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Is Cloud-based Backup Safe?
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Yoni 
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:57 AM
Online backups is not an effective solution for almost anybody. There is a huge marketing engine behind this "online everything" and for the most part it is impractical at its best. Pretend you have just 100GB worth of data to backup. How long will it take you to download your backup? In critical times such as a recovery from a failure it's been proven that online backups will never be the answer to those critical moments. From my personal experience in the field one of our business customer decided to cut off the online backup solution when they were down for 2 days while waiting for the backup to complete downloading in order to restore critical business data. With all an all, it is a backup! You need to have it handy when the time comes!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:09 AM
Yoni, I could not agree more.
I really can not understand all these Internet services.
or the new way to call is CLOUD lol
but our internet connections are probably a decade away from being able to actually handle the bandwidth we need for such services.
Funny thing is that so many ISPs now have Caps, bandwidth consumption limits.
It's kind of like walking into a dealership and the sales person says buy this car it goes 200 miles per hour yet out roads have a posted limit of 60.
What's the point!
I really can not understand all these Internet services.
or the new way to call is CLOUD lol
but our internet connections are probably a decade away from being able to actually handle the bandwidth we need for such services.
Funny thing is that so many ISPs now have Caps, bandwidth consumption limits.
It's kind of like walking into a dealership and the sales person says buy this car it goes 200 miles per hour yet out roads have a posted limit of 60.
What's the point!
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:49 AM
Yoni, on 22 August 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:
Online backups is not an effective solution for almost anybody. There is a huge marketing engine behind this "online everything" and for the most part it is impractical at its best. Pretend you have just 100GB worth of data to backup. How long will it take you to download your backup? In critical times such as a recovery from a failure it's been proven that online backups will never be the answer to those critical moments. From my personal experience in the field one of our business customer decided to cut off the online backup solution when they were down for 2 days while waiting for the backup to complete downloading in order to restore critical business data. With all an all, it is a backup! You need to have it handy when the time comes!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
You are right, not practical when you have huge data.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:51 AM
fishcake, on 25 August 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:
Yoni, on 22 August 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:
Online backups is not an effective solution for almost anybody. There is a huge marketing engine behind this "online everything" and for the most part it is impractical at its best. Pretend you have just 100GB worth of data to backup. How long will it take you to download your backup? In critical times such as a recovery from a failure it's been proven that online backups will never be the answer to those critical moments. From my personal experience in the field one of our business customer decided to cut off the online backup solution when they were down for 2 days while waiting for the backup to complete downloading in order to restore critical business data. With all an all, it is a backup! You need to have it handy when the time comes!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
Stop saturating your home or business pipes with those backups. It will take you just a one-time failure to realize that you have been throwing your money away!
You are right, not practical when you have huge data.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:39 AM
In contrast to paragraph 3 of the article, I would assert that your data IS virtually 100% safe from hackers on your hard drive or local backup, IF you dedicate the workstation to that data and don't interface the computer with the internet.
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Posted 30 August 2011 - 08:13 PM
For personal data, online backup makes sense. I have 3 sets of data on (1) computer drive, (2) external backup drive and (3) online. Prior to #3, I periodically swap external drives between home and bank safe deposit box. Online saves me time, effort and gas.
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Posted 30 August 2011 - 09:53 PM
Another thing that people on the east coast are discovering to their woe, is that long after the power comes back on... the internet doesn't. So not only is your restore super-slow, compared to digging a two terabyte drive out of your go-bag, but you can't even BEGIN recovery until their internet connection is restored.
How's this for 'secure'? External backup drive... OFF AND UNPLUGGED when not backing up. Pretty tricky to get at that from online. Impossible without some kind of 'magic'. I'm sure 'Twilight Sparkle' could wave her unicorn horn around and get at the data, but no human could, short of physical access to the backup media.
And be real, EVERYONE has 'massive' data to backup. Your iTunes, your photo library, whatever videos and whatnot you may have. Pretty big data that adds up fast.
Another thing your data is not secure from on 'the cloud'... a search warrant. Or other court order. Let alone disgruntled/bored employees, left alone with the servers.
