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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:35 AM
If your professional usage involves mostly text and low res .jpg images and basic site monitoring, then you can certainly replace a laptop with an ipad.
If your profession usage involves professional creation suites and high res files (as well as 3D), a tablet is out of the question.
I agree that a casual user can easily replace a laptop with a tablet, but a tablet can only do so much.
Also, I'd like to note that in your "Task at hand" section, you miss one very important thing. The iPad "removes all of that" usually by literally removing the feature completely. It's not that the ipad version is simpler to use, it's just plain simpler and less featured period. If you had all the options of a desktop version on the iPad, you'd have just as many buttons and menus.
If your profession usage involves professional creation suites and high res files (as well as 3D), a tablet is out of the question.
I agree that a casual user can easily replace a laptop with a tablet, but a tablet can only do so much.
Also, I'd like to note that in your "Task at hand" section, you miss one very important thing. The iPad "removes all of that" usually by literally removing the feature completely. It's not that the ipad version is simpler to use, it's just plain simpler and less featured period. If you had all the options of a desktop version on the iPad, you'd have just as many buttons and menus.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:57 AM
KLanD, on 05 December 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:
If your professional usage involves mostly text and low res .jpg images and basic site monitoring, then you can certainly replace a laptop with an ipad.
If your profession usage involves professional creation suites and high res files (as well as 3D), a tablet is out of the question.
I agree that a casual user can easily replace a laptop with a tablet, but a tablet can only do so much.
Also, I'd like to note that in your "Task at hand" section, you miss one very important thing. The iPad "removes all of that" usually by literally removing the feature completely. It's not that the ipad version is simpler to use, it's just plain simpler and less featured period. If you had all the options of a desktop version on the iPad, you'd have just as many buttons and menus.
If your profession usage involves professional creation suites and high res files (as well as 3D), a tablet is out of the question.
I agree that a casual user can easily replace a laptop with a tablet, but a tablet can only do so much.
Also, I'd like to note that in your "Task at hand" section, you miss one very important thing. The iPad "removes all of that" usually by literally removing the feature completely. It's not that the ipad version is simpler to use, it's just plain simpler and less featured period. If you had all the options of a desktop version on the iPad, you'd have just as many buttons and menus.
Agreed. I don't blog or do any real photo/video editing. I use my ipad 24/7 for everyday tasks and entertainment. However, I don't think that the cloud is "up to snuff" so to speak to handle my music, videos, photos, and docs. I prefer the storage of a desktop or laptop with external HD. I would love to see an ipad with an SD card slot. I have replaced my laptop with my ipad for pretty much everything, but the storage and ability to manage everything with my computer will always keep me with a computer. True, a tablet can only do so much.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:43 AM
I still see a tablet more as a secondary device rather than a pure replacement. A 9.7" display is too small for regular day-to-day use and we haven't had 1024 x 768 as a display resolution on PCs for quite a few years (so it makes panning around web pages for example not the best way to show the Internet). The other issue for me, is that current tablets aren't easily shared between family members. I guess it depends on your particular needs though. But I don't see the need to 'shoehorn' a tablet into uses when other options are arguably better at those tasks.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:33 AM
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Much of the portability of a tablet comes from the fact that you don't need to park yourself near a power-socket, or put up with the heat given off by many laptops. Adding a keyboard doesn't lose you much portability, because it's not the absense of a keyboard that is responsible for its portability. Also, you don't necessarily need to carry the keyboard around with you; mine stays at home, where it gets occasional use only.
But the real question is why you need to be so hostile to someone who was merely expressing a different preference to you. Why is it that whenever anyone suggests that they have found—through first-hand experience—that they can be productive with a tablet, there is always someone who feels threatened enough to call them liars?
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:45 AM
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Maybe you should read the article again, because it didn't say that the iPad has become his ONLY computer, but rather, has become his primary and favorite computer. He also seemed to explain very clearly that this may not work for other people, but it has nevertheless worked well for him. If you have more than one computer, you probably have a "primary" computer too- one that you use most of the time. It's no different in this case.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 12:58 PM
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
So when I used a foldable kepboard with my Palm V, or my iPaq, or my Nokia N800 I was using cool toys and not a real portable computer? How about the HP 100LX that really was no different than the XT desktop I had. I have no doubt I was using the right tool for the job at hand - which was content creation in an environment that allowed for a small, highly portable device. Why carry around a much bigger, heavier machine for occasional use. Of course, I could go back to toting Compaq luggables on public transportation. I guess that is what would make me a genuine computer user to Kadidelhopper. It would also make me a back pain patient for the orthopod ;-) as would a lot of today's laptops.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:15 PM
crosswordbob, on 05 December 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Much of the portability of a tablet comes from the fact that you don't need to park yourself near a power-socket, or put up with the heat given off by many laptops. Adding a keyboard doesn't lose you much portability, because it's not the absense of a keyboard that is responsible for its portability. Also, you don't necessarily need to carry the keyboard around with you; mine stays at home, where it gets occasional use only.
