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[linuxrants7xpg]

It's also worth noting that the Samsung logo found on the front of the device is missing. Also, at least on my screen, the border is darkened which makes the placement of the forward facing camera almost indiscernible.

[HankRearden]

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

It's also worth noting that the Samsung logo found on the front of the device is missing. Also, at least on my screen, the border is darkened which makes the placement of the forward facing camera almost indiscernible.

Actually there is no Samsung logo on the front of the Galaxy Tab. Only on the back. The other misleading thing about this is the aspect ratio and the normal position of the tab, which is horizontal. That is the default position, in which the camera is on top, and the left and right speakers are on the left and right. The default position of the iPad is vertical. The Galaxy is also 16:10 vs. the iPad being 4:3. And of course as soon as you turn it on you see the poor design of the iPad vs the superior design of Honeycomb :-P I'd be LOLRMAO if Apple had to pay stiff damages in a reversal.

-HR

P.S., I stuck 7 people who seem to only focus on Apple stories on ignore. So if you collectively wish to have heart attacks over my choice of words think of Bender in Futurama and recall his statement, bite my shiny metal blank blank blank.

This post has been edited by HankRearden: 15 August 2011 - 08:33 AM

[linuxrants7xpg]

HankRearden, on 15 August 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

It's also worth noting that the Samsung logo found on the front of the device is missing.

Actually there is no Samsung logo on the front of the Galaxy Tab. Only on the back.

Hm, that's interesting. I just did a quick Google search, and it looks like you're right. I don't have a Galaxy Tab (though this kerfuffle with Apple has definitely made me tempted to buy one) so I don't have one for reference, but there is a Samsung logo on the front in the image from the article. Maybe it's a variation between American and European versions of the Tab?

This post has been edited by linuxrants7xpg: 15 August 2011 - 09:07 AM

[HankRearden]

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 09:05 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 August 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

It's also worth noting that the Samsung logo found on the front of the device is missing.

Actually there is no Samsung logo on the front of the Galaxy Tab. Only on the back.

Hm, that's interesting. I don't have a Galaxy Tab (though this kerfuffle with Apple has definitely made me tempted to buy one) so I don't have one for reference, but there's a Samsung logo on the front in the image from the article. Maybe it's a variation between American and European versions of the Tab?

No idea. I own the American version from Verizon Wireless. You could check one out pretty much anywhere. Verizon has the iPad, Galaxy Tab and Motorola Xoom on the same wall all side by side. You can check them all out there.

[sickpup]

The only similarities I see is that it contains a black border. Galaxy has 4 buttons, a Samsung logo, and an obvious front facing camera. The iPad is smaller and has only one button. Unless Apple owns the patent on black borders I don't see how this case is even relavant and Apple should be ordered to pay for all the wasted time of the courts and any damages caused to Samsung.

[unbound]

"...perhaps inadvertently..."

Thanx much for the laugh.

And how, exactly, would Apple get a picture that is wrong in several different ways? Which magically looks a whole lot *more* like an iPad?

If you believe this was accidental by Apple, I have some nice bridges for sale in the midwest...

[halofaller]

Why didn't Samsung, knowing Apple would get stupid about this, simply take one corner, cut it at an angle (cut corner would indictae potrait mode, display up) and be done with it? First, it would have distinguished it from the iPad much better and it would have looked better to boot.

[HankRearden]

sickpup, on 15 August 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only similarities I see is that it contains a black border. Galaxy has 4 buttons, a Samsung logo, and an obvious front facing camera. The iPad is smaller and has only one button. Unless Apple owns the patent on black borders I don't see how this case is even relavant and Apple should be ordered to pay for all the wasted time of the courts and any damages caused to Samsung.

Yeah, next Apple will go after those electronic picture frame companies. Those look exactly like iPads. And you know, my 45" Samsung TV looks exactly like an iPad. I mean, you can't tell them apart. People walk into my living room all the time and start touching the screen and then panic when the iPad doesn't work. I'm going to put a sign on the TV explaining that it isn't an iPad. Just so there is no confusion, cause my TV is basically black, with black borders so of course, it's really an iPad clone stealing Apple's ingenious intellectual property. Before that, all TVs where the shape of triangles. I tell you... These TV makers really need to respect Apple for coming up with that invention called "The Right Angle". It's a winner.

Come to think of it, you know my living room windows look a lot like iPads in the dark. My Microwave oven also infringes I think. The oven door is rectangular and has black borders. Gosh Samsung really went to town on Apple's carefully thought out IP.

