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Amazon's Android App Store: Steve Jobs Just Doesn't Get It

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 02:18 PM

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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 02:47 PM

More stores = more competition = great!!!
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 03:11 PM

I disagree. I'm a huge Android fan (own a Nexus One) and I like to poke fun at Apple Fanboys as much as the next guy. It just seems easier to find apps and make purchases from one source.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 03:16 PM

View PostTN77, on 17 March 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

I disagree. I'm a huge Android fan (own a Nexus One) and I like to poke fun at Apple Fanboys as much as the next guy. It just seems easier to find apps and make purchases from one source.


So then just use the one source!! That doesnt mean others shouldnt exist, tho..........thats the beauty of choice :)
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 03:51 PM

The history of retail is the movement from multi-outlets to to few-outlets to single-outlets. We used to have hundreds of little shops in every small town here in the UK selling groceries. Now most of them have been replaced by just a few supermarkets. Many products are only available from a single chain. Monsoon clothes, for example, are only available from Monsoon stores. New Mercedes-Benz are only available from Mercedes-Benz dealers. Amazon is not opening an Android store because it wants more competition. It's opening it because Amazon's own business model is to be the dominant single store on the internet.
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 04:23 PM

god bless cydia :)
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 04:27 PM

View PostStillwaterSam, on 17 March 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostTN77, on 17 March 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

I disagree. I'm a huge Android fan (own a Nexus One) and I like to poke fun at Apple Fanboys as much as the next guy. It just seems easier to find apps and make purchases from one source.


So then just use the one source!! That doesnt mean others shouldnt exist, tho..........thats the beauty of choice :)


So we're confusing things even more now. Instead of just "what app is that", now there's "where did you get that app"? There's already CHOICE of the myriad of apps out there. Multiple stores selling them? It's a problem.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 04:47 PM

I don't see why it matters if there is more than one app store...I can see only benefits, as saying where I got it from takes about a second more effort...but it also seems to me like you can spin it any way you want. It can be a "confusing problem" or it could lead to "diversified choices". Doesn't seem to me like there's any way to analyze it if it's not here. Seems like it's something that only time can tell.
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 04:59 PM

Apple have tried múltiple stores in the past with little success. Remember when they used to sell their computers at Sears? When you went in there the first thing the sales man will tell you is that the Mac was really not compatible. Also at Best Buy is very common for the salesman to steer you into an Android phone instead of the iPhone you really want without explaining the advantages of the Apple product. So Apple has learned to sell it's own products and keep all the profits for itself. I don't see anything wrong with that. If you don't like it buy someone else!
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 05:24 PM

I'm with Steve.. app stores are crappy enough things to have to browse on a mobile devices as it is, without having to browse through two or three of the damn things every time you want to install something.
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  Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:26 PM

Think at&t will let it's customers use this new app store? Or will it suffer the third party curse?
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:26 AM

View PostTN77, on 17 March 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:

So we're confusing things even more now. Instead of just "what app is that", now there's "where did you get that app"? There's already CHOICE of the myriad of apps out there. Multiple stores selling them? It's a problem.

Total baloney. As always, the market will find the best solution(s) to every dispute, forcing out the less-competitive solution(s).

Examples: AT&T will get away with preventing access to outside stores and/or apps for only so long as their users allow them to do it. Likewise, devs can experiment with limiting access to their apps - or, perhaps, apps that are limited to certain retail venues - for only so long as their (potential and extant) customers allow it.

