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[DebbieTT]

> iPhone 5 MIA

How can something be "missing in action" when it doesn't even have a release date yet?

Don't you mean: "PcWorld incorrectly thinks it would/should/could be released in Sept... but they were wrong"?

The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple. It has NOTHING to do with "but PcWorld wants it to be released sooner than it could possibly be released".

[bmeansdfw]

DebbieTT, on 26 September 2011 - 06:27 AM, said:

> iPhone 5 MIA

How can something be "missing in action" when it doesn't even have a release date yet?

Don't you mean: "PcWorld incorrectly thinks it would/should/could be released in Sept... but they were wrong"?

The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple. It has NOTHING to do with "but PcWorld wants it to be released sooner than it could possibly be released".

Hi, my name is Debbie. Anytime anyone criticizes Apple for anything, I post a message, criticizing them for criticizing Apple, because Apple can do no wrong, because Steve Jobs is a god to me.

Long live Apple. All hail Steve.

[stenniz]

bmeansdfw, on 26 September 2011 - 06:32 AM, said:

DebbieTT, on 26 September 2011 - 06:27 AM, said:

> iPhone 5 MIA

How can something be "missing in action" when it doesn't even have a release date yet?

Don't you mean: "PcWorld incorrectly thinks it would/should/could be released in Sept... but they were wrong"?

The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple. It has NOTHING to do with "but PcWorld wants it to be released sooner than it could possibly be released".

Hi, my name is Debbie. Anytime anyone criticizes Apple for anything, I post a message, criticizing them for criticizing Apple, because Apple can do no wrong, because Steve Jobs is a god to me.

Long live Apple. All hail Steve.

[wvu212]

bmeansdfw, on 26 September 2011 - 06:32 AM, said:

DebbieTT, on 26 September 2011 - 06:27 AM, said:

> iPhone 5 MIA

How can something be "missing in action" when it doesn't even have a release date yet?

Don't you mean: "PcWorld incorrectly thinks it would/should/could be released in Sept... but they were wrong"?

The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple. It has NOTHING to do with "but PcWorld wants it to be released sooner than it could possibly be released".

Hi, my name is Debbie. Anytime anyone criticizes Apple for anything, I post a message, criticizing them for criticizing Apple, because Apple can do no wrong, because Steve Jobs is a god to me.

Long live Apple. All hail Steve.

How can Apple even be criticized for not releasing according to what techblogs dictate?

[CannibalCat]

My friend got an i9100 and is totally in love with it. He tossed his iPhone4 to his wife and says he's never going back.
As for me, I'm biding my time until my contract comes up for renewal. We'll see who's the baddest phone on the black then.

CannibalCat, on 26 September 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

My friend got an i9100 and is totally in love with it. He tossed his iPhone4 to his wife and says he's never going back.
As for me, I'm biding my time until my contract comes up for renewal. We'll see who's the baddest phone on the black then.

er... black=block. My bad.

[EricSjswr]

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

[nonseq]

EricSjswr, on 26 September 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

And Apple is selling more of those old phones than any other single smartphone. Why? Because Apple is not selling features and specifications and a DIY OS that is unpolished and fragmented by manufacturer UI layers. Apple sells iPhones, and on Apple's schedule.

If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone. When iPhone 5 is ready it will fly off the shelves.

[ryan80]

What they are saying is that the general concensus is that the iPhone 5 (or whatever it will be called) is late in coming out. They have missed the schedule that they have kept with every other iPhone. Every news organization thought that it would have been released by now, but has been left wondering. People looking to upgrade have been left wondering when it will be coming out, and dont want to get an iPhone 4 which is getting closer to being a year and a half old.

Long and short of it is, that Apple had been releasing the iPhone on a pretty set schedule, and they have missed that date by 3-4 months. Whether this was planned or they have been hit by delays, it has left shoppers wondering and probably given opportunity to other manufacturers to get higher sales on their handsets.

This isnt a dig on Apple, but they havnt met the expected time line that they have established by example with their previous iPhones.

[42n81]

You can't blame Apple for wanting to take its time copying and stealing Samsung's design for the "vastly" successful Galaxy S II.

[nonseq]

42n81, on 26 September 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

You can't blame Apple for wanting to take its time copying and stealing Samsung's design for the "vastly" successful Galaxy S II.

ROFLMAO

Yeah from Samsung's cracker jack design staff- comprised mostly of copy machines and scanners

This post has been edited by nonseq: 26 September 2011 - 08:14 AM

[ryan80]

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

EricSjswr, on 26 September 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

And Apple is selling more of those old phones than any other single smartphone. Why? Because Apple is not selling features and specifications and a DIY OS that is unpolished and fragmented by manufacturer UI layers. Apple sells iPhones, and on Apple's schedule.

If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone. When iPhone 5 is ready it will fly off the shelves.

That is a very profound statement, "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

[nonseq]

ryan80, on 26 September 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

EricSjswr, on 26 September 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

And Apple is selling more of those old phones than any other single smartphone. Why? Because Apple is not selling features and specifications and a DIY OS that is unpolished and fragmented by manufacturer UI layers. Apple sells iPhones, and on Apple's schedule.

If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone. When iPhone 5 is ready it will fly off the shelves.