You know, if I lay on the floor, and I look at my refrigerator door, from Samsung, it's clear they stole that design from the iPad as well. And the door to my office, it's tinted glass with a bezel too. My Nexus S phone is all black as well, with, wait for it....wait for it..... GLASS with the black bezel. That's why people keep asking me why my iPad is so small. I understand now. It's because Samsung made my Nexus S phone and everyone knows Apple invented the right angle and the rectangular shape.

[HankRearden]

unbound, on 15 August 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

"...perhaps inadvertently..."

Thanx much for the laugh.

And how, exactly, would Apple get a picture that is wrong in several different ways? Which magically looks a whole lot *more* like an iPad?

If you believe this was accidental by Apple, I have some nice bridges for sale in the midwest...

You can sell them your bridge after I sell them my beachfront property on the moon. The one-third G ocean waves are beautiful in the summer. Heck they practically float in the cool crisp moon air. And of course, you have that stunning view of Earth from your living room window, which looks like an iPad.

[jibaro17]

Apple does not owns a patent pertaining shape of an object, if that was the case PC manufacturers will be suing each other over the shapes of desktops, laptops, monitors, etc.

[linuxrants7xpg]

HankRearden, on 15 August 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

sickpup, on 15 August 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only similarities I see is that it contains a black border. Galaxy has 4 buttons, a Samsung logo, and an obvious front facing camera. The iPad is smaller and has only one button. Unless Apple owns the patent on black borders I don't see how this case is even relavant and Apple should be ordered to pay for all the wasted time of the courts and any damages caused to Samsung.

Yeah, next Apple will go after those electronic picture frame companies. Those look exactly like iPads. And you know, my 45" Samsung TV looks exactly like an iPad. I mean, you can't tell them apart. People walk into my living room all the time and start touching the screen and then panic when the iPad doesn't work. I'm going to put a sign on the TV explaining that it isn't an iPad. Just so there is no confusion, cause my TV is basically black, with black borders so of course, it's really an iPad clone stealing Apple's ingenious intellectual property. Before that, all TVs where the shape of triangles. I tell you... These TV makers really need to respect Apple for coming up with that invention called "The Right Angle". It's a winner.

Come to think of it, you know my living room windows look a lot like iPads in the dark. My Microwave oven also infringes I think. The oven door is rectangular and has black borders. Gosh Samsung really went to town on Apple's carefully thought out IP.

You know, if I lay on the floor, and I look at my refrigerator door, from Samsung, it's clear they stole that design from the iPad as well. And the door to my office, it's tinted glass with a bezel too. My Nexus S phone is all black as well, with, wait for it....wait for it..... GLASS with the black bezel. That's why people keep asking me why my iPad is so small. I understand now. It's because Samsung made my Nexus S phone and everyone knows Apple invented the right angle and the rectangular shape.

Of course, Apple wasn't the first to use that shape for a tablet anyway.

http://linuxrants.co...d-vs-tc1100.png

[HankRearden]

halofaller, on 15 August 2011 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why didn't Samsung, knowing Apple would get stupid about this, simply take one corner, cut it at an angle (cut corner would indictae potrait mode, display up) and be done with it? First, it would have distinguished it from the iPad much better and it would have looked better to boot.

Did Barns & Nobel do that. They likely invented that design and now have a 14 year patent on it. So we better patent a circle cut out from the left corner, and as a preemptive strike, maybe a triangle too. These significant intelectual patents could be worth billions to Microsoft.

[HankRearden]

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 August 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

sickpup, on 15 August 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only similarities I see is that it contains a black border. Galaxy has 4 buttons, a Samsung logo, and an obvious front facing camera. The iPad is smaller and has only one button. Unless Apple owns the patent on black borders I don't see how this case is even relavant and Apple should be ordered to pay for all the wasted time of the courts and any damages caused to Samsung.

Yeah, next Apple will go after those electronic picture frame companies. Those look exactly like iPads. And you know, my 45" Samsung TV looks exactly like an iPad. I mean, you can't tell them apart. People walk into my living room all the time and start touching the screen and then panic when the iPad doesn't work. I'm going to put a sign on the TV explaining that it isn't an iPad. Just so there is no confusion, cause my TV is basically black, with black borders so of course, it's really an iPad clone stealing Apple's ingenious intellectual property. Before that, all TVs where the shape of triangles. I tell you... These TV makers really need to respect Apple for coming up with that invention called "The Right Angle". It's a winner.

