[waldojim]

anthonydagostino, on 22 January 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Well thanks for the added info, I am new to this forum, but have been on overclockers, and several others for some time. I read about the SLI needing matched cards years ago, and if that has changed, that is new to me. I know you can have different brands, but they have to be the same series....i.e. 480, 260, or going back 8800's. You would have to buy two 8800's, brand not important, to run them in SLI. Is this not true?

Just a bit of trivia here, if you go back far enough, the cards all had to be the same brand and rock the same bios. As I recall, this was the issue with the early 6xxx series, and 7xxx series. This caused quite a stir as even the 'original' SLI cards didn't have this requirement: IE the Voodoo 2 1000's. But yes, you are correct.

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As for the 550, I was not talking about the GTX version, the one's I bought were ASUS 550ti-cu models, not a g anywhere in the name. They are making things very confusing these days, and impossible to understand with all the model numbers, prefixes and suffixes. You have to do a lot of research to know exactly what you are getting. The info on the 550ti came from tom's hardware I believe....but I might be mistaken on that.

The 550-Ti is part of the GTX lineup. The 540 and lower are all GT (This is from memory, please don't kill me ). Nvidia uses the GT/GTX as a generic way of saying that the GT is for non-enthusiasts, and GTX is.

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Thanks for the compliment, I have been wanting to build this for a long time. I would of loved to have gone with the "k" processor, but could not justify it, since I don't plan to overclock, and really see no need. Also, would have preferred a board with 6 or even 8 memory slots, but again, more overkill. 16gig of ram is plenty, since I do run 64bit, and a lot of 64bit programs, it does help. I just hope they start making more 64bit games, but being in the Philippines, games are impossible to find, that are not counterfeit, and most of those contain viruses. So the ups and downs of living in the Philippines are many, but the ups win, over and over again.

PS, I wanted to use my military call sign for my user ID, but the system won't allow me to change it. I tried signing up using my call sign, and could not get past the register screen. So I finally used my gmail account to sign up/in. Can you see if stalker6recon is an active account? That would be mine, and I only created it today, I would like to merge or delete it, so I can change my user name to stalker6recon on this profile. Thanks in advance, Anthony.

As for the games, have you tried buying off Steam? I am not sure if Steam is licensing games to the Philippines or not, but they do often run specials, and I end up buying MANY games. Even games I never bother to play.

[anthonydagostino]

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

MLStrand56, on 21 January 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Holy Christ, waldojim, What kind of internet connection do you have? I'd straight-up screwdriver-kill an old lady to get that kind of speed. My Philippine DSL is 220Kbs Down & 290Kbs Up. That's a Private DSL connection, meaning that I'm the ONLY user. "Regular" DSL here is like the old Party-Line phones in USA. There is ONE DSL line & everybody (including all the internet cafes) gets a tiny bit of the pipe. I had that kind of DSL when I first came to Phils. Every school day I always knew when school let out, because all the school kids would hit the internet cafes to play World of Warcraft. When that happened my data rate went straight to 10BITs/sec (.010Kbs). At that speed Every webpage took 60-90 minutes to DL.

There is 3Mbs (512Kbs Guaranteed) DSL avail. here, but it's 3,000 Peso ($72)/month!!! My 220Kbs DSL is only 995 Peso ($24)/month.

MLStrand56

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

When I was still living in the states, I was using comcast in Sterling Virginia, and I would get readings of 25-30mbs on speedtest.net....if my memory is working.....I know the speed is accurate, but the carrier and the site may be mixed. MLstrand and I are now in the same boat, I would be better off, typing out my bit-stream, paying a local boy, to carry it by ox over the mountains, and send it vie morse code........Cheers, Anthony.....man I miss the US internet speeds.

By the way, it was an all fiber network, to the house......I would think that every sub-urban area has gone to fiber. MLstrand and I both use microwave, land based (line of site) systems, with the cellphone network as our link to the net....and it SUCKS..........

[coastie65]

anthonydagostino, on 22 January 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

MLStrand56, on 21 January 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Holy Christ, waldojim, What kind of internet connection do you have? I'd straight-up screwdriver-kill an old lady to get that kind of speed. My Philippine DSL is 220Kbs Down & 290Kbs Up. That's a Private DSL connection, meaning that I'm the ONLY user. "Regular" DSL here is like the old Party-Line phones in USA. There is ONE DSL line & everybody (including all the internet cafes) gets a tiny bit of the pipe. I had that kind of DSL when I first came to Phils. Every school day I always knew when school let out, because all the school kids would hit the internet cafes to play World of Warcraft. When that happened my data rate went straight to 10BITs/sec (.010Kbs). At that speed Every webpage took 60-90 minutes to DL.

