[LiveBrianD]

I just reapplied thermal paste to the CPU (see the thread about stuff that pisses you off). Normally, with the automatic settings and 133MHz BLCK x 20, under load CPU-Z says I have a voltage of 1.056V. I changed the BLCK to 160MHz so that the ram would run at the full 1600MHz (ram multiplier x10), and the CPU multiplier to 18. At first, it idled at 40C. I changed the CPU voltage to 1.100V (wasn't exactly sure how much to use, but give that waldojim uses 1.4V or something like that on his, I figured I was well within safe limits), and disabled v-droop correction (which the bios says makes it follow the intel spec). It now idles at 30C, and I'm running prime95 right now and getting temps of 50-52C, and it's reasonably quiet. CPU-Z says the CPU voltage is 1.040V. Now the speed is 2.88GHz. (stock 2.66GHz, 133x20) Do you guys think this is good?

Also, there's one little thing that I noticed - it is idling at 2.88GHz, and I don't know why. Normally, it idles at 9x133, aka 1.2GHz. Once I started messing with the base clock and CPU multiplier, it started running at full speed while idle. It's not a huge problem, but things are running a bit warmer than they need to while idle. Any ideas? I have turboboost enabled btw.

It is a bit annoying how I can get the CPU to run super hot at stock speed AND idle, or a bit noisy under stock speed and load, or a bit LESS noisy and yet quieter WITH some overclocking and voltage adjustment. lol... I was wondering why the reviews for this cooler said their CPUs were running at 50C under load, and mine was at 60C... only NOW I'm getting the expected temps.

I'm running prime95 right now, and am at test 9 and it hasn't given any errors. (btw if there are any errors, will they be in the text files that it's leaving in it's directory, local.txt and prime.txt? Or will it give me a dialog box?)

And while I am starting to overclock, I am NOT going to be taking my CPU to 4.2GHz! I'm ok with doing a small overclock, and I'm not comfortable with going as far as waldojim and snypertodd!

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 22 January 2012 - 02:49 PM

[LiveBrianD]

I see - it just put results.txt in its' directory.
[Sun Jan 22 14:54:16 2012]
Self-test 640K passed!
Self-test 640K passed!
Self-test 640K passed!
Self-test 640K passed!

Cool.... onto test 10 now... And it hasn't exceeded 49-51C.

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 22 January 2012 - 03:06 PM

[coastie65]

Looks good. The 920 that was in the Gateway was rated at 2.66 Ghz, but in reality was running at 2.80 Ghz at idle ( the multiplier was at 25 instead of 24 ). The 960 is running at 3.3 although rated at 3.2. I can just punch a button and get 4.4 on this one with no problem.

[LiveBrianD]

Why wasn't it idling at 1.2GHz or something like that? At least this is only running at 30C idle now (under load, I think it's actually at a slightly lower voltage than before, and therefore it's not producing any more heat).

[LiveBrianD]

I was wondering - what voltage do you actually need to keep it stable at that speed?

[waldojim]

The voltage requirements vary depending on the actual chip. For all I know, your chip may hit 4.5Ghz with 1.2V. Is it likely? Nope. But that is part of the excitement in overclocking.

As for the idle, very likely Speed Step got disabled the moment you changed FSB.

[LiveBrianD]

Hmm... t-monitor said it was running at 1.4GHz idle (9x160). Odd, but whatever... What settings are you using? I'm not looking to get 4.5GHz here (besides, my motherboard isn't the highest end, and probably wouldn't be stable with it, and my CPU cooler isn't the best one for overclocking). I'm thinking I may up it to 21x160 (3.36GHz) at some point.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 24 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Hmm... t-monitor said it was running at 1.4GHz idle (9x160). Odd, but whatever... What settings are you using? I'm not looking to get 4.5GHz here (besides, my motherboard isn't the highest end, and probably wouldn't be stable with it, and my CPU cooler isn't the best one for overclocking). I'm thinking I may up it to 21x160 (3.36GHz) at some point.