Come to think of it, you know my living room windows look a lot like iPads in the dark. My Microwave oven also infringes I think. The oven door is rectangular and has black borders. Gosh Samsung really went to town on Apple's carefully thought out IP.

You know, if I lay on the floor, and I look at my refrigerator door, from Samsung, it's clear they stole that design from the iPad as well. And the door to my office, it's tinted glass with a bezel too. My Nexus S phone is all black as well, with, wait for it....wait for it..... GLASS with the black bezel. That's why people keep asking me why my iPad is so small. I understand now. It's because Samsung made my Nexus S phone and everyone knows Apple invented the right angle and the rectangular shape.

Of course, Apple wasn't the first to use that shape for a tablet anyway.

http://linuxrants.co...d-vs-tc1100.png

Oh no Linux guy. You're wrong about that. You have to be wrong about that. I know, cause your screen name starts with Linux. I bet you just drew that to confuse all the extremely intelligent folks that come to these forums with such obvious lies. I recommend we throw you into a pool of water, not a rectangular one of course, and see if you float or not. We'll get to the bottom of these ridiculous accusations you speak. By golly, next you'll tell us the world is round and isn't the center of everything. HA!

This post has been edited by HankRearden: 15 August 2011 - 09:35 AM

[ArturoFernandezqdt6]

sickpup, on 15 August 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only similarities I see is that it contains a black border. Galaxy has 4 buttons, a Samsung logo, and an obvious front facing camera. The iPad is smaller and has only one button. Unless Apple owns the patent on black borders I don't see how this case is even relavant and Apple should be ordered to pay for all the wasted time of the courts and any damages caused to Samsung.

My thoughts exactly. Next thing you know, they'll be suing for the manufacture of tablets. Remind, me to never get in trouble in Germany seems like their court system is probably the most likely to get paid off.

[mattwruavn]

This article is very misleading. If you look at Apple's filing these two photos are part of a series of 6. The first four clearly demonstrate the difference in aspect ratio.

Take this along with the text and you will see these last two were to demonstrate the similarity in icon layout. Anyone who believes this is enough to overturn the judges decision is just goofy.

This story is just irresponsible. You say "at least one" when you know for a fact that is the only one of a dozen photographs that does not accurately depict the aspect ratio.

[linuxrants7xpg]

mattwruavn, on 15 August 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

This article is very misleading. If you look at Apple's filing these two photos are part of a series of 6. The first four clearly demonstrate the difference in aspect ratio.

Take this along with the text and you will see these last two were to demonstrate the similarity in icon layout. Anyone who believes this is enough to overturn the judges decision is just goofy.

Last I checked, Apple didn't own the concept of a grid. Icons have had this layout since before Apple had a GUI based OS. That's just a fact.

[HankRearden]

mattwruavn, on 15 August 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

This article is very misleading. If you look at Apple's filing these two photos are part of a series of 6. The first four clearly demonstrate the difference in aspect ratio.

Take this along with the text and you will see these last two were to demonstrate the similarity in icon layout. Anyone who believes this is enough to overturn the judges decision is just goofy.

This story is just irresponsible. You say "at least one" when you know for a fact that is the only one of a dozen photographs that does not accurately depict the aspect ratio.

Are you saying a writer of this site is not stating all the facts up front in an article they published here??? Surely that could never happen here. This is PCWorld after all.

This post has been edited by HankRearden: 15 August 2011 - 09:53 AM

[Razor91869]

And there burst the barrels of explosive gasoline. We have a flame war here.

[HankRearden]

linuxrants7xpg, on 15 August 2011 - 09:52 AM, said:

mattwruavn, on 15 August 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

This article is very misleading. If you look at Apple's filing these two photos are part of a series of 6. The first four clearly demonstrate the difference in aspect ratio.

Take this along with the text and you will see these last two were to demonstrate the similarity in icon layout. Anyone who believes this is enough to overturn the judges decision is just goofy.

Last I checked, Apple didn't own the concept of a grid. Icons have had this layout since before Apple had a GUI based OS. That's just a fact.

Why that's just silly Linux guy. Apple invented that right before the invented the right angle.

Do you have proof otherwise? I'd like to see proof, notarized and it will have to be stamped by a judge to prove it's real. If you didn't bring that proof with you then we all know you just made this up.

This post has been edited by HankRearden: 15 August 2011 - 09:58 AM