Say you back up your MP3 collection online. And (gasp!) it contains downloaded MP3s from (double-gasp!) pirates! Even worse, some of those 'pirates' actually were copyright trolls who digitally signed those MP3 files in unique ways that let them know just where the MP3s came from (themselves, or the poisoned subset of a torrent you participated in).
Now, the legal, binding court order says, "Let this copyright lawsuit troll rifle the MP3 files of your customers, or they add YOU to the lawsuit list, and instantly put you out of business."
Joe Bob's super-cloud-based backup-o-rama isn't all that well capitalized. They don't have a legal team ready to deal with all of that. So they just roll over.
Guess what? Now copyright trolls have your name, logged IP address, and copies of all the 'pirated' data you have. Proof that you have ill-gotten copyrighted materials that will cost you thousands of dollars. Or they don't, and you've lost all your data, because Joe Bob's super-cloud-based backup-o-rama has an injunction against it that unplugs all their servers the very next day.
So you don't have MP3 files? What about baby pictures? Hell, I'm a child of the 1960's. There are nekked pictures of me. Nekked pictures of almost everyone as kids. So let's say among your photographs that you backed up... GASP! Naked pictures of your kids, or your cousins, or even YOU when YOU were a kid! There it is! On a SERVER! CHILD PORN!!!! What something that stupid couldn't possibly happen? Look at the republican nominees and say that again, out loud.
How's this for 'secure'? External backup drive... OFF AND UNPLUGGED when not backing up. Pretty tricky to get at that from online. Impossible without some kind of 'magic'. I'm sure 'Twilight Sparkle' could wave her unicorn horn around and get at the data, but no human could, short of physical access to the backup media.
And be real, EVERYONE has 'massive' data to backup. Your iTunes, your photo library, whatever videos and whatnot you may have. Pretty big data that adds up fast.
Another thing your data is not secure from on 'the cloud'... a search warrant. Or other court order. Let alone disgruntled/bored employees, left alone with the servers.
Say you back up your MP3 collection online. And (gasp!) it contains downloaded MP3s from (double-gasp!) pirates! Even worse, some of those 'pirates' actually were copyright trolls who digitally signed those MP3 files in unique ways that let them know just where the MP3s came from (themselves, or the poisoned subset of a torrent you participated in).
Now, the legal, binding court order says, "Let this copyright lawsuit troll rifle the MP3 files of your customers, or they add YOU to the lawsuit list, and instantly put you out of business."
Joe Bob's super-cloud-based backup-o-rama isn't all that well capitalized. They don't have a legal team ready to deal with all of that. So they just roll over.
Guess what? Now copyright trolls have your name, logged IP address, and copies of all the 'pirated' data you have. Proof that you have ill-gotten copyrighted materials that will cost you thousands of dollars. Or they don't, and you've lost all your data, because Joe Bob's super-cloud-based backup-o-rama has an injunction against it that unplugs all their servers the very next day.
So you don't have MP3 files? What about baby pictures? Hell, I'm a child of the 1960's. There are nekked pictures of me. Nekked pictures of almost everyone as kids. So let's say among your photographs that you backed up... GASP! Naked pictures of your kids, or your cousins, or even YOU when YOU were a kid! There it is! On a SERVER! CHILD PORN!!!! What something that stupid couldn't possibly happen? Look at the republican nominees and say that again, out loud.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:16 AM
Good post.... Thanks for sharing... Very useful for me I will bookmark this for my future needs. I was looking for some data protection software and found folder lock. I was surprised when I came to know that it also offers free online backup with fast and secure encryption. Can anyone recommend me any other software like this?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:31 AM
I don’t think there is anything wrong with cloud based backups. I have been using cloud based backups for more than two years. I prefer this type of backup because…
1 :- It is better to have back up instead of depending on a hard drive.
2 :- Each and every back up takes some time when you need your data.
3 :- Technical point of view, cloud based computing is a huge success. Social networks are main example of it.
Millions of people are getting benefit of cloud based computing by using face book, linkedin, twitter etc.
1 :- It is better to have back up instead of depending on a hard drive.
2 :- Each and every back up takes some time when you need your data.
3 :- Technical point of view, cloud based computing is a huge success. Social networks are main example of it.
Millions of people are getting benefit of cloud based computing by using face book, linkedin, twitter etc.
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