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What about those laptop users who need to do serious work with mouse and keyboard? MS seems to be treating them as second-class users, in that the "Metro" interface is supposedly going to be the default choice. Not nice. Long live Windows-7 and XP.

TsarNikky, on 14 September 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

They kept the whole Windows 7 desktop intact and added a bunch of new advanced features on top. All the old Windows applications still work. You really have nothing to complain about. If you want to miss out on all the exciting new apps being created for Metro UI then you can do that.

If you're still using XP 10 years after it's release then chances are you weren't going to upgrade to Windows 8 no matter what Microsoft did. Just don't complain as you're increasingly cut off from being able to use new Windows applications.

This post has been edited by WaterEarthFirejtwn: 14 September 2011 - 06:26 PM

Windows 8 is all about interface. If there is one thing you can notice, it's the striking metro UI all over. And the neat organization.



However tablet interface interferes with non-touch desktop interface. In a way desktop interface is almost harder to use initially atleast. Theres a quite a bit of learning curve for regular pc user.



For a tablet user its pretty intuitive.



I wonder since its a preview, they released both the tablet and desktop interface together as opposed to 2 separate builds

TsarNikky, on 14 September 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

Every user who do serious work with keyboard and any pointing device will still do it on Microsoft Windows 8. Give Metro a chance. New interface, new ways to do the same, maybe better ways. You see MS Windows 8 treating us as second-class citizens. I see MS Windows 8 bringing tablet users to the first-class citizen condition. I see tablet users doing serious work with touchscreens the same way we do serious work with keyboard and trackpad. Don't misunderstand me: I use and like MS Windows 7 very much. Best Microsoft operating system ever. But things must evolve and I guess MS is going the right way with MS Windows 8.

leonardobarba, on 15 September 2011 - 09:09 AM, said:

Exactly. Kind of annoying to still see people saying "I'm sticking with Windows XP 100 years from now, I'm not upgrading evarrr!!" The touchpad gesture upgrades were long overdue. I've been griping about cruddy two-finger scroll and limited gesture functionality. We need to be able to use 3 and 4-finger gestures to improve productivity the way OSX allows a 4-finger swipe to bring up an Exposelike feature in Windows.

This post has been edited by zeth006: 17 September 2011 - 12:41 AM

TsarNikky, on 14 September 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

Don't worry, Windows 8 is über Windows 7 including the full Aero mouse & keyboard GUI plus the new Metro TUI simultaneously, and then some.

While XP is venerable and stable, it is time to retire it IMHO. Don't misunderstand me, I like and respect XP. In light of what's available now however, it appears a bit long-in-the-tooth and somewhat functionally restricted?

If you insist on Windows XP, then you can always use the virtualized XP mode in Windows 7, which should also work in Windows 8 (I have not tested it yet).

The beauty of a true full native 64-bit OS is that it is much more efficient in terms of leveraging the full hardware CPU capabilities, which by now are practically all 64-bit to start with, whether from Intel x86 or AMD x64. By pragmatic, I mean, try to buy a new PC system with a 32-bit CPU nowadays?

It is important to mention that ARM processors does NOT have 64-bit processor architecture yet. The A-15 ARM 32-bit quad-core is due sometimes in 2013, although some vendors such as Nvidia and Texas Instruments already have demonstrated their quad-core 32-bit SOC. The Tegra and OMAP5 chips.

Nvidia shows tablet running quad-core Tegra chip

Searching for quad core tablet reveals:
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Also our friend waldojim confirms:

waldojim, on 17 September 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:

And legacy implies mouse & keyboard implicitly in addition to simultaneous touch user interface via the Metro TUI.

No worries, Microsoft has all of us covered, by offering the public the widest range of choices and options as well as the widest ecosystem of software available, ironically putting a definite end to this Post PC Era marketing nonsense. Now tablets will be PCs as well, enjoying all the benefits of the real PC in a different mobility form factor. Including standard USB, file system, and user interchangeable flash memory cards. And it's only starting. While power users who appreciated the keyboard and mouse can continue to evolve with more functionality and increased performance. And as a bonus to all, things are going to cost less, while being vastly superior! Long live competition!

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