[LiveBrianD]

crazy4laptops, on 17 December 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 17 December 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

But if you only have 200GB space, how do you use that much data? Do you delete stuff soon after you download it?

I delete the apps that I'm not gonna need like SQL Server 2005... but there's a whole other world of data out there ;-)
Netflix/TV streaming, iTunes Movies, uploading HQ photos to Dreamstime stock photography and of course, facebook and tumblr!

So you download the entire internet, then you see what you actually need, right? I would've thought that you'd have a 3TB HDD or two with that kind of usage.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

So you download the entire internet, then you see what you actually need, right? I would've thought that you'd have a 3TB HDD or two with that kind of usage.

HEY - Don't make fun of us with 3TB in raid arrays!

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 01:55 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

So you download the entire internet, then you see what you actually need, right? I would've thought that you'd have a 3TB HDD or two with that kind of usage.

HEY - Don't make fun of us with 3TB in raid arrays!

Dang... combining all the storage I have:
640GB (boot)+500GB(secondary)+500GB(in closet)+80GB(older IDE)+250GB (in closet)+2TB(external backup drive), I have about 4TB.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

Dang... combining all the storage I have:
640GB (boot)+500GB(secondary)+500GB(in closet)+80GB(older IDE)+250GB (in closet)+2TB(external backup drive), I have about 4TB.

There is about 4TB total in the media center alone(added a couple drives - testing the HW raid controller)... The main PC is running about another 2.2TB, the testing machine has several drives, totaling a litter over 1TB, and the laptops are running 500GB each I think.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 18 December 2011 - 04:43 PM

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

Dang... combining all the storage I have:
640GB (boot)+500GB(secondary)+500GB(in closet)+80GB(older IDE)+250GB (in closet)+2TB(external backup drive), I have about 4TB.

There is about 4TB total in the media center alone(added a couple drives - testing the HW raid controller)... The main PC is running about another 2.2TB, the testing machine has several drives, totaling a litter over 1TB, and the laptops are running 500GB each I think.

2.2TB? What, a 2TB (or 2 1TBs) and a 200GB? Or does this have to do with the MBR limits of the bios? I recall I had 3 HDs in here, the 640GB WD, and 2 500GB Samsungs (pulled these out of a NAS with a dead PCB, thanks a lot Lacie, that unit was known for having PCB failures!), and then removed one because I got the external drive, and the WD was getting up to 43C in the summer. With 2 drives there, it's more like 37C for the WD and 32C for the samsung (in the winter, subtract 4-5C). Unfortunately, this case only supports 3 HDs in total, and no fan in front of them (however, there is a 80mm fan below the cage). I notice some newer antec cases that are about this size allow 6 HDs, and unlike mine that HD space goes down to the bottom of the case (and you can put 2 fans in front, on one case I looked at they were 120mm).

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 18 December 2011 - 05:16 PM

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

2.2TB? What, a 2TB (or 2 1TBs) and a 200GB? Or does this have to do with the MBR limits of the bios? I recall I had 3 HDs in here, the 640GB WD, and 2 500GB Samsungs (pulled these out of a NAS with a dead PCB, thanks a lot Lacie, that unit was known for having PCB failures!), and then removed one because I got the external drive, and the WD was getting up to 43C in the summer. With 2 drives there, it's more like 37C for the WD and 32C for the samsung (in the winter, subtract 4-5C). Unfortunately, this case only supports 3 HDs in total, and no fan in front of them (however, there is a 80mm fan below the cage). I notice some newer antec cases that are about this size allow 6 HDs, and unlike mine that HD space goes down to the bottom of the case (and you can put 2 fans in front, on one case I looked at they were 120mm).