That is a very profound statement, "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

Actually lifted from an iPhone commercial but it does describe the difference in mindset between the iPhone customer and the non-iPhone customer.

This post has been edited by nonseq: 26 September 2011 - 08:33 AM

[venom210]

The reason Apple has delayed the iphone is that everytime they are ready to release it some other phone comes out with better features and Apple has to make adjustments to compete

[ryan80]

venom210, on 26 September 2011 - 09:38 AM, said:

The reason Apple has delayed the iphone is that everytime they are ready to release it some other phone comes out with better features and Apple has to make adjustments to compete

I doubt anyone who is not so wrapped up in a NDA agreements that they cant tell what direction is up, really knows what is going on. However Apple is usually not so to concerned about meeting specifications of competitors, and more so on the overall experience. I would think that delays were more likely related to manufacturing issues or the release of IOS 5 with testing and app developement, but again it is anyone's guess.

[ryan80]

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 08:33 AM, said:

ryan80, on 26 September 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

EricSjswr, on 26 September 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

And Apple is selling more of those old phones than any other single smartphone. Why? Because Apple is not selling features and specifications and a DIY OS that is unpolished and fragmented by manufacturer UI layers. Apple sells iPhones, and on Apple's schedule.

If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone. When iPhone 5 is ready it will fly off the shelves.

That is a very profound statement, "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

Actually lifted from an iPhone commercial but it does describe the difference in mindset between the iPhone customer and the non-iPhone customer.

The Android market share has been increasing steadily while the iPhone market shared has stayed the same. The iPhone is the most popular phone for sure, but Samsung has been catching up with them. On a per manufacturer comparison, Samsung is surprisingly close. The Galaxy S2 has wracked up some impressive numbers and while not what the iPhone's are has come within a decent percentage of the iPhone.

Now of course with the iPhone 5 being released hopefully before to long, I am sure that we will see a lot of these numbers change in the next few months. IOS still has a more unified environment, however Android cannot be dismissed as the major contender with IOS, and with the efforts that Google is making to prevent fragmentation and create a unified OS for both tablets and phone, the experience is only going to get better. Within a 2 year period we will see a lot less fragmentation of Android versions among handsets, as users refresh their handsets with newer versions that will be running more unified releases of Android.

[Kazmatron]

The title is just pointing out that the iPhone 5 is missing out on phone sales, sales that are going to other manufacturers.

People sure do get worked up awfully quick here....

[nonseq]

ryan80, on 26 September 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 08:33 AM, said:

ryan80, on 26 September 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

nonseq, on 26 September 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

EricSjswr, on 26 September 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

MIA means that the market is moving on, there are several great options and apple is selling a phone that is well over a year old. No new iphone to compete means missing in action. Release date be damned- they are not current and are slow to release based on the historical timeline THEY set.

And Apple is selling more of those old phones than any other single smartphone. Why? Because Apple is not selling features and specifications and a DIY OS that is unpolished and fragmented by manufacturer UI layers. Apple sells iPhones, and on Apple's schedule.

If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone. When iPhone 5 is ready it will fly off the shelves.

That is a very profound statement, "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

Actually lifted from an iPhone commercial but it does describe the difference in mindset between the iPhone customer and the non-iPhone customer.

The Android market share has been increasing steadily while the iPhone market shared has stayed the same. The iPhone is the most popular phone for sure, but Samsung has been catching up with them. On a per manufacturer comparison, Samsung is surprisingly close. The Galaxy S2 has wracked up some impressive numbers and while not what the iPhone's are has come within a decent percentage of the iPhone.

Now of course with the iPhone 5 being released hopefully before to long, I am sure that we will see a lot of these numbers change in the next few months. IOS still has a more unified environment, however Android cannot be dismissed as the major contender with IOS, and with the efforts that Google is making to prevent fragmentation and create a unified OS for both tablets and phone, the experience is only going to get better. Within a 2 year period we will see a lot less fragmentation of Android versions among handsets, as users refresh their handsets with newer versions that will be running more unified releases of Android.

But the "impressive numbers" from Samsung are, for the most part "units shipped" and not units sold. That's not to say that Samsung is not carving out a large market share but iPhone sales are not flat at all. Sales of iPhones (SOLD, not shipped) have increased significantly month to month and year to year. Third quarter 2011 iPhone sales were up 142%. ( http://www.apple.com...er-Results.html AND http://arstechnica.c...est-of-2011.ars ) That is not flat

This post has been edited by nonseq: 26 September 2011 - 10:48 AM

[TheTess]

DebbieTT, on 26 September 2011 - 06:27 AM, said:

> iPhone 5 MIA

How can something be "missing in action" when it doesn't even have a release date yet?

Don't you mean: "PcWorld incorrectly thinks it would/should/could be released in Sept... but they were wrong"?

The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple. It has NOTHING to do with "but PcWorld wants it to be released sooner than it could possibly be released".

"The iPhone release date is running EXACTLY as carefully planned/schedule by Apple"

lol, are you sure you dont work for olle CRAPple? Did Steveo tell you this personally?
Yea, I didnt think so, go back to Mac World and play with your maxi ipads...

This article should have been strictly about Samsung and left the crapple crap out of it.
This iphone doesnt even exist yet!

[lithium451]

Sounds like it's time for Apple to call the lawyers.