[myloginname]

Hey,

We just recently moved, and I had no internet for a week. We were stuck without internet from Dec.17-Dec.23. Rogers (internet provider) said they would not be able to install it until the 23rd, which was 2 weeks from when we ordered the plan. I'm not sure why it took them so long.

My parents both need the internet, as they have work to do and run small businesses. So we had to resort to extreme measures. We took my dad's iPhone, which has a 6GB data plan, and used the personal hotspot feature on it. Using that, we connected all our PC's to the iPhone. All these laptops, running off an iPhone's 3G data.

Even then, when my dad wasn't home, we basically had no internet. So my question is, could you survive without internet. Say, for maybe a month? I know I couldn't. Aside from dying of boredom, I also wouldn't be able to complete schoolwork because most of my schoolwork requires the internet, and there were times during that week where I would stay up late at night waiting for my dad to come home from work to finish my homework.

[coastie65]

myloginname, on 26 December 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

Hey,

We just recently moved, and I had no internet for a week. We were stuck without internet from Dec.17-Dec.23. Rogers (internet provider) said they would not be able to install it until the 23rd, which was 2 weeks from when we ordered the plan. I'm not sure why it took them so long.

My parents both need the internet, as they have work to do and run small businesses. So we had to resort to extreme measures. We took my dad's iPhone, which has a 6GB data plan, and used the personal hotspot feature on it. Using that, we connected all our PC's to the iPhone. All these laptops, running off an iPhone's 3G data.

Even then, when my dad wasn't home, we basically had no internet. So my question is, could you survive without internet. Say, for maybe a month? I know I couldn't. Aside from dying of boredom, I also wouldn't be able to complete schoolwork because most of my schoolwork requires the internet, and there were times during that week where I would stay up late at night waiting for my dad to come home from work to finish my homework.

Nice work around. How would I moderate the forums without internet service ? Come to think of it, there are probably some who would welcome it.

[LiveBrianD]

Dang... I would be bored out of my mind! It amazes me how some people don't even know how to use a computer (one of my grandparents) and yet I can't live without one.

[Evildave]

I lived a long time without 'internet'.

Of course, I'd run out of money in a year or so without internet nowadays. I'd have to get some sorta 'real job'.

[Szczecinianin]

Well, I'm 36 and have had internet for less than ten years so guess I could LIVE without it. I'm not saying it doesn't mean to me at all as it does, as far as communication and world news are concerned. It also helps when I need advice, as it is with, say, IT. It's, finally, much convenient to have the world at a click and be able to tell it about many things, e.g. home country. As to WORK, yes, it would be fairly difficult today for some people without internet. Not for those at a cash register in a supermarket, though. And LiveBrianD is a typical teenager who was raised with (and by?) internet.

PS. In Poland people prepare to celebrate Sylwester as the New Years Eve is his nameday. You party that night at home, clubs, outdoor and some go to balls. And at midnight everybody drink to the new year.

[myloginname]

Szczecinianin, on 27 December 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

And LiveBrianD is a typical teenager who was raised with (and by?) internet.

By your definition of teenager, I would not even be considered one yet. And one thing that I can tell you, is that most teenagers these days could not live without Facebook, never mind the internet.

This post has been edited by myloginname: 27 December 2011 - 10:00 AM

[LiveBrianD]

Szczecinianin, on 27 December 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

Well, I'm 36 and have had internet for less than ten years so guess I could LIVE without it. I'm not saying it doesn't mean to me at all as it does, as far as communication and world news are concerned. It also helps when I need advice, as it is with, say, IT. It's, finally, much convenient to have the world at a click and be able to tell it about many things, e.g. home country. As to WORK, yes, it would be fairly difficult today for some people without internet. Not for those at a cash register in a supermarket, though. And LiveBrianD is a typical teenager who was raised with (and by?) internet.

Yeah I pretty much was raised with internet. Nowadays, quite a bit of homework involves the internet (ex. you need to look up an article, and write something about it). Oddly enough, I stuck with W2K until 2007 or 2008, when I finally got XP. I've probably had windows 7 for as long as I've had XP by now... (at some point in 08 or 09, I got vista, but downgraded to XP after a few months because my P4 machine couldn't handle it well).

myloginname, on 27 December 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

By your definition of teenager, I would not even be considered one yet. And one thing that I can tell you, is that most teenagers these days could not live without Facebook, never mind the internet.

