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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:12 AM
yes, because heaven forbid the customer get what they want at a reasonable price if it can instead lock them into an antiquated model at a much higer price rate...
and Hollywood wonders WHY people just steal stuff from youtube?
and Hollywood wonders WHY people just steal stuff from youtube?
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:08 AM
Ummm...who cares about showtime and starz. Maybe Netflix did not throw piles of money for content that their users don't watch. As long as they keep putting on tons of content like they do. I don't care about new release shows, HBO, showtime, blah blah blah. Just want movies.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 12:07 PM
Hollywood like the phone companies have two problems. 1. The suits are too old to adjust and their young replacement too scared of immediate profit spikes to take the chance. 2. They don't have alternatives or understand the changing markets to adjust their business plans.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:20 PM
In addition to content owners trying to protect their turf, ISPs (most of whom are also cable providers) are all introducing bandwith caps and looking for other ways to recover costs associated with non-stop streaming. Despite their claims that these caps will be adjusted in the future to reflect heavier usage patterns "in the future", you can just bet that that's a crock.
Also, as much as I love it, eight dollars a month is not a sustainable business model for the type and amount of content most users expect to get, and prices will inevitably rise as Netflix will have to pay more for desirable content.
Finally, don't underestimate the political power of Hollywood and the media conglomerates in DC. It's pretty much absolute, and every law they wanted or regulation they wanted neutered has gone through like a knife through butter. Repubs and Dems alike can't bend over fast enough to please them.
The only way to fight back is with your wallet. Cancel your Starz and Showtime premiums. When caps are instituted, change your ISP (even if the cap at the new company isn't any better). And when your mobile phone company is consumed by ATT or Verizon, change your mobile provider.
In addition to content owners trying to protect their turf, ISPs (most of whom are also cable providers) are all introducing bandwith caps and looking for other ways to recover costs associated with non-stop streaming. Despite their claims that these caps will be adjusted in the future to reflect heavier usage patterns "in the future", you can just bet that that's a crock.
Also, as much as I love it, eight dollars a month is not a sustainable business model for the type and amount of content most users expect to get, and prices will inevitably rise as Netflix will have to pay more for desirable content.
Finally, don't underestimate the political power of Hollywood and the media conglomerates in DC. It's pretty much absolute, and every law they wanted or regulation they wanted neutered has gone through like a knife through butter. Repubs and Dems alike can't bend over fast enough to please them.
The only way to fight back is with your wallet. Cancel your Starz and Showtime premiums. When caps are instituted, change your ISP (even if the cap at the new company isn't any better). And when your mobile phone company is consumed by ATT or Verizon, change your mobile provider.
Also, as much as I love it, eight dollars a month is not a sustainable business model for the type and amount of content most users expect to get, and prices will inevitably rise as Netflix will have to pay more for desirable content.
Finally, don't underestimate the political power of Hollywood and the media conglomerates in DC. It's pretty much absolute, and every law they wanted or regulation they wanted neutered has gone through like a knife through butter. Repubs and Dems alike can't bend over fast enough to please them.
The only way to fight back is with your wallet. Cancel your Starz and Showtime premiums. When caps are instituted, change your ISP (even if the cap at the new company isn't any better). And when your mobile phone company is consumed by ATT or Verizon, change your mobile provider.
In addition to content owners trying to protect their turf, ISPs (most of whom are also cable providers) are all introducing bandwith caps and looking for other ways to recover costs associated with non-stop streaming. Despite their claims that these caps will be adjusted in the future to reflect heavier usage patterns "in the future", you can just bet that that's a crock.
Also, as much as I love it, eight dollars a month is not a sustainable business model for the type and amount of content most users expect to get, and prices will inevitably rise as Netflix will have to pay more for desirable content.
Finally, don't underestimate the political power of Hollywood and the media conglomerates in DC. It's pretty much absolute, and every law they wanted or regulation they wanted neutered has gone through like a knife through butter. Repubs and Dems alike can't bend over fast enough to please them.
The only way to fight back is with your wallet. Cancel your Starz and Showtime premiums. When caps are instituted, change your ISP (even if the cap at the new company isn't any better). And when your mobile phone company is consumed by ATT or Verizon, change your mobile provider.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:29 PM
Test.
Test.