There is 3Mbs (512Kbs Guaranteed) DSL avail. here, but it's 3,000 Peso ($72)/month!!! My 220Kbs DSL is only 995 Peso ($24)/month.

MLStrand56

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

When I was still living in the states, I was using comcast in Sterling Virginia, and I would get readings of 25-30mbs on speedtest.net....if my memory is working.....I know the speed is accurate, but the carrier and the site may be mixed. MLstrand and I are now in the same boat, I would be better off, typing out my bit-stream, paying a local boy, to carry it by ox over the mountains, and send it vie morse code........Cheers, Anthony.....man I miss the US internet speeds.

By the way, it was an all fiber network, to the house......I would think that every sub-urban area has gone to fiber. MLstrand and I both use microwave, land based (line of site) systems, with the cellphone network as our link to the net....and it SUCKS..........

If you were up in Sterling then in all probability, you had Verizon FiOS as that is Fiber ( Comcast doest have Fiber ). Incidently for those who didn't know the Philippine currency is the Peso ( the exchange rate was 4 Pesos = 1 USD when I was there; Subic Bay ).

[anthonydagostino]

coastie65, on 22 January 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

anthonydagostino, on 22 January 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

MLStrand56, on 21 January 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Holy Christ, waldojim, What kind of internet connection do you have? I'd straight-up screwdriver-kill an old lady to get that kind of speed. My Philippine DSL is 220Kbs Down & 290Kbs Up. That's a Private DSL connection, meaning that I'm the ONLY user. "Regular" DSL here is like the old Party-Line phones in USA. There is ONE DSL line & everybody (including all the internet cafes) gets a tiny bit of the pipe. I had that kind of DSL when I first came to Phils. Every school day I always knew when school let out, because all the school kids would hit the internet cafes to play World of Warcraft. When that happened my data rate went straight to 10BITs/sec (.010Kbs). At that speed Every webpage took 60-90 minutes to DL.

There is 3Mbs (512Kbs Guaranteed) DSL avail. here, but it's 3,000 Peso ($72)/month!!! My 220Kbs DSL is only 995 Peso ($24)/month.

MLStrand56

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

When I was still living in the states, I was using comcast in Sterling Virginia, and I would get readings of 25-30mbs on speedtest.net....if my memory is working.....I know the speed is accurate, but the carrier and the site may be mixed. MLstrand and I are now in the same boat, I would be better off, typing out my bit-stream, paying a local boy, to carry it by ox over the mountains, and send it vie morse code........Cheers, Anthony.....man I miss the US internet speeds.

By the way, it was an all fiber network, to the house......I would think that every sub-urban area has gone to fiber. MLstrand and I both use microwave, land based (line of site) systems, with the cellphone network as our link to the net....and it SUCKS..........

If you were up in Sterling then in all probability, you had Verizon FiOS as that is Fiber ( Comcast doest have Fiber ). Incidently for those who didn't know the Philippine currency is the Peso ( the exchange rate was 4 Pesos = 1 USD when I was there; Subic Bay ).

Holy cripes, 4, as in FOUR pesos? That must of sucked.......when I first came here, it was about 42, went to 50 for about a minute one time in 2008, now it is hovering in the low 40's again. You must have served, Navy or Marine's? Thanks for your service, in advance........Anthony

[anthonydagostino]

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

anthonydagostino, on 22 January 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Well thanks for the added info, I am new to this forum, but have been on overclockers, and several others for some time. I read about the SLI needing matched cards years ago, and if that has changed, that is new to me. I know you can have different brands, but they have to be the same series....i.e. 480, 260, or going back 8800's. You would have to buy two 8800's, brand not important, to run them in SLI. Is this not true?

Just a bit of trivia here, if you go back far enough, the cards all had to be the same brand and rock the same bios. As I recall, this was the issue with the early 6xxx series, and 7xxx series. This caused quite a stir as even the 'original' SLI cards didn't have this requirement: IE the Voodoo 2 1000's. But yes, you are correct.

Quote

As for the 550, I was not talking about the GTX version, the one's I bought were ASUS 550ti-cu models, not a g anywhere in the name. They are making things very confusing these days, and impossible to understand with all the model numbers, prefixes and suffixes. You have to do a lot of research to know exactly what you are getting. The info on the 550ti came from tom's hardware I believe....but I might be mistaken on that.

The 550-Ti is part of the GTX lineup. The 540 and lower are all GT (This is from memory, please don't kill me ). Nvidia uses the GT/GTX as a generic way of saying that the GT is for non-enthusiasts, and GTX is.