Nah, I have four hard drives in there now (things keep moving around). 2x 320GB in stripped array (windows 7 resides here), 1 1TB storage, and 1 500GB drive I use for testing Windows 8/Linux/etc

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

2.2TB? What, a 2TB (or 2 1TBs) and a 200GB? Or does this have to do with the MBR limits of the bios? I recall I had 3 HDs in here, the 640GB WD, and 2 500GB Samsungs (pulled these out of a NAS with a dead PCB, thanks a lot Lacie, that unit was known for having PCB failures!), and then removed one because I got the external drive, and the WD was getting up to 43C in the summer. With 2 drives there, it's more like 37C for the WD and 32C for the samsung (in the winter, subtract 4-5C). Unfortunately, this case only supports 3 HDs in total, and no fan in front of them (however, there is a 80mm fan below the cage). I notice some newer antec cases that are about this size allow 6 HDs, and unlike mine that HD space goes down to the bottom of the case (and you can put 2 fans in front, on one case I looked at they were 120mm).

Nah, I have four hard drives in there now (things keep moving around). 2x 320GB in stripped array (windows 7 resides here), 1 1TB storage, and 1 500GB drive I use for testing Windows 8/Linux/etc

Oh I see - the particular number 2.2TB got me thinking of the mbr limits.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

2.2TB? What, a 2TB (or 2 1TBs) and a 200GB? Or does this have to do with the MBR limits of the bios? I recall I had 3 HDs in here, the 640GB WD, and 2 500GB Samsungs (pulled these out of a NAS with a dead PCB, thanks a lot Lacie, that unit was known for having PCB failures!), and then removed one because I got the external drive, and the WD was getting up to 43C in the summer. With 2 drives there, it's more like 37C for the WD and 32C for the samsung (in the winter, subtract 4-5C). Unfortunately, this case only supports 3 HDs in total, and no fan in front of them (however, there is a 80mm fan below the cage). I notice some newer antec cases that are about this size allow 6 HDs, and unlike mine that HD space goes down to the bottom of the case (and you can put 2 fans in front, on one case I looked at they were 120mm).

Nah, I have four hard drives in there now (things keep moving around). 2x 320GB in stripped array (windows 7 resides here), 1 1TB storage, and 1 500GB drive I use for testing Windows 8/Linux/etc

Oh I see - the particular number 2.2TB got me thinking of the mbr limits.

Just happened to be due to the combination I used.

The new MSI bios I have supports 3TB+, and I think the EVGA bios is supposed to.

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

Oh I see - the particular number 2.2TB got me thinking of the mbr limits.

Just happened to be due to the combination I used.

The new MSI bios I have supports 3TB+, and I think the EVGA bios is supposed to.

If I use a 3TB HD in this PC (which lacks UEFI, though a huge HD isn't going to happen any time soon due to the prices lol), I could partition it as, say, 2.2TB and 800GB, right, and boot from the 2.2TB partition? And 2.2TB is assuming base-1024, right? (since the HD manufacturers use base-1000 measurements) Or would I need to keep the boot HD at a max of 2TB? (it sounds like the latter, from what I've read)

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 19 December 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

waldojim, on 18 December 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 18 December 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

Oh I see - the particular number 2.2TB got me thinking of the mbr limits.

Just happened to be due to the combination I used.

The new MSI bios I have supports 3TB+, and I think the EVGA bios is supposed to.

If I use a 3TB HD in this PC (which lacks UEFI, though a huge HD isn't going to happen any time soon due to the prices lol), I could partition it as, say, 2.2TB and 800GB, right, and boot from the 2.2TB partition? And 2.2TB is assuming base-1024, right? (since the HD manufacturers use base-1000 measurements) Or would I need to keep the boot HD at a max of 2TB? (it sounds like the latter, from what I've read)

Sadly, no, it doesn't work that way.

The 3TB limit is a Master Boot Record limit. The MBR is one of the few limitations the decades old BIOS remaining. The MBR can only handle drives up to 2.2TB. That limit, you cannot trick your way around. What you CAN do though, is boot off a 1TB drive, and keep a 3TB drive for storage, using GPT on it. Windows has no problem with that, nor does the BIOS, as the BIOS is still booting from a drive with MBR.

[LiveBrianD]

Basically, that's like using a bootdisc (floppy) to start windows setup from a CD when the bios doesn't support booting from CDs, right?