Actually, I think facebook is incredibly stupid, and trusting them with a ton of personal information is just a disaster waiting to happen (btw I also block online trackers). It's a waste of time, and I've heard of employers, banks, etc looking at facebook profiles, and as a result it can hurt you (ex. not getting a job or a loan from them...). I never understood the point of it. I have a FB account, under a fake name, and I never use it. I decided it was useless VERY quickly.

[mjd420nova]

OOHH NNOOO. Joking, I could live without it. But I'm not to sure my kids could. I made a couple monsters. As long as I have a twisted pair, I could subsist. I also think it might be one of the only infrastructures that could withstand any major event. Moving to a remote location where no contact of any kind is possible could lead to a hobby mania but that could be managed. I just need a landline. Coastie, I'm not really sure the rest of the world would react as you and I, but it has certainly brought out a lot of evil and a whole new way for crooks to steal.

This post has been edited by mjd420nova: 27 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

[crazy4laptops]

I could live without it... I've done it before in 2 week spreads on an Alaskan cruise and one in the British Virgin islands...

Sure yes, electronic messaging makes it more fun to tell friends about the adventures taking place but I can always tell them in-person afterwards. It's not a big deal, I can live without internet, it's just harder to go without when I'm not doing something else... (studying, sailing, hanging out, etc.)

[myloginname]

LiveBrianD, on 27 December 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

Szczecinianin, on 27 December 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

Well, I'm 36 and have had internet for less than ten years so guess I could LIVE without it. I'm not saying it doesn't mean to me at all as it does, as far as communication and world news are concerned. It also helps when I need advice, as it is with, say, IT. It's, finally, much convenient to have the world at a click and be able to tell it about many things, e.g. home country. As to WORK, yes, it would be fairly difficult today for some people without internet. Not for those at a cash register in a supermarket, though. And LiveBrianD is a typical teenager who was raised with (and by?) internet.

Yeah I pretty much was raised with internet. Nowadays, quite a bit of homework involves the internet (ex. you need to look up an article, and write something about it). Oddly enough, I stuck with W2K until 2007 or 2008, when I finally got XP. I've probably had windows 7 for as long as I've had XP by now... (at some point in 08 or 09, I got vista, but downgraded to XP after a few months because my P4 machine couldn't handle it well).

myloginname, on 27 December 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

By your definition of teenager, I would not even be considered one yet. And one thing that I can tell you, is that most teenagers these days could not live without Facebook, never mind the internet.

Actually, I think facebook is incredibly stupid, and trusting them with a ton of personal information is just a disaster waiting to happen (btw I also block online trackers). It's a waste of time, and I've heard of employers, banks, etc looking at facebook profiles, and as a result it can hurt you (ex. not getting a job or a loan from them...). I never understood the point of it. I have a FB account, under a fake name, and I never use it. I decided it was useless VERY quickly.

Yeah It is true, they actually do check for your facebook accounts when you are applying for a job, though I still do have one and use it mainly to talk with my friends and such, usually just to see whats going on and sometimes it comes in handy with homework. I'm not addicted to facebook like some of my friends

crazy4laptops, on 27 December 2011 - 03:00 PM, said:

I could live without it... I've done it before in 2 week spreads on an Alaskan cruise and one in the British Virgin islands...

Sure yes, electronic messaging makes it more fun to tell friends about the adventures taking place but I can always tell them in-person afterwards. It's not a big deal, I can live without internet, it's just harder to go without when I'm not doing something else... (studying, sailing, hanging out, etc.)

Yeah I've done that before to, but on an everyday basis? I really don't think that a would be realistic. Even if I didn't get bored, there are still so many things that you use the internet for without realizing it. Take e-mail, for example. Nowadays if you aren't organized with your e-mail, companies will not hire you. If you have hundreds of unread of e-mails, or even worse, no e-mail at all, you have basically no chance of getting a decent job (well maybe a few odd jobs)

P.S. I should of made a poll. Oh well

[LiveBrianD]

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Yeah It is true, they actually do check for your facebook accounts when you are applying for a job, though I still do have one and use it mainly to talk with my friends and such, usually just to see whats going on and sometimes it comes in handy with homework. I'm not addicted to facebook like some of my friends

But what if some idiot creates a fake facebook account for you? Or they mistake someone else's FB account for yours?