Quote

Thanks for the compliment, I have been wanting to build this for a long time. I would of loved to have gone with the "k" processor, but could not justify it, since I don't plan to overclock, and really see no need. Also, would have preferred a board with 6 or even 8 memory slots, but again, more overkill. 16gig of ram is plenty, since I do run 64bit, and a lot of 64bit programs, it does help. I just hope they start making more 64bit games, but being in the Philippines, games are impossible to find, that are not counterfeit, and most of those contain viruses. So the ups and downs of living in the Philippines are many, but the ups win, over and over again.

PS, I wanted to use my military call sign for my user ID, but the system won't allow me to change it. I tried signing up using my call sign, and could not get past the register screen. So I finally used my gmail account to sign up/in. Can you see if stalker6recon is an active account? That would be mine, and I only created it today, I would like to merge or delete it, so I can change my user name to stalker6recon on this profile. Thanks in advance, Anthony.

As for the games, have you tried buying off Steam? I am not sure if Steam is licensing games to the Philippines or not, but they do often run specials, and I end up buying MANY games. Even games I never bother to play.

Now see that IS EXACTLY what these forums are for........good information, sharing it, just because you can. Thanks bro, appreciate that big time. I have real versions of Half-Life, orange box, that I can't wait to install, I know that is an older game, but should look great on this system. I also have a real COD4, which should look fine as well. The Crisis I have, is from the Philippines, and it is the last game I played on my EVGA 680i before it went belly up. And it may have been that game that killed it, not so sure.


I used to have two 7900GS in the EVGA, then went to one 9600GT, and what a difference that made, until system failure, the GREAT BIG BLUE SCREEN OF NEVER WORKING AGAIN DEATH........I am still waiting on the second card from the states, and when I have everything I want (extra fans, more front bays), I will pull everything out, and rebuild it to my exacting details. I used to install networks, and pipe in thousands of network cables, so I don't like messy cables in my case. Once it is verified that everything is 100% go, then I rebuild very clean. The system runs great now, with only one card, but I need all new SATA cables with 6GB transfer rates, not that I will ever see those speeds using platters, but I still want the fastest rates possible.

The HAF-X is so good at hiding cables, but the Cougar PSU has such nice looking wraps, that I would rather pipe them, than hide them behind the mobo. Maybe I am just old school, piping is much more fun than hiding wires behind grommets and trap doors.


I love steam, in the past, with the new system of calling home, and mandated updates, in the gigbytes by now for OrangeBox, I don't look forward to buying anything else from them, again, with our internet connection being so slow, but if that is what I have to do, then I will. I don't need viruses messing up years of music and movie collecting. Even though I keep them separate from the program drives, and on portable drives, I just don't want to risk it.

[MLStrand56]

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

OK, educate me? I thought your Data Trasfer Rate was set by your ISP, not your modem (assuming an up to date LAN controller). Now I gotta Scroogle LTE modems. Won't help me here, but knowledge is Always good.

MLStrand56

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

But the data caps...

[LiveBrianD]

anthonydagostino, on 22 January 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

The HAF-X is so good at hiding cables, but the Cougar PSU has such nice looking wraps, that I would rather pipe them, than hide them behind the mobo. Maybe I am just old school, piping is much more fun than hiding wires behind grommets and trap doors.

I didn't bother too much with cable management here. I have an Antec 300 case and Seasonic S12II 520W PSU, and the cables are reasonably long for a bottom-mounted PSU case, overkill for top-mounted. (the motherboard connector is 550mm or so I think) This has a little compartment to the side of the 3.5" hard drive bays, and I can shove all the spare wires in there to get them out of my way. It's a little messy, but I don't have a side-window or anything, and airflow is fine, so it doesn't matter. (the entire front of the case, where 3.5" hard drives are, has a mesh intake grilll)

[LiveBrianD]

MLStrand56, on 22 January 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

OK, educate me? I thought your Data Trasfer Rate was set by your ISP, not your modem (assuming an up to date LAN controller). Now I gotta Scroogle LTE modems. Won't help me here, but knowledge is Always good.

MLStrand56

It is. However, a bad modem can bottleneck connection speeds.

[MLStrand56]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

It is. However, a bad modem can bottleneck connection speeds.

Well, I can't do anything about my modem. My DSL is wireless. Not the comomon USB wireless though. Mine has an antenna on the roof, that shoots to a cell tower. The output of the antenna plugs directly into the LAN port on my mobo. I've never seen anything like this in USA. The good thing about this system, is that I'm the sole user of this DSL connection. I couldn't get DSL in USA (only dial up & eventually Cable), so I don't know how DSL works there.

MLStrand56

[anthonydagostino]

MLStrand56, on 23 January 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

It is. However, a bad modem can bottleneck connection speeds.

