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Posted 25 December 2011 - 04:35 PM

I just got all the computer componetns for christmas, and was following the instructions of this video >
And i am at the test boot Part, where i just install the core components outside of the case to e sure everything works.
I have safely placed the cpu in the holder
I have installed the cpu fan
I have installed the memory
I installed the Video card
I believe i have everything i need plugged into the Power supply

My Components:
Mobo- Asus Maximus Extreme-z
Memory- Corsair vengeance 8gb
Cpu fan- Colermaster hyper 212 plus
Video card- GTX 570 EVGA Superclocked
Power supply: Corsair 750 watt professional

The main problem is that When i turn on the motherboard no image comes up on the monitor ( I have a vha cable going from graphics card, to monitor ) but there is no picture, what do i do?
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 06:08 PM

The only image you should get is the ASUS splash screen as that means the MOBO is posting. It sounds as if it may not be posting. Try just two sticks of ram in Slots A2 & B2 ( believe those are the correct slots for a two stick configuration ). If that doesn't work, then try resetting your BiOS. Also, I am assuming you used thermal compound between the processor and heat sink. Also make sure your MOBO is sitting on the box it came in and the Video card is firmly seated in the PCIe slot. The Mounting bracket for the Video card has to hang over the edge of the box to keep it from pushing the card out of the slot.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

Try removing the cmos battery for a few minutes - it's a little coin battery next to the PCIe x16 slot (where the graphics card is). This will reset the BIOS settings.
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 07:16 PM

I need to back up a bit.

You built this outside your case.

Then you turned the motherboard on.

How are you doing that?

Are you leaving a jumper on the two pins for system start?

Do you see the PSU fan turn and you are getting a motherboard power LED on?

Make sure you have the 20-24 pin connector firmly inplace.

BTW, real nice Christmas present.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:29 PM

View Postcoastie65, on 25 December 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

The only image you should get is the ASUS splash screen as that means the MOBO is posting. It sounds as if it may not be posting. Try just two sticks of ram in Slots A2 & B2 ( believe those are the correct slots for a two stick configuration ). If that doesn't work, then try resetting your BiOS. Also, I am assuming you used thermal compound between the processor and heat sink. Also make sure your MOBO is sitting on the box it came in and the Video card is firmly seated in the PCIe slot. The Mounting bracket for the Video card has to hang over the edge of the box to keep it from pushing the card out of the slot.

Coastie- you are correct it's not posting, but I put in the two sticks, video card is secure with the bracket off the edge of the box, yes thermal paste holds it to the CPU, it has been sitting on the box it came in, I have also been trying to be as careful as possible with touching the back of my case every five minutes or so, but I only have two cords plugged to the power supply, the motherboard power and the video card power, is that a problem, do I need CPU power or whatever? And if I do, does anyone know where the input for the cordnisnon the motherboard? Thanx for ur replys
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:31 PM

And Rommel this motherboard has a button on it that turns on the computer :)
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:33 PM

And live I tried this, and no new results, thank for trying though
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:12 AM

View PostiCobalt, on 25 December 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

View Postcoastie65, on 25 December 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

The only image you should get is the ASUS splash screen as that means the MOBO is posting. It sounds as if it may not be posting. Try just two sticks of ram in Slots A2 & B2 ( believe those are the correct slots for a two stick configuration ). If that doesn't work, then try resetting your BiOS. Also, I am assuming you used thermal compound between the processor and heat sink. Also make sure your MOBO is sitting on the box it came in and the Video card is firmly seated in the PCIe slot. The Mounting bracket for the Video card has to hang over the edge of the box to keep it from pushing the card out of the slot.

Coastie- you are correct it's not posting, but I put in the two sticks, video card is secure with the bracket off the edge of the box, yes thermal paste holds it to the CPU, it has been sitting on the box it came in, I have also been trying to be as careful as possible with touching the back of my case every five minutes or so, but I only have two cords plugged to the power supply, the motherboard power and the video card power, is that a problem, do I need CPU power or whatever? And if I do, does anyone know where the input for the cordnisnon the motherboard? Thanx for ur replys


Yes, you need to plug the 4 pin cpu connector in.
You didn't mention the cpu fan ( unless I missed it ) but that needs installed and plugged in also.

Looking at the image gallery at newegg.com, it points to an 8 pin.
Eigther way, you need the cpu plug connected.

Not sure of your last question but I think you are unsure of the location for the cpu power plug.

this link, http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131760 is to your mobo gallery at newegg.
It points to the location, top of mobo and to the left of cpu.

Not be a wise guy, but your motherboard book will point that out.
Asus is my first choice in motherboards and I have found their manual more detailed then other brands I've purchased.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:30 AM

View PostiCobalt, on 25 December 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

And Rommel this motherboard has a button on it that turns on the computer :)


OK, I'm still a bit confused.

Are you saying this mobo has an independant button on it where you by-pass the two pins that need shorted when the case button is pushed???

