[BLuRR]

Hello everybody! I have been really busy lately with the shuffle of life and things happening, so I have just been reading more than commenting on forums. I had a post some time ago about a build, and that has really evolved since then, I would like to post the new list (see bottom) so people can take a look at where I am at, and scold me if I messed up! The biggest change is I shifted from Intel to AMD. (Reason for change is budget, I am looking to spend under 1000, sitting comfortably at $930 right now before S/H)

Anyways, my main point of this post is that #1 game to play on PC was to be Diablo3, but today was a big-time downer as they confirmed D3 pushed back to 2012. I am still going to make the build, just going to take my time and buy/build it a lot later than I thought...sometime in October before the Holidays, hopefully.

Can you guys please suggest me some games to play on PC that are worthwhile? Here is a list of same games I am interested in, feel free to throw more at me: Starcraft2, Crysis2, L4D2, MW2 & MW3, Torchlight I & II, Portal 2 and Steam has a lot of good random games like TF2 and Bastien. I really have no game preference, I like a variety of games, just that I don't like the time RPGs ask you to commit (like WoW, Final Fantasy & Blue Dragon to name the last few I played) Thank you!

Updated Build 9/23/11:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
ASUS M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
(Planning on buying another for SLI, maybe, I have heard SLI is problematic)
Non SLI = CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance
If I go SLI = COUGAR CMX 1000 COUGAR-1000CMX 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Modular Power Supply
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM
ASUS Bulk DVD Burner
Microsoft Windows 7
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Artic Silver 5

[coastie65]

BLuRR, on 23 September 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

Hello everybody! I have been really busy lately with the shuffle of life and things happening, so I have just been reading more than commenting on forums. I had a post some time ago about a build, and that has really evolved since then, I would like to post the new list (see bottom) so people can take a look at where I am at, and scold me if I messed up! The biggest change is I shifted from Intel to AMD. (Reason for change is budget, I am looking to spend under 1000, sitting comfortably at $930 right now before S/H)

Anyways, my main point of this post is that #1 game to play on PC was to be Diablo3, but today was a big-time downer as they confirmed D3 pushed back to 2012. I am still going to make the build, just going to take my time and buy/build it a lot later than I thought...sometime in October before the Holidays, hopefully.

Can you guys please suggest me some games to play on PC that are worthwhile? Here is a list of same games I am interested in, feel free to throw more at me: Starcraft2, Crysis2, L4D2, MW2 & MW3, Torchlight I & II, Portal 2 and Steam has a lot of good random games like TF2 and Bastien. I really have no game preference, I like a variety of games, just that I don't like the time RPGs ask you to commit (like WoW, Final Fantasy & Blue Dragon to name the last few I played) Thank you!

Updated Build 9/23/11:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
ASUS M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
(Planning on buying another for SLI, maybe, I have heard SLI is problematic)
Non SLI = CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance
If I go SLI = COUGAR CMX 1000 COUGAR-1000CMX 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Modular Power Supply
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM
ASUS Bulk DVD Burner
Microsoft Windows 7
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Artic Silver 5

Hey BLuRR, Nothing wrong with that build, looks like a good package. As for the PSU, the Corsair 750w will be fine for sli / crossfire or you could bump it to an 850w if you would like a little more headroom. I am not familiar with the cougar so thus would tend to shy away from it. As for games, You might try Deus Ex: Human Revolution or Mass Effect ( these are older but good; ME3 is not due out until next year, I think ).

[BLuRR]

Thanks very much Coastie. Well the MSI Cyclone asks for 450 watts so if I go SLI I am gunna need quite a beast of a power supply. Right now though, I am thinking of just sticking with the 750 and upgrading my card in the future (maybe to a EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti)

I think that Deus Ex looks really solid, and Mass Effect I forgot about that, might have to look into it heard great things.

What sort of games does the community around here like? Is there a game you guys are all playing that I could look into? Too bad WoW is charged monthly, that would be fun to play with friends.

[coastie65]

BLuRR, on 24 September 2011 - 08:58 AM, said:

Thanks very much Coastie. Well the MSI Cyclone asks for 450 watts so if I go SLI I am gunna need quite a beast of a power supply. Right now though, I am thinking of just sticking with the 750 and upgrading my card in the future (maybe to a EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti)

I think that Deus Ex looks really solid, and Mass Effect I forgot about that, might have to look into it heard great things.

What sort of games does the community around here like? Is there a game you guys are all playing that I could look into? Too bad WoW is charged monthly, that would be fun to play with friends.

I primarily play RPG's like Fallout 3. The Witcher, The Witcher 2, and such. I don't mind the length of them to much as I will play for a couple of hours ( maybe ) then check the forums or something. Takes me a lot longer to get through them than others, as I don't spend a lot of time in them. In the Winter, I will spend a bot more time as the yard works is done and it is too cold or the weather too bad to do anything outside anyway. I have yet to finish Oblivion and I got that thing at release ( I am close to the end though ). That 750 Corsair has some 63a on the +12v rails and do fine for most cards in sli / crossfire. The 850 had 72a on the +12v Rails. It is not so much about the overall wattage of the PSU, except for the minimum, but more about what you have on the rails.