But the real question is why you need to be so hostile to someone who was merely expressing a different preference to you. Why is it that whenever anyone suggests that they have found—through first-hand experience—that they can be productive with a tablet, there is always someone who feels threatened enough to call them liars?
Crosswordbob didn't have to be rude, but he's got a point. The real question is can tablet easily be used as your primary computer? And the thing is.. when you connect keyboard to a tablet, it's not a tablet anymore - it's more like notebook with touchscreen. But anyway, that might be a solution if you need long battery life.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:21 PM
crosswordbob, on 05 December 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Much of the portability of a tablet comes from the fact that you don't need to park yourself near a power-socket, or put up with the heat given off by many laptops. Adding a keyboard doesn't lose you much portability, because it's not the absense of a keyboard that is responsible for its portability. Also, you don't necessarily need to carry the keyboard around with you; mine stays at home, where it gets occasional use only.
But the real question is why you need to be so hostile to someone who was merely expressing a different preference to you. Why is it that whenever anyone suggests that they have found—through first-hand experience—that they can be productive with a tablet, there is always someone who feels threatened enough to call them liars?
Kadidelhopper didn't have to be rude, but he's got a point. The real question is can tablet easily be used as your primary computer? And the thing is.. when you connect keyboard to a tablet, it's not a tablet anymore, it's more like notebook with touchscreen. But anyway, that might be a solution if you need long battery life.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:29 PM
Excellent Review
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:46 PM
IlyaDudanoff, on 05 December 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:
crosswordbob, on 05 December 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Much of the portability of a tablet comes from the fact that you don't need to park yourself near a power-socket, or put up with the heat given off by many laptops. Adding a keyboard doesn't lose you much portability, because it's not the absense of a keyboard that is responsible for its portability. Also, you don't necessarily need to carry the keyboard around with you; mine stays at home, where it gets occasional use only.
But the real question is why you need to be so hostile to someone who was merely expressing a different preference to you. Why is it that whenever anyone suggests that they have found—through first-hand experience—that they can be productive with a tablet, there is always someone who feels threatened enough to call them liars?
Kadidelhopper didn't have to be rude, but he's got a point. The real question is can tablet easily be used as your primary computer? And the thing is.. when you connect keyboard to a tablet, it's not a tablet anymore, it's more like notebook with touchscreen. But anyway, that might be a solution if you need long battery life.
Well there is only one answer to the question of whether or not a tablet can easily be used as your primary computer, and that is that it depends what you need a computer for. Personally I need a desktop for my work, and there my tablet plays a supporting role only. At home, the question is slightly more complex, in that I rarely sit at my desktop (except when gaming), spending virtually all my computing time with the tablet, but a fair bit of that time is actually spent using it in conjunction with my PCs; remote desktopping to kick off and monitor long-running tasks, administrating virtual servers via ssh or simply running applications unsuited to the tablet. I can say that my old laptop has barely been touched since the tablet arrived.
As for the keyboard question, I'd again point out that even if you have one (and not everyone will necessarily need one), you still have the benefit of being able to leave it behind when not needed. Besides which, part of the article talks about the iPad and iOS as a platform, which goes beyond the simple matter of whether or not there's a keyboard.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:59 PM
crosswordbob, on 05 December 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:
IlyaDudanoff, on 05 December 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:
crosswordbob, on 05 December 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
Much of the portability of a tablet comes from the fact that you don't need to park yourself near a power-socket, or put up with the heat given off by many laptops. Adding a keyboard doesn't lose you much portability, because it's not the absense of a keyboard that is responsible for its portability. Also, you don't necessarily need to carry the keyboard around with you; mine stays at home, where it gets occasional use only.
But the real question is why you need to be so hostile to someone who was merely expressing a different preference to you. Why is it that whenever anyone suggests that they have found—through first-hand experience—that they can be productive with a tablet, there is always someone who feels threatened enough to call them liars?
Kadidelhopper didn't have to be rude, but he's got a point. The real question is can tablet easily be used as your primary computer? And the thing is.. when you connect keyboard to a tablet, it's not a tablet anymore, it's more like notebook with touchscreen. But anyway, that might be a solution if you need long battery life.
