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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:11 AM
There is not going to be an end to surreptitious attempts to track and manipulate us unless we fight back a LOT. Now that Carrier IQ has been exposed, we can expect future monitoring software to become ever-harder to detect, expose, and remove. "Weaselware" is far too mild a term, by the way. How about "deceitware"?omment
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:36 AM
Sadly, this is just a me-too, and one that almost nobody seems to understand.
Amazon's marketplace requires not only that you install their (extra) marketplace software to your SmartPhone, but that YOU KEEP IT INSTALLED if you want to use the apps you get from them.
It's only going to get worse.
Amazon's marketplace requires not only that you install their (extra) marketplace software to your SmartPhone, but that YOU KEEP IT INSTALLED if you want to use the apps you get from them.
It's only going to get worse.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:48 PM
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Technically, weaselware is any informationtechnology product designed or distributed for dishonest purposes ... .
Recent examples include ... persistent cookies ... .
Recent examples include ... persistent cookies ... .
Clearly you fail to understand the necessity for a mechanism that maintains statefullness in a stateless protocol such as TCP/IP, and that HTML cookies were designed for such purpose long before they came to be exploited by some.
Do not blame the tool for how it is used.
While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:16 PM
Just exactly what is Weaselware? My understanding is that a weasel is somewhat like a ferret. A Wolverine is a member of the weasel family. Is Microsoft turning a Wolverine loose on the world? Sombody needs to clarify their statements.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:17 PM
It is a crying shame that people do NOT have more of a "backbone" as you mentioned. If they did, not only would "crapware" like this not be allowed, nor would the atrocities occuring at our airports be allowed.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM
Nobody seems to be asking the Question: Will Microsoft be required to turn over to the Government any Records of which Software they cut off, whose it was, and why? Likewise, how much of the info that Carrier IQ records will wind up in the Hnds of the Government? Scary!!
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:36 PM
Wecome to the New World Order...? Well it sure seems it's headed in that direction. Especially with some of the new bills which by the way will make this type of thing perfectly Legal for the Goverment and some Software Venders to use. And will be auto installed on everything that has a chip. Next even you. Yes it's a Slipery slope that Microsoft and other Software vendors aren't sliding down but leaping joyfully down.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:52 PM
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Nobody seems to be asking the Question: Will Microsoft be required to turn over to the Government any Records of which Software they cut off, whose it was, and why?
Are you advocating for or against such? And, of what use to government?
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Likewise, how much of the info that Carrier IQ records will wind up in the Hnds of the Government? Scary!!
Well, if you listen to those here who claim to know enough to promptly pass judgement on CIQ, the telcos have no real need for it, because they are already gleaning everything possible from you cell phone. And, we already know that some telcos bowed to the Bush administration's demands for private data.
While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 08:03 PM
TheOldTopkick, on 12 December 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:
Just exactly what is Weaselware? My understanding is that a weasel is somewhat like a ferret. A Wolverine is a member of the weasel family. Is Microsoft turning a Wolverine loose on the world? Sombody needs to clarify their statements.
Maybe it's MS Mink.
While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 08:39 AM
deepsand, on 14 December 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Nobody seems to be asking the Question: Will Microsoft be required to turn over to the Government any Records of which Software they cut off, whose it was, and why?
Are you advocating for or against such? And, of what use to government?
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Likewise, how much of the info that Carrier IQ records will wind up in the Hnds of the Government? Scary!!
Well, if you listen to those here who claim to know enough to promptly pass judgement on CIQ, the telcos have no real need for it, because they are already gleaning everything possible from you cell phone. And, we already know that some telcos bowed to the Bush administration's demands for private data.
It's great to see that someone gets it. Maybe it's time for "Occupy Software?" LOL
"You can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time...those are pretty good odds!"
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 06:16 PM
mikeyr, on 16 December 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:
deepsand, on 14 December 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Nobody seems to be asking the Question: Will Microsoft be required to turn over to the Government any Records of which Software they cut off, whose it was, and why?
Are you advocating for or against such? And, of what use to government?
Gersheps, on 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:
Likewise, how much of the info that Carrier IQ records will wind up in the Hnds of the Government? Scary!!
Well, if you listen to those here who claim to know enough to promptly pass judgement on CIQ, the telcos have no real need for it, because they are already gleaning everything possible from you cell phone. And, we already know that some telcos bowed to the Bush administration's demands for private data.
It's great to see that someone gets it. Maybe it's time for "Occupy Software?" LOL
OS - Not to be confused with Operating System.
Still, I'm hard pressed to understand of what interest to government such things as the operating temperature of the battery in ones cell phone.
While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 07:28 PM
Fight Back? I for one will never use a cell phone Because of practices like Carrier IQ uses.
Nor will I EVER download ANYTHING from Mickeysofts "App Store". What software I use on MY computer is MY business, NOT Mickeysofts!!!!!
Pirate-ware isn't looking so bad now, huh?
MLStrand56
Nor will I EVER download ANYTHING from Mickeysofts "App Store". What software I use on MY computer is MY business, NOT Mickeysofts!!!!!
Pirate-ware isn't looking so bad now, huh?
MLStrand56
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