[myloginname]

LiveBrianD, on 27 December 2011 - 09:53 PM, said:

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Yeah It is true, they actually do check for your facebook accounts when you are applying for a job, though I still do have one and use it mainly to talk with my friends and such, usually just to see whats going on and sometimes it comes in handy with homework. I'm not addicted to facebook like some of my friends

But what if some idiot creates a fake facebook account for you? Or they mistake someone else's FB account for yours?

I remember we actually invited some police program to talk about drugs and the instructor mentioned this. To tell you the truth it was really really long and I wasn't really paying attention, but this part I remember. She said that they will ask you if you have a Facebook account, ask for your e-mail, and search up your name. With e-mail it's easy to tell if it is you or not. Sometimes they'll have you login as well to see your recent activity and such.

I've searched up my name before there are hundreds of results, and my name isn't common but isn't rare, so it would take a long time to find without searching with e-mail.

I do think there is an option to make yourself private from the public so that you don't appear in searches, and you could just lie and say you don't have Facebook, but I'm pretty sure large companies have other ways of finding out.

[LiveBrianD]

myloginname, on 28 December 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 27 December 2011 - 09:53 PM, said:

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Yeah It is true, they actually do check for your facebook accounts when you are applying for a job, though I still do have one and use it mainly to talk with my friends and such, usually just to see whats going on and sometimes it comes in handy with homework. I'm not addicted to facebook like some of my friends

But what if some idiot creates a fake facebook account for you? Or they mistake someone else's FB account for yours?

I remember we actually invited some police program to talk about drugs and the instructor mentioned this. To tell you the truth it was really really long and I wasn't really paying attention, but this part I remember. She said that they will ask you if you have a Facebook account, ask for your e-mail, and search up your name. With e-mail it's easy to tell if it is you or not. Sometimes they'll have you login as well to see your recent activity and such.

I've searched up my name before there are hundreds of results, and my name isn't common but isn't rare, so it would take a long time to find without searching with e-mail.

I do think there is an option to make yourself private from the public so that you don't appear in searches, and you could just lie and say you don't have Facebook, but I'm pretty sure large companies have other ways of finding out.

But how would they do that? And isn't there quite a chance of making a mistake and falsely denying you a job because of someone else's FB profile?

[myloginname]

LiveBrianD, on 28 December 2011 - 06:10 PM, said:

myloginname, on 28 December 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 27 December 2011 - 09:53 PM, said:

Quote

Yeah It is true, they actually do check for your facebook accounts when you are applying for a job, though I still do have one and use it mainly to talk with my friends and such, usually just to see whats going on and sometimes it comes in handy with homework. I'm not addicted to facebook like some of my friends

But what if some idiot creates a fake facebook account for you? Or they mistake someone else's FB account for yours?

I remember we actually invited some police program to talk about drugs and the instructor mentioned this. To tell you the truth it was really really long and I wasn't really paying attention, but this part I remember. She said that they will ask you if you have a Facebook account, ask for your e-mail, and search up your name. With e-mail it's easy to tell if it is you or not. Sometimes they'll have you login as well to see your recent activity and such.

I've searched up my name before there are hundreds of results, and my name isn't common but isn't rare, so it would take a long time to find without searching with e-mail.

I do think there is an option to make yourself private from the public so that you don't appear in searches, and you could just lie and say you don't have Facebook, but I'm pretty sure large companies have other ways of finding out.

But how would they do that? And isn't there quite a chance of making a mistake and falsely denying you a job because of someone else's FB profile?

If you are going to lie about your own e-mail, or your own Facebook, then do you deserve the job? They would be assuming you have the honesty at least to say if you have a Facebook account and give the right e-mail that is associated with it.

[LiveBrianD]

myloginname, on 28 December 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

If you are going to lie about your own e-mail, or your own Facebook, then do you deserve the job? They would be assuming you have the honesty at least to say if you have a Facebook account and give the right e-mail that is associated with it.

True...
Darn! I just noticed that my FB account (which I gave a fake name and never used) was banned a while ago... I was going to use it to look up myself to see if any of the morons at school had created a FB account for me.

[waldojim]

myloginname, on 28 December 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

If you are going to lie about your own e-mail, or your own Facebook, then do you deserve the job? They would be assuming you have the honesty at least to say if you have a Facebook account and give the right e-mail that is associated with it.

