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Amazon's Kindle Fire Will Help Sell Ipads, Analyst Says

#1 PCWorld

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:22 AM

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:17 AM

Honestly.. for a few people I can see this, for the majority of people I doubt it.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that they're just deluding themselves. Android experience is unique, and cross-overs to Apple are actually not as common as they would hope. Plus, this is Amazon's first Android offering. They will enhance it yearly. Same way an Apple addict will buy the current year's model every time, a well priced device will garner the same fan base and purchase pattern. If it's always upgraded yearly, there's no reason to jump ship and go a LOT more expensive for a few extra features that the Kindle Fire will eventually offer anyway.

Besides that, tablets are really just toys. And that comes from someone that owns two. $200 is a reasonable loss for the average Joe to buy a tablet/toy. But $500-800...I don't think so. That's why tablet sales have been so slow. Too pricey for a toy. You can justify all you want that they're more than just a toy, but deep down, we all know that's what they are. It's like justifying owning a Ferrari. It doesn't do anything more practically than a well priced car. It's just a toy.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:26 AM

What an analysis. If that is the case I see them moving a Asus Transformer Prime instead the mother of all tablets right now or any other Android tablet for that matter when they can reuse the apps the buy.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

Does JP Morgan hire monkeys these days? I guess the figure the quality of their analysts is unimportant, as they will just be bailed out the next time they hit trouble.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

The Kindle Fire will be #1 in the "people who always buy the wrong thing" demographic. My wife has a couple co-workers that are senior citizens, and BOTH of them went right out and bought a Kindle Fire. Maybe that will be a lucrative group for them to target?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

Shouldn't the title be the other way around? The iPad is helping to sell the Amazon Kindle Fire.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:44 AM

Actually, I crossed over from ipad to an android tablet. Ipad is NOT more feature-rich. I switched because (1) ipad's resolution is not fine enough (smaller texts look fuzzy) and (2) iOS just makes a lot of things very difficult in order to keep you in the apple universe (e.g., gosh, how could copy/transfer files, music, pictures, texts, pdfs, be so painful in iOS?!). Ipad's advantage is mainly from 3rd-party developers who created prettier and more user-friendly apps. However, android apps are catching up quickly. Maybe kindle fire users will upgrade to other android tablets.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:58 AM

This is total crock. It's never good news when a low cost competitor is selling like hotcakes. Saying that Kindle Fire users will drive the sales of iPad is like saying Windows Netbook users will drive sales of high end Macs because they have faster CPUs , more memory etc. If they want more horsepower they'll much more likely go for a Windows high end PC . Andorid tablets users in need of more horsepower will most likely go for a more powerful Android tablet.I'm sure Amazon has something like that in their future plans.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:13 AM

These are two completely separate markets.
Kindle won't hurt iPad sales, but it won't help either.
It's like comparing Bently to Kia.
Bently buyers would never look to a Kia asd an alternative and even if a Kia buyer wanted a Bently, it would be WAY out of their price range. They might seriously consider a Toyota (e.g. a Nook or an Archos), but never a Bently.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:03 PM

Here we go again!
The iStatusSymbol ......
Anything with an "i" is a Bentley.
What a load of sh1t!
Why don't these folks just grow up?
An "i" device "would be WAY out of their (Android user's) price range"
What ridiculous fanboi snobbery!

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:08 PM

Nac, on 05 December 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

The iPad has a 95% customer satisfaction rating with 2% indifferent, 1% unsatisfied and 1% very unsatisfied. Just because you are in the latter 2% does not mean that your experience is typical.

Source: "iPad satisfaction starts high and rises, University of Missouri study finds"-Business Journal, July 12 2011

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:16 PM

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Android experience is unique, and cross-overs to Apple are actually not as common as they would hope.

You've got that backwards. Far more Android users defect to iOS than the other way around.

Source: "UBS: iPhone’s 89% retention rate crushes competition; next closest is HTC at 39%"-BGR, 9/22/2011

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Plus, this is Amazon's first Android offering. They will enhance it yearly..

Will Apple not enhance the iPad too?

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

(T)ablets are really just toys.

I doubt that the CEOs, doctors, lawyers, Realtors, retailers, salesmen, etc, who rely on them to make a living would agree.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 07:10 AM

"The iPad has a 95% customer satisfaction rating..."
Well, that is one way to distort the figures!
Of those you quote, half of them were only "somewhat satisfied" - which means they are not really happy with Apple!
More twisted stats from a fanboi ...

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StephenHartwell, on 05 December 2011 - 09:37 AM, said:

Does JP Morgan hire monkeys these days? I guess the figure the quality of their analysts is unimportant, as they will just be bailed out the next time they hit trouble.

Stephen, you have it half right, the monkey part is true, or so it seems.

The real crock is that these IT companies are customers of JP Morgan so of course they are going to say the most outlandish and unsubstantiated "storys" about their clients.

Same with Gartner and their "Magic Quadrant", it always seems as though the largest customers of Gartner are in the upper right (recommend buying) area. I watched Gartner go from a very good "heads up" company to a "I've already read the news and specs" where Gartner "Analysts" don't know anymore than the trade publications.

Let me put it this way, I wouldn't hire one of their Anaylsts (exception: the older "hands on" Analysts) but you never get to talk to them until it's too late.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:18 PM

FalKirk, on 05 December 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Android experience is unique, and cross-overs to Apple are actually not as common as they would hope.

You've got that backwards. Far more Android users defect to iOS than the other way around.

Source: "UBS: iPhone’s 89% retention rate crushes competition; next closest is HTC at 39%"-BGR, 9/22/2011

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Plus, this is Amazon's first Android offering. They will enhance it yearly..

Will Apple not enhance the iPad too?

StephenEllis, on 05 December 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

(T)ablets are really just toys.

I doubt that the CEOs, doctors, lawyers, Realtors, retailers, salesmen, etc, who rely on them to make a living would agree.

Until their iPad breaks or they drop it. As you said, it's CEOs, Doctors, Lawyers, Realtors, Retailers, and Salesmen that rely on them to conduct their Life and Business. These Executive types can't tolerate downtime and will certainly see a break in their lives and will rethink a pad.
I'm certainly not saying that pads don't have there niche application areas, but to depend on one for the executives you are speaking about is an IT support Nightmare.