Well, I can't do anything about my modem. My DSL is wireless. Not the comomon USB wireless though. Mine has an antenna on the roof, that shoots to a cell tower. The output of the antenna plugs directly into the LAN port on my mobo. I've never seen anything like this in USA. The good thing about this system, is that I'm the sole user of this DSL connection. I couldn't get DSL in USA (only dial up & eventually Cable), so I don't know how DSL works there.

MLStrand56

What we have is not really DSL (digital subscriber line). DSL has rules, 15 hundred meters from the nearest relay, and copper all the way, something like that. Been a long time since I worked at BellSouth, and we had already gone past DSL to fiber. The system we use, is ground based, microwave, and the antenna is a planar transmitter and receiver. It goes to the Cell tower, but might operate independently from the cell system....really don't know. All I do know is that it sucks, and we have fiber all over the place, but they don't know how to use it, or more importantly, maintain it. Getting fiber spliced, may have changed since my days of single-mode/multimode fiber installation, but back in the day, we had to use like a tiny nuclear reactor to splice to fibers together. Who knows what they use today.

Anyway, internet in the Philippines sucks, and will continue to do so, for the next, 50 or 60 years......at least in Ormoc.

[waldojim]

MLStrand56, on 22 January 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

OK, educate me? I thought your Data Trasfer Rate was set by your ISP, not your modem (assuming an up to date LAN controller). Now I gotta Scroogle LTE modems. Won't help me here, but knowledge is Always good.

MLStrand56

There is a vast difference in modems when dealing with wireless radio. Understanding that LTE has many different transmission modes depending on signal quality. With a quality transceiver, and a solid multi-mode antenna, you can achieve speeds that cheaper radios with a single antenna cannot.

LTE in full speed multimode is capable of close to 40Mb/sec

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

But the data caps...

10GB is plenty for a few rounds of CoD. And more than plenty for the forums.

[waldojim]

anthonydagostino, on 23 January 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

What we have is not really DSL (digital subscriber line). DSL has rules, 15 hundred meters from the nearest relay, and copper all the way, something like that. Been a long time since I worked at BellSouth, and we had already gone past DSL to fiber. The system we use, is ground based, microwave, and the antenna is a planar transmitter and receiver. It goes to the Cell tower, but might operate independently from the cell system....really don't know. All I do know is that it sucks, and we have fiber all over the place, but they don't know how to use it, or more importantly, maintain it. Getting fiber spliced, may have changed since my days of single-mode/multimode fiber installation, but back in the day, we had to use like a tiny nuclear reactor to splice to fibers together. Who knows what they use today.

Anyway, internet in the Philippines sucks, and will continue to do so, for the next, 50 or 60 years......at least in Ormoc.

Nah - DSL was unfortunately falsly attributed to aDSL. ADSL is it's own very specific form of DSL with its own limitations. SDSL, XDSL, and HDSL all have different characteristics.

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 25 January 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

waldojim, on 22 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

That internet connection in my sig is an LTE modem. Yes, LTE is really that fast. Hence the reason I put it there. The connection is freaking insane.

But the data caps...

10GB is plenty for a few rounds of CoD. And more than plenty for the forums.

So you aren't steaming anything then, right?

[waldojim]

Nope, all of my streaming content is being done to my phone. The phone has unlimited data, and can maintain a decent enough signal for Netflix.

[Skaterninja25]

waldojim, on 21 January 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

Oh and Snyper is right, that second card isn't going to do a lick of good for your friend. Tell him to enjoy the added cost on his electric bill though.

6970s are 2gb cards so he must not have them but yes. my electric bill went up from these haha about 15 bucks more a month

[anthonydagostino]

Skaterninja25, on 26 January 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

waldojim, on 21 January 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

Oh and Snyper is right, that second card isn't going to do a lick of good for your friend. Tell him to enjoy the added cost on his electric bill though.

6970s are 2gb cards so he must not have them but yes. my electric bill went up from these haha about 15 bucks more a month

What a minute, who are you talking about? Who must not have them? If you are talking about me, I guess you did not bother to read my specs, and when I finish the build I will post photo's, so all the people on here, were lousy attitudes, can see exactly what I am TALKING ABOUT. I do have 2x2GB Sapphire Radeon HD6970. One in the case already, the other is on the way from the US. And again, your bill jumped by 15 dollars, mine will jump by 100 pesos, about 2 dollars and some change.

So get your giggle all you want, and again, READ MY SPECS. Skaterninja25, I said positive things about you, and your system earlier. This reply sounds condescending, and in no way adds to the conversation of the thread. I actually came back and read this, thinking that there might actually be USEFUL information waiting.....really, just more wasted time.