If I choose to lie about my personal life, Oh well. You don't need to know, and I have the right to withhold it.

[myloginname]

waldojim, on 28 December 2011 - 07:03 PM, said:

myloginname, on 28 December 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

If you are going to lie about your own e-mail, or your own Facebook, then do you deserve the job? They would be assuming you have the honesty at least to say if you have a Facebook account and give the right e-mail that is associated with it.

If I choose to lie about my personal life, Oh well. You don't need to know, and I have the right to withhold it.

That's true. You can choose to do that. Then again, they can choose to not give you the job.

[coastie65]

mjd420nova, on 27 December 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

OOHH NNOOO. Joking, I could live without it. But I'm not to sure my kids could. I made a couple monsters. As long as I have a twisted pair, I could subsist. I also think it might be one of the only infrastructures that could withstand any major event. Moving to a remote location where no contact of any kind is possible could lead to a hobby mania but that could be managed. I just need a landline. Coastie, I'm not really sure the rest of the world would react as you and I, but it has certainly brought out a lot of evil and a whole new way for crooks to steal.

Shoot kids these days would lost without all the gadgets. Heck I remember the days before pocket calculators. The kids taking advanced math courses such as Trig, used slide rules to figure out the calculations. I remember figuring out square roots without the benefit of anything, just what I learned. These days. all they do is teach you how you use the tools. What kind of education is that? I realize that these days you have to be computer literate, but not at the expense of a true education. By using computers for math problems for instance, you get no background in the actual problem solving method. The Middle & High schools in this County issue Dell Laptops to each student at the beginning of the school year. Without the internet, I would be forced to actually have to fight the people and shop in Brick & Mortar stores. I do go to the Grocery Store, Doctors appointments, and the Barbershop. Although i can keep up with current events on the internet, I also get a newspaper ( have to feed my crossword addiction as well ). To add a little annecdote here, I rarely took notes in class, but did pay attention to what was being said ( even if it was boring ). I had an ability to take it in and recall it. I can remember many times when the teacher thought I was daydreaming and would suddenly call on me and ask me what she or he just said about so and so and I would tell her or him. Now I had some History teahers who were WWII vets and they could really make history interesting, especially when we got to WWII, as then their personal experiences came into play. Yeah, it is a lot different today, but I can't say that it is better.

[mjd420nova]

The days of the "slip stick" are over and most students who used it became pretty proficient. Dislexia caused misplacement of the decimal place. ADD has highlighted certain faults as a result. One I have had contact with is when asked to di an addition problem in their head, the result was often one high or one low from correct. This was consistant and detectable as early as seven years old. I once took a class where the instructor would talk one chapter and put another on a chalk board. A tape recorder(new in 1967) was strange but it helped me transpose the notes and ace the final. My first handheld computer was really a programmable calculator. I think it was a TI-30. Not sure, gone to the recycle bin eons ago. I think it was 1975 as I used it to calculate exposure times for a darkroom photographic enlarger. Still had the mechanical timer as digital units were another two years away. In 1980 we carried small pocketwatch sized exposure calculators for nuclear workers.

[LiveBrianD]

mjd420nova, on 29 December 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:

The days of the "slip stick" are over and most students who used it became pretty proficient. Dislexia caused misplacement of the decimal place. ADD has highlighted certain faults as a result. One I have had contact with is when asked to di an addition problem in their head, the result was often one high or one low from correct. This was consistant and detectable as early as seven years old. I once took a class where the instructor would talk one chapter and put another on a chalk board. A tape recorder(new in 1967) was strange but it helped me transpose the notes and ace the final. My first handheld computer was really a programmable calculator. I think it was a TI-30. Not sure, gone to the recycle bin eons ago. I think it was 1975 as I used it to calculate exposure times for a darkroom photographic enlarger. Still had the mechanical timer as digital units were another two years away. In 1980 we carried small pocketwatch sized exposure calculators for nuclear workers.

Calculators nowadays are from the MS-DOS era it seems. My TI-84 silver, the top model, has a MASSIVE 1.5MB of memory! Yes, one point five MEGABYTES! A tiny bit less than the 1TB hard drives you can get nowadays and 16GB SDHC cards, but still... they're also rather fat, and have B/W screens. The lower-end TI-83 has 300KB or so of memory. I'm not joking! I made a few programs with if statements and such on my calculator, and upon removing the battery, somehow it all got removed.