Well there is only one answer to the question of whether or not a tablet can easily be used as your primary computer, and that is that it depends what you need a computer for. Personally I need a desktop for my work, and there my tablet plays a supporting role only. At home, the question is slightly more complex, in that I rarely sit at my desktop (except when gaming), spending virtually all my computing time with the tablet, but a fair bit of that time is actually spent using it in conjunction with my PCs; remote desktopping to kick off and monitor long-running tasks, administrating virtual servers via ssh or simply running applications unsuited to the tablet. I can say that my old laptop has barely been touched since the tablet arrived.
As for the keyboard question, I'd again point out that even if you have one (and not everyone will necessarily need one), you still have the benefit of being able to leave it behind when not needed. Besides which, part of the article talks about the iPad and iOS as a platform, which goes beyond the simple matter of whether or not there's a keyboard.
You know, just for the record. I agree with a lot of what you say and when I do I don't usually feel the need to post such accordance. I know we butt heads on a few topics, but I think we are in unsaid agreement often as well.
Or maybe it's just me.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 02:52 PM
KLanD, on 05 December 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:
You know, just for the record. I agree with a lot of what you say and when I do I don't usually feel the need to post such accordance. I know we butt heads on a few topics, but I think we are in unsaid agreement often as well.
Or maybe it's just me.
Or maybe it's just me.
Cheers—it's often the way with forums such as this, and I know I do exactly the same when reading posts with which I agree
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:21 PM
Your apples have fermented...if your want reallly good battery life A:
get a life B: get a bigger battery oh wait you have a mac lol I get 5-6 hrs with my hp g7 with ext.batt. with all my setting cranked up. it caost me 426.00 plus 45.00 for matched set of 8 gig sticks that came with a free 4 gig micro sd mem card plust 120.00 for the second batt. can't touch that with a fruit the end.
get a life B: get a bigger battery oh wait you have a mac lol I get 5-6 hrs with my hp g7 with ext.batt. with all my setting cranked up. it caost me 426.00 plus 45.00 for matched set of 8 gig sticks that came with a free 4 gig micro sd mem card plust 120.00 for the second batt. can't touch that with a fruit the end.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:23 PM
SteveJones, on 05 December 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:
Your apples have fermented...if your want reallly good battery life A:
get a life B: get a bigger battery oh wait you have a mac lol I get 5-6 hrs with my hp g7 with ext.batt. with all my setting cranked up. it caost me 426.00 plus 45.00 for matched set of 8 gig sticks that came with a free 4 gig micro sd mem card plust 120.00 for the second batt. can't touch that with a fruit the end.
get a life B: get a bigger battery oh wait you have a mac lol I get 5-6 hrs with my hp g7 with ext.batt. with all my setting cranked up. it caost me 426.00 plus 45.00 for matched set of 8 gig sticks that came with a free 4 gig micro sd mem card plust 120.00 for the second batt. can't touch that with a fruit the end.
wow that also leaves me enough for glasses so I can type better lol
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:05 PM
Can you multitask? Does the ipad have a good word processor built in? Does it have local storage? That's why I prefer regular netbooks running Windows, a whole lot more functional. (A high end one costs the same as an ipad, is a tad bulkier and has less battery life, but is MUCH more usable.)
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:12 PM
LiveBrianD, on 05 December 2011 - 07:05 PM, said:
Can you multitask?
Yes.
LiveBrianD said:
Does the ipad have a good word processor built in?
Does Windows?
LiveBrianD said:
Does it have local storage?
Yes.
LiveBrianD said:
That's why I prefer regular netbooks running Windows, a whole lot more functional. (A high end one costs the same as an ipad, is a tad bulkier and has less battery life, but is MUCH more usable.)
I find quite the reverse. I personally find netbooks irritating to use; particularly the tiny trackpads most offer. But hey—people vary.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:37 PM
Kadidelhopper, on 05 December 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:
Yeah, add a keyboard, add a 24" monitor, what else can you add and still call it an Ipad. The Ipad is a cool toy for a lot of things. It does not replace a real computer. Adding things to an Ipad and it is no longer an Ipad. It loses the portability. Don't call it an ipad when you are adding things to it. And you still are using a real computer what you admit to being 20% of the time. For all your real work no doubt. sorry pal, cash you Apple check fast, you didn't even come close to making your point, unless it was to make yourself look stupid.
All the guy said was how the iPad became HIS favorite computer. One way was to add a keyboard. Dude, it's still a computer. Read the headline, Sherlock.
Waas up, holmes.. he pimped his ride
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 02:13 PM
Ipads and iphones are becoming de rigueur tools for the legal industry. http://www.angellawoffices.com
