM netbooks, then not only are existing .NET applications guarenteed to run on this new platform, but without recompilation or any other tweaks that require separate builds.
Windows Mobile already utilizes this for allowing apps to run on mobile phones, but unless a Windows Mobile deployment is intended to not be as compatible with mainstream versions of Windows, the existing .NET package for Windows mobile would require significant application changes for netbook (and, inherently, phone) compatibillity unless yet another .NET package is designed just for netbooks, although this seems very unnecessary given the options discussed here.
You do know that all toy hand-held devices of today (that includes smartphones whether Android based, or iPhone/iPod, and tablets such as iPad, iPad2 and Xoom and even WP7 phones) are running on ARM devices such as Cortex-A8, Cortex-A9 and even the Cortex-A15 all uses ARM7 assembly code?
Proof of Microsoft .NET runs ARM7 code, today:
Don't people know anything? NT was designed as a portable OS from the ground up by the Father of VMS, David Cutler of Digital Equipment Corporation and now Microsoft fame. Arguably the most sophisticated OS in the world. And yet in its simplicity, modularity, and architecture, can be lightened (aka lightweight processes) to run in embedded devices that are not x86 compatible, such as ARM and MIPS.Way back then in the 1990's. Just look at all these scanners, cash registers, ATMs or Debit Interact terminals? Or these displays in elevators? What do you think they run? Perhaps not Windows 7, but certainly some form of Windows Embedded.
Case point: Here's an ARM7 hardware and software open-source device running .NET with completely free development tools such as Visual Studio.
You want Ethernet + MicroSD with that?
Or do you want mini-dip platform that plugs into a breadboard for prototyping?
As a matter of fact, the first generation Xbox was based on a lightweight NT4 and only 64MB RAM. And the full Windows 7 Ultimate runs in as little as 96MB RAM. Most mobile processors nowadays have at least 1GB RAM to spare.
And who says Windows 7 isn't designed for touch? I'm not talking about two or three finger primitive swipes, but a full 20+ simultaneous sophisticated gestures. Free download here if you have a multi-touchscreen such as this.
I just can't stand BS and those who dispense it freely through ignorance, or worse, willful stupidity.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
There is nothing more tedious than a stupid person trying to be clever.
~ William J. Rogers, Jr.
Posted 04 March 2011 - 07:04 PM
Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:48 PM
Posted 05 March 2011 - 05:03 AM
Perhaps we are truly entering a post-literate society where people have little or no keyboarding and writing skills. In a world where the common mobile web user has no interest in actually interacting and communicating more complex thoughts with others, and the mobile internet is used solely to play silly games like angrybirds and incessantly check their facebook status, the extremely limited interface of a virtual keyboard might be sufficient.
This is NOT my world. I like to type. I like to write. I like to do it often and even while mobile. A virtual keyboard will never EVER have the kind of tactile feedback required to input text at 100WPM. Heck, you are lucky to get 15WPM hunting and pecking while staring at the keyboard and not the screen -with a net result of having your text come out looking like iBonics.
Sure, someday the guttural vernacular utterings of the unwashed illiterate neoneanderthals will be readily translated directly to text through modern voice-recognition technology. I just can't wait until all the internet discussion forums embrace the filthy sub-literate masses who will be able to finally participate. We really need their sage input. In the future all internet forumz are utoob!
Yes, the netbook with it's nearly full-sized usable keyboard is dead. Long live Angrybirds, LOLcatTwitards, and Facebook shout-outs. Idiocracy is nearly here.
Posted 05 March 2011 - 08:37 AM
Nonsense. Look at the number to the left of this post. See that post count? Virtually every post I've made on this forum was typed on an iPad. Now feel free to look back at my post history; if you want to call it illiterate, be ready to defend that accusation.
Before you declare what can or can't be done with a tablet, try actually doing it, or asking someone who has. In the meantime, keep your self-righteous witterings to yourself.
Posted 05 March 2011 - 12:48 PM
And what are your contributions to our PCWorld Community? Other than bigotry, negativity and criticism? Oh, that was it? Thanks for your feedback.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:24 AM