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[justchris2010]

What does US Immigration Services have to do with websites any way our government is abusing powers they don't even have rights to use!

[WilliamFerguson]

justchris2010, on 11 December 2011 - 07:47 PM, said:

What does US Immigration Services have to do with websites any way our government is abusing powers they don't even have rights to use!

The PRO-IP act gave them the authority.

This post has been edited by WilliamFerguson: 12 December 2011 - 02:25 AM

[databaseben]

The question is if people can use whatever means there is to steal from the owners of the property they are selling or giving away?

It is believed that if no one is protecting the victims or their property, then criminals have every right to take advantage of the opportunity; because if the police can't enforce the laws, then criminals are free (have the right) to do whatever they can.

Since I don't patronize criminals, I really don't care about their whining that their rights being violated.

[xyberviri]

Doesn't all that wishy washy verbage on the bill mean that if I just put a link in this comment saying: "you can download illegal software, music and movies on thepiratebay.org" that pcworld.com would get shutdown and seized by ICE.

or the fact that pcworld has a article that talks about http://www.piratebay.org that it could get shutdown.

This is basically guilt by association.

[bago40]

Our government has run amuck for decades now. The American people don't seem to care that the powers that be are continuously increasing thier control over us and soon will completely ignore the constitution and take away all our freedom. We've become like the frog in the cooking pot - put to sleep by the warm water and will find ourselves cooked shortly!

[linuxrants7xpg]

bago40, on 12 December 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

Our government has run amuck for decades now. The American people don't seem to care that the powers that be are continuously increasing thier control over us and soon will completely ignore the constitution and take away all our freedom. We've become like the frog in the cooking pot - put to sleep by the warm water and will find ourselves cooked shortly!

The problem isn't really with the government. The government has just become a tool of big business. Large corporations/associations (such as the RIAA and MPAA) are getting laws passed that allow them unprecedented rights. Until we put a kibosh on letting businesses create our laws, this kind of thing is going to just keep on happening. Welcome to the land of the free.

[deepsand]

databaseben, on 12 December 2011 - 07:21 AM, said:

Since I don't patronize criminals, I really don't care about their whining that their rights being violated.

Do you also not care about collateral damage to the innocent?

Do you not care that this nation has taken a long and well established legal stance against preemptive censorship?

[databaseben]

deepsand, on 12 December 2011 - 02:57 PM, said:

databaseben, on 12 December 2011 - 07:21 AM, said:

Since I don't patronize criminals, I really don't care about their whining that their rights being violated.

Do you also not care about collateral damage to the innocent?

Do you not care that this nation has taken a long and well established legal stance against preemptive censorship?

Yeah I do and there will be collateral damage. But collateral damage in these cases are not life threatening. Meaning that if there are mistakes made, the judicial process and the facts are the victims friends in a court of law.

As for the criminals, i want them in prison where their voices and freedom are denied, and i want their tools censored too.

[JTF243]

Since when did this administration care about the First Amendment? Look at how they have reacted to many of the comments about Obama's failures, calling them "hate speech" or "racist" when all they are talking about is his squandering of taxpayer's money.

[Swifty991]

Can I just say. developers know alot more about the internet than the government. they will easily get around it. Also, Domain and hosting companies that are not based in the US will not have to comply with US Law so if US citizens were to purchase a domain outside of the US the US government have no power to take it offline they can filter or sensor it but as i said give it a week and some coder will have cracked it.

[deepsand]

databaseben, on 12 December 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

deepsand, on 12 December 2011 - 02:57 PM, said:

databaseben, on 12 December 2011 - 07:21 AM, said:

Since I don't patronize criminals, I really don't care about their whining that their rights being violated.

Do you also not care about collateral damage to the innocent?

Do you not care that this nation has taken a long and well established legal stance against preemptive censorship?

Yeah I do and there will be collateral damage. But collateral damage in these cases are not life threatening. Meaning that if there are mistakes made, the judicial process and the facts are the victims friends in a court of law.

As for the criminals, i want them in prison where their voices and freedom are denied, and i want their tools censored too.

So, harm which is not "life threatening" should be ignored? No steps taken to avoid such are required?

Remember that the next time that you are in any way harmed and survive ti tell the tale.

[deepsand]

JTF243, on 12 December 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

Since when did this administration care about the First Amendment? Look at how they have reacted to many of the comments about Obama's failures, calling them "hate speech" or "racist" when all they are talking about is his squandering of taxpayer's money.

Just what does said Amendment have to do with the subject at hand?

[deepsand]

Swifty991, on 12 January 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Can I just say. developers know alot more about the internet than the government. they will easily get around it. Also, Domain and hosting companies that are not based in the US will not have to comply with US Law so if US citizens were to purchase a domain outside of the US the US government have no power to take it offline they can filter or sensor it but as i said give it a week and some coder will have cracked it.

No access to the host is here required; simply alter the DNS so that the site is inaccessible.