This post has been edited by coastie65: 24 September 2011 - 11:03 AM

[LiveBrianD]

Dang you missed this: http://www.maximumpc...u_have_act_fast It's quite an interesting game, I must say.
I have Need for speed carbon, NFS world (FREE!!!!), and I'm looking into buying Dirt3.

Also, I've never heard of Cougar PSUs. Stick with the Corsair, or Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling, or Antec. Read this: http://www.tomshardw...upply,2862.html

[BLuRR]

Oh snap! Don't want that to blow up on me haha. Actually a buddy suggested SLI but #1 I am still green so not really excited to try it #2 Would rather have one nice graphics card.

Free Portal, dangit. First thing on my build getting on Steam! They have amazing deals and fun games. I will be heavily on Starcraft2 and probably now with the D3 delay I'll be on MW3.

[LiveBrianD]

BLuRR, on 24 September 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Oh snap! Don't want that to blow up on me haha. Actually a buddy suggested SLI but #1 I am still green so not really excited to try it #2 Would rather have one nice graphics card.

Free Portal, dangit. First thing on my build getting on Steam! They have amazing deals and fun games. I will be heavily on Starcraft2 and probably now with the D3 delay I'll be on MW3.

Waldojim mentioned that with 2 gpus (dual 5770s, though one died), you gain about 40% more performance. Also, each PCI-E slot is limited to a 8x bandwidth, not the usual 16x, though gpus don't saturate the 8x one anyway. You are best off buying a single powerful card rather than 2 cheap ones. btw, I have a 520w Seasonic PSU, and that's enough to run most single mid-range graphics cards. 40A on the 12V rail.

[BLuRR]

Did not know that. That is very useful info! I'll stick with 1 for now.

I'm still not sure how much power I need, I am thinking of saving some cash and going with a 600w builder series.

[LiveBrianD]

BLuRR, on 24 September 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

Did not know that. That is very useful info! I'll stick with 1 for now.

I'm still not sure how much power I need, I am thinking of saving some cash and going with a 600w builder series.

Nvidia says that for a 560ti you need at least 500W. I would go for 600W if you're going for gpus like that, just to have a little upgrade headroom.

[coastie65]

Well I bought the retail disk of Deus Ex : Human Revolution, and when I installed it, it went through Steam ( Just LIke Fallout: New Vegas; now two in my Library ). I want my games without third party intervention.

[LiveBrianD]

coastie65, on 24 September 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well I bought the retail disk of Deus Ex : Human Revolution, and when I installed it, it went through Steam ( Just LIke Fallout: New Vegas; now two in my Library ). I want my games without third party intervention.

Steam isn't all that bad. I'm OK with it if it means that I don't need the disc to use the game (without messing with cracks and such), and I can redownload it if needed. (better than having to keep using the physical media)

[coastie65]

LiveBrianD, on 24 September 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

coastie65, on 24 September 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well I bought the retail disk of Deus Ex : Human Revolution, and when I installed it, it went through Steam ( Just LIke Fallout: New Vegas; now two in my Library ). I want my games without third party intervention.

Steam isn't all that bad. I'm OK with it if it means that I don't need the disc to use the game (without messing with cracks and such), and I can redownload it if needed. (better than having to keep using the physical media)

Well, You certainly don't have to have the disk in there in order to play, but you don't have to with the The Witcher or The Witcher 2 either, as the company ( CD Projekt Red ) released a patch that eliminated the need.

This post has been edited by coastie65: 25 September 2011 - 04:18 PM

[slyshoe]

as an extremely long time diablo and diablo 2 player i have grown increasingly disenchanted with blizzard's tactics regarding d3's release. liking diablo on facebook for a chance to enter beta was the thing that really set me off. i have waited a long long time for this game and feel i have been more then patient. the least they could do was offer me a key.

[BLuRR]

slyshoe, on 08 December 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

as an extremely long time diablo and diablo 2 player i have grown increasingly disenchanted with blizzard's tactics regarding d3's release. liking diablo on facebook for a chance to enter beta was the thing that really set me off. i have waited a long long time for this game and feel i have been more then patient. the least they could do was offer me a key.

All pre orders should come with a beta key, at least pre orders on the collectors edition. Video games is polotics anymore, just gotta wait and see. Unfortunately I also thought they would release it this December. I think it is worth waiting for. Not the first time this has happened from Blizzard either.

[TechnoMarino]

Does anyone know if I could upgrade my graphics card for my Macbook Pro?

[smax013]

TechnoMarino, on 02 August 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Does anyone know if I could upgrade my graphics card for my Macbook Pro?

Other than buying a new MacBook Pro, there is no way that I know of you upgrade the graphics.

[waldojim]

TechnoMarino, on 02 August 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Does anyone know if I could upgrade my graphics card for my Macbook Pro?

There is no way to upgrade it, but there are tricks to use external video cards. Question, which MBP do you have?