Will the open market approach cost us something (product inconsistencies, unsatisfied demand, etc.) as the market's dust settles? Sure - always does. But that cost goes both ways, with sellers and buyers suffering (at least) equally. That's how capitalism works. And the end results will be better products and stronger competitors.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:48 AM

I think that from different choices the control moves from the manufacturers or designers to the developers and consumers. On the iphone you cant have emulators, apple dont allow them. Apple had also baned magazines that talk about android devices. I was a user and now I am a developer and the reason I am developing for android is because it allows the costumer to have control over what they want. If I have only one store I am forced to buy there and get the products they choose at the price they choose. But if am in a more open environment I can chose a different store because I prefer their price or quality or variety. But if the user may get confused by a lot of options, that person can stick with one store, but there is no reason that for the people that want more freedom to don't have the right to decide where to buy or even what to buy.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:53 AM

I believe in free market. Only one way to get all you need? An entity controlling what can be sold and what not and even censuring ideas that don't match with them? That sounds like 1984 to me.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 02:04 AM

just a thought - one market for apps controlled by Apple limits the chances of a junk/malicious app ending up on an iphone. with the market share iphones are an attractive target and I am not sure I would want to trust another app sourse......
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 02:06 AM

View PostJustaNotherguy, on 18 March 2011 - 12:26 AM, said:

View PostTN77, on 17 March 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:

So we're confusing things even more now. Instead of just "what app is that", now there's "where did you get that app"? There's already CHOICE of the myriad of apps out there. Multiple stores selling them? It's a problem.

Total baloney. As always, the market will find the best solution(s) to every dispute, forcing out the less-competitive solution(s).

Examples: AT&T will get away with preventing access to outside stores and/or apps for only so long as their users allow them to do it. Likewise, devs can experiment with limiting access to their apps - or, perhaps, apps that are limited to certain retail venues - for only so long as their (potential and extant) customers allow it.

Will the open market approach cost us something (product inconsistencies, unsatisfied demand, etc.) as the market's dust settles? Sure - always does. But that cost goes both ways, with sellers and buyers suffering (at least) equally. That's how capitalism works. And the end results will be better products and stronger competitors.


What is the better product? The apps I install are the apps I install. I have no idea what you're talking about. What solutions are currently uncompetitive? There's a market, and I find apps in it.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:33 AM

Great! I'd love to have more choice. Amazon has both expertise and experience in selling online. Hopefully, their site will be easier to use and they will filter all sorts of suspicious and potentially malicious apps better than the Market. The more choice the better. Looking forward to it.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:14 AM

It's not that SJ doesn't understand choice, he just wants to be that choice...PERIOD.

Android doesn't need to have more apps to be success, all it needs is apps people want and need.

The reality is simple, the largest retailer may have the largest selection. But that solection means nothing if you can't find what you want.

Sometimes finding that unique product is hard and in mnay cases if found at that little corner shop that you never thought would possibly have it.

Big names gain steam because they have the money to market their product in front of the small guy, that doesn't mean their product is better. Its just a bigger company.
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  Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:19 AM

Double post...sorry

This post has been edited by QUADICON: 18 March 2011 - 06:20 AM

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:27 AM

View PostTN77, on 17 March 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

I disagree. I'm a huge Android fan (own a Nexus One) and I like to poke fun at Apple Fanboys as much as the next guy. It just seems easier to find apps and make purchases from one source.

So let me ask, when you buy groceries do you only buy from one store? What about when you go out for lunch, do you eat at the same place and oreder the exact same thing everyday? What about when you buy a car, do you always buy the same brand and same model? If you are single and don't ahve a girlfriend or wife, do you spend your private time with the same significant other? Do you drink the exact same drink everyday?

People who claim one choice is better than many, when they make varied choices everyday sound so dumb. PEriod.
There is no other way to put it.

How about this, would you prefer living under a dictatorship where you are always told what to do? I mean why should we vote for a Preseident or any other elected official?

Lets just have one of everything. One airline, one train, one bus, one brand of car, one supermarket, and anything else you can think of.
Diversity exists for a reason. If you want everything to just be the same, move to Antartica...I'm sure things there don't change very much if at all.

No reasonable persoan would ever want to be where they don't have a choice. Even animals with their limited copacity to think, still prefer to choose what they eat, where they sleep and who they choose to produce with. Are you saying you want to be a mindless robot that just do what it si told? That can be arranged you know.

View PostJaredBrown, on 17 March 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

god bless cydia :)


Right on!!!!
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