If not, the power up pins need shorted, and remain shorted, for the pc to power on.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:48 AM

View PostiCobalt, on 25 December 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

View Postcoastie65, on 25 December 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

The only image you should get is the ASUS splash screen as that means the MOBO is posting. It sounds as if it may not be posting. Try just two sticks of ram in Slots A2 & B2 ( believe those are the correct slots for a two stick configuration ). If that doesn't work, then try resetting your BiOS. Also, I am assuming you used thermal compound between the processor and heat sink. Also make sure your MOBO is sitting on the box it came in and the Video card is firmly seated in the PCIe slot. The Mounting bracket for the Video card has to hang over the edge of the box to keep it from pushing the card out of the slot.

Coastie- you are correct it's not posting, but I put in the two sticks, video card is secure with the bracket off the edge of the box, yes thermal paste holds it to the CPU, it has been sitting on the box it came in, I have also been trying to be as careful as possible with touching the back of my case every five minutes or so, but I only have two cords plugged to the power supply, the motherboard power and the video card power, is that a problem, do I need CPU power or whatever? And if I do, does anyone know where the input for the cordnisnon the motherboard? Thanx for ur replys


Ok, you do need two cables from the PSU connected, the 8 pin cpu connector as well as the 24 pin ATX connector at that point. The 24 Pin ATX connector is fairly obvious. The 8 Pin CPU connector should be up around the socket. On my ASUS board, it is above and towards the rear of the case. Also make sure that with the CPU you are usung the right cable and not the PCIe cable ( although they are usually marked and 6pin + 2 pin ). The CPU cable may actually be 4 + 4 ( black & yellow wires ). For the purpose of testing, you only need to plug in 4 pins.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:12 AM

View PostRommel, on 26 December 2011 - 06:30 AM, said:

View PostiCobalt, on 25 December 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

And Rommel this motherboard has a button on it that turns on the computer :)


OK, I'm still a bit confused.

Are you saying this mobo has an independant button on it where you by-pass the two pins that need shorted when the case button is pushed???

If not, the power up pins need shorted, and remain shorted, for the pc to power on.

Most premium motherboards now come with a Power, reset, and Clear CMOS button on the board so you can test, and overclock easier without a case. This is used by those using extreme cooling solutions primarily, but also help when troubleshooting.

Also, that two pin short only has be done for about 2 seconds, then you can remove the short.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:59 AM

OK I HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE CASE, BUT When I turn it on, all the fans come on, but no beeping from the Mobo speaker, and the debug number has stayed at 00, and still no display on screen, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!?
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:59 AM

View Postwaldojim, on 26 December 2011 - 11:12 AM, said:

View PostRommel, on 26 December 2011 - 06:30 AM, said:

View PostiCobalt, on 25 December 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

And Rommel this motherboard has a button on it that turns on the computer :)


OK, I'm still a bit confused.

Are you saying this mobo has an independant button on it where you by-pass the two pins that need shorted when the case button is pushed???

If not, the power up pins need shorted, and remain shorted, for the pc to power on.

Most premium motherboards now come with a Power, reset, and Clear CMOS button on the board so you can test, and overclock easier without a case. This is used by those using extreme cooling solutions primarily, but also help when troubleshooting.

Also, that two pin short only has be done for about 2 seconds, then you can remove the short.


Thank you WJ for the clear explaination about the start button.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 12:37 PM

Have you tried booting it with the motherboard outside of the case, on a non-conductive surface?

I imagine you only need to short the pins for half a second, given that's how long you probably push the power button for and all it does is short those pins.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

View PostLiveBrianD, on 26 December 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

Have you tried booting it with the motherboard outside of the case, on a non-conductive surface?

I imagine you only need to short the pins for half a second, given that's how long you probably push the power button for and all it does is short those pins.

Yes i tried this before i hooked everything up in the case, but still nothing, Im desperate
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:08 PM

Do you have a spare power supply lying around that you can test with?
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:16 PM

no i do not :/
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:23 PM

In that case, do you have a multimeter? Find a molex connector.
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:33 PM

View PostiCobalt, on 26 December 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

no i do not :/


Sorry to hear this is still on going.
I had a corsair PSU that after 3 wks wouldn't boot when plugged into my 5770 but would but using onboard video.

When the pc tried to boot it went into what looks like sleep mode.

Dumb question, but you do have both 6 pin connectors feeding power to the VC card?

I agree with Brian that a PSU test would be a great place to check.
Borrow one from work or from a buddy if you can.

For the heck of it, try the other DVI if you haven't already.
If that fails, use an HDMI and try a TV..
If those failed you ruled out the monitor and the DVI cable.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 03:54 PM

OK, first make sure everything you absolutely don't need to do a post-check is disconnected. Since you have the display on the board, remove your video card, your ram, everything except the processor and heatsink. Connect the 8 pin and 24 pin ATX power connections on the motherboard. Try powering on like that, and see what your diagnostics code returns. It SHOULD return a code for no RAM. If it does, insert ONE stick of ram, and try again. You SHOULD return a no video adapter code. If you do NOT return a no ram code, take out your CPU and inspect for damage, or something covering a pin. Also check the socket. If you do NOT return a missing video card code instead, then replace your ram until you do get a bad video card code.
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