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[efreak1]

Bogus. A fully tuned Vista is almost as good as Windows 7. Plus it paved the way for all the great features in 7.

[chosenson]

efreak1, on 10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Bogus. A fully tuned Vista is almost as good as Windows 7. Plus it paved the way for all the great features in 7.

I agree with you. I actually believe that Win 7 is what Microsoft envisioned Vista to be; but they rushed it.

My 4 y.o. Gateway came with Vista; and I haven't had one beef with it. An Intel P dual core 1.6, 2 Gb ram, a well put together machine. I haven't changed it one bit. I still use it daily along side my newer Acer. The Acer is faster due to it is newer and has better specs, but the Gateway can do everything the Acer can do; and almost as fast.

I do agree with the statement about machines not being truly Vista Ready. I have seen many of them.

[NTGOG]

I believe Vista had some doing as in appearance as W7 but you can credit most of the greatness in the testing and testers of the pre W7,RC and XP if not for them it would be another Junkista with improvements

[oldschoolh4ck3r]

Vista was not a failure, seeing as how successful "Windows 7" (Vista SP3) is. I never had any issues running Vista.

[wildlinux]

After the corrupted drivers were fixed ME was fine. I have to disagree about Vista though;I love Vista because it forced me to Linux and the best computer/user experience I've known and better than someone who used Windows for years could ever had expected. My nephews use Xbox and I do like it and will most likely buy one so Microsoft is still getting money from me.

[ronin7752]

efreak1, on 10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Bogus. A fully tuned Vista is almost as good as Windows 7. Plus it paved the way for all the great features in 7.

Nope. It is better, but the "almost as good" is restricted to your uses -- not the public at large. Vista was a totally crap product on delivery. Yes, it's acceptable now. Does that make it ok for mega-monopolies like MS to alternately force us to by their crap/decent releases? Remember Windows 98? (Crap) Remember Windows 98 "Second Edition" (decent) -- which did no more than fix the crap mistakes they made in the first release? Did they provide '98se as a Service Pack? Nope -- if you wanted to get the product performance they promised in the first edition, you had to buy the Second Edition!

M$ has learned NOTHING since their beginning -- except how to squeeze the most money they can out of their naive customers.

This post has been edited by ronin7752: 10 November 2011 - 09:18 PM

[oldschoolh4ck3r]

ronin7752, on 10 November 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

efreak1, on 10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Bogus. A fully tuned Vista is almost as good as Windows 7. Plus it paved the way for all the great features in 7.

Nope. It is better, but the "almost as good" is restricted to your uses -- not the public at large. Vista was a totally crap product on delivery. Yes, it's acceptable now. Does that make it ok for mega-monopolies like MS to alternately force us to by their crap/decent releases? Remember Windows 98? (Crap) Remember Windows 98 "Second Edition" (decent) -- which did no more than fix the crap mistakes they made in the first release? Did they provide '98se as a Service Pack? Nope -- if you wanted to get the product performance they promised in the first edition, you had to buy the Second Edition!

M$ has learned NOTHING since their beginning -- except how to squeeze the most money they can out of their naive customers.

AGREED! Amen to that.
Most of their retail offerings should have been free service packs. But you don't become one of the richest monopolies in the world doing that now, do you?

[JimH443]

If my one experience with a Win Phone is representative of all of them, I won't be getting one any time soon. When I plugged it into my computer, I needed to use ZUNE in order to do anything. If other Win phones can appear as a flash drive (the way my Android and MP3 players do), I'll consider them.

[anonymousr46j]

@ travelsko, you wrote:
"wp7 has failed so badly, for three years ago wp has got a market share of 5% now the market share is under 1% 6.5 has failed Kin has failed wp7 has failed. Samsungs own OS Bada Outsells wp7. I think with no games and no apps its hard to compete.




Lte or 4G or Dual core. wp7 is outdated loosers OS"

A) "loosers" is not a word.
Windows Phone did not exist 3 years ago.
C) Windows Phone has not failed.

It's only been a year on the market. If Microsoft had given up on it like it did on the Kin, then you can say it failed.

D) Dual core is not needed on Windows Phone.

The OS is smooth and not clunky like Android.

E) LTE is most likely coming in January.

@ JimH443, you need iTunes to transfer content to the iPhones just as you need Zune for Windows Phone.

[JimH443]

anonymousr46j, on 11 November 2011 - 11:26 AM, said:

@ JimH443, you need iTunes to transfer content to the iPhones just as you need Zune for Windows Phone.

You're right. I had forgotten that was one of the reasons why I haven't even considered buying an iPhone.

[TuanLe]

I don't understand why people hate the Office Paper Clip. I loved it. It's cute and hilarious, and it's not like you can't turn it off. It was the best upgrades between Office 95 and 97 for me )

[TuanLe]

I don't understand why people hate Office's Clippy so much. I loved it. It's cute and hilarious and it's not like you can't turn it off. It's the most noticeable upgrade between Office 95 and 97. It's stands for new technology and the upgrade from a 486 PC to a Pentium PC to me XD sweet memory.

[michael1213]

efreak1, on 10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Bogus. A fully tuned Vista is almost as good as Windows 7. Plus it paved the way for all the great features in 7.

That is like saying the Titanic wasn't a disaster because it was the best built ship of its day and set the way for those to come.

Clearly Vista was a disaster. Saying anything else is just trying to rationalize the results. Both enterprises and consumers stayed away from it to the best of their ability. Microsoft was forced to retract end-of-lifing Windows XP because of it. The best demonstration of how big a failure it was is that manufacturers, of new computers, had Windows 7 installed but a Windows XP downgrade for the longest time. In other words manufacturers knew if there customers didn't want Windows 7 they were going to want XP and not Vista. That is a disaster.

This post has been edited by michael1213: 08 December 2011 - 04:15 PM