Test.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:08 PM
With the Miramax deal only a few days away Netflix won't need Starz or Showtime to the extent they did before. I expect Netflix to also announce a fair number of signings from smaller studios. The big studios better wise up. Streaming is the future.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:32 PM
I love when people say that companies are not selling their services at a reasonable rate and need to change their business model. Did you ever look at the other side of the argument? Maybe they want to turn a profit at their business and have seen what has happened to the music industry. Streaming content maybe the future of media, and I suspect so, but the market will dictate if that is the case or not. You might also consider looking at your 401ks and retirement investments before bad mouthing cable and subscription services; you are probably invested in this industry at some level.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 03:43 PM
I'll just go torrent Camelot then... Problem solved and Hollywood still loses.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:19 PM
You can't beat the Internet.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:31 PM
my family streams so much video from netflix every month that i keep expecting my cable company to put a cap on the amount of data we can use per month.--hope i didnt give any ideas. i see that this current system of streaming all i want, good shows, with no commercials for super cheap cant last. so ill enjoy it while i can, and get really pissed when it changes.....ha!
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:35 PM
my family streams so much video from netflix every month that i keep expecting my cable company to put a cap on the amount of data we can use per month.--hope i didnt give any ideas. i see that this current system of streaming all i want, good shows, with no commercials for super cheap cant last. so ill enjoy it while i can, and get really pissed when it changes.....ha!
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:48 PM
Who cares? I'll pay Netflix their 8 dollars and I'll download all of Starz and Showtimes programs.
Heck, I've already downloaded all of the Spartacus episodes... Screw 'em!!!
Heck, I've already downloaded all of the Spartacus episodes... Screw 'em!!!
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:50 PM
Screw them... I'll pay Netflix and Hulu Plus their 8$ a month and download Starz and Showtime programs...
Don't want to play ball then you can kiss any revenue goodbye.
Don't want to play ball then you can kiss any revenue goodbye.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 06:02 AM
It is pretty simple. Everyone wants a slice of the pie.
Everyones idea on what they are owed is different, however.
I like the Netflix model, and I think it should continue, but these big companies trying to play cat-and-mouse by making it so that they can try to do something similar themselves.
The cable companies are the WORST with this, overcharging for their "On demand" BS. They do not want this cash kitten (I have no idea how many actually use this) to dry up, so they are willing to cap your streaming, but allow unlimited streaming of anything you pay them directly for.
Nice.
The thing I do not understand, however, are the companies reluctance to allow PAST episodes to be streamed. If anythnig, this is a freebie to the networks. They do not have to store it, stream it, or handle anything about it. Also, if they make it so that the current season is not released until the next season starts airing, they WILL get people interested in seeing it w/o having to wait 6mo/1year.
Gross miscommunication and greed here. They need to work this out or they will have lots of problems in the future with this, or a simple lack of interest and continued reduction in actual % viewership.
Everyones idea on what they are owed is different, however.
I like the Netflix model, and I think it should continue, but these big companies trying to play cat-and-mouse by making it so that they can try to do something similar themselves.
The cable companies are the WORST with this, overcharging for their "On demand" BS. They do not want this cash kitten (I have no idea how many actually use this) to dry up, so they are willing to cap your streaming, but allow unlimited streaming of anything you pay them directly for.
Nice.
The thing I do not understand, however, are the companies reluctance to allow PAST episodes to be streamed. If anythnig, this is a freebie to the networks. They do not have to store it, stream it, or handle anything about it. Also, if they make it so that the current season is not released until the next season starts airing, they WILL get people interested in seeing it w/o having to wait 6mo/1year.
Gross miscommunication and greed here. They need to work this out or they will have lots of problems in the future with this, or a simple lack of interest and continued reduction in actual % viewership.
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Posted 30 March 2011 - 04:51 AM
Time Warner Cable made a deal with Hollywood to delay DVD release dates for 30 days so TWC can sell them "On Demand". That really made me say good-bye to TWC.
Time Warner Cable made a deal with Hollywood to delay DVD release dates for 30 days so TWC can sell them "On Demand". That really made me say good-bye to TWC.
Time Warner Cable made a deal with Hollywood to delay DVD release dates for 30 days so TWC can sell them "On Demand". That really made me say good-bye to TWC.