I honestly don't remember right now, and that machine is currently in a storage unit. We are in the process of moving out of our apartment, and that takes time.

[LiveBrianD]

So you finally got a house then? And you're stuck with the laptop(s)? (How many of those do you have now? Thinkpad W520, x100e, that hp 12" tablet you got from someone...)

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 24 January 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

So you finally got a house then? And you're stuck with the laptop(s)? (How many of those do you have now? Thinkpad W520, x100e, that hp 12" tablet you got from someone...)

Two IBM A21's as well.

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 25 January 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 24 January 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

So you finally got a house then? And you're stuck with the laptop(s)? (How many of those do you have now? Thinkpad W520, x100e, that hp 12" tablet you got from someone...)

Two IBM A21's as well.

lol... Is a Pentium 3 good for anything nowadays?

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 25 January 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

waldojim, on 25 January 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 24 January 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

So you finally got a house then? And you're stuck with the laptop(s)? (How many of those do you have now? Thinkpad W520, x100e, that hp 12" tablet you got from someone...)

Two IBM A21's as well.

lol... Is a Pentium 3 good for anything nowadays?

I run my WIFI cracking on them. They support my Cisco AiroNet cards which are great for wifi analyzing, and penetration testing. They are also used (on occasion) as little routers.

[LiveBrianD]

And why are you cracking wifi networks in the first place?

I have wondered - how would a machine like that, though it would need to be a desktop (you'll see why in a minute), running Windows 2000, handle as a file server (assuming you put a gigabit ethernet adapter and a usb 2 or 3 pci adapter in it and connected a terabyte or two external hard drive to it)? Would a Pentium 3 CPU bottleneck it?

[waldojim]

To answer your first question - because you have to prove to yourself weather or not it can be done. I have proven that many friends networks were not nearly as secure as they thought they were. As a result, these people reconsider how their networks are secured.

Secondly, a P3 would work just fine. Shoot, you could get away with a P233mmx if you still had one.

[LiveBrianD]

What were they using, WEP?

[waldojim]

WPA can be cracked as well. But WEP is so much fun.

In reality though, most people think that if they use MAC filtering, or don't broadcast their SSID, they are somehow protected. My IBM is used to prove those many assumptions wrong. The Cisco card supports both MAC cloning, and Promiscuous modes. So I monitor everything being transmitted on several channels for a good couple of hours, collect the necessary information to attack, clone a known good workstation MAC address, use the SSID that workstation connected to, and start the attack from there.

[LiveBrianD]

What about WPA2-AES? With a 16 char password like e^Q>TMo"Eb1-d.89? That's similar to my wireless password (randomly generated 16 characters).

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 25 January 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

What about WPA2-AES? With a 16 char password like e^Q>TMo"Eb1-d.89? That's similar to my wireless password (randomly generated 16 characters).

That is the one case that takes forever. However, that really isn't necessary either. If you use a pass-phrase with a few letters swapped out, then it will be nearly impossible for CURRENT technology to crack in a reasonable time frame.

[LiveBrianD]

Good point. My router auto-generated a password like that, so it's what I use. Besides, I live next to a bunch of single-family homes, so the neighbors don't have great reception of my network, and the people who live next to me on one side don't secure their network at all (I logged into their router configuration and found the router password was set to 'admin' or 'password', whatever the linksys default is). Right now, the house on the other side of mine is about to go up for sale and no one's living there right now. Basically, I'm probably doing this for nothing. It's not a big deal though (and I found that I can plug a keyboard into the bluray password to type things, making it even easier there).

Anyway, what if I used a WPA-TKIP password like the 16-char one mentioned above? How long would that take to crack? And would it require brute force (nearly impossible if a decent password is used)?

[waldojim]

Oh anything is possible. And today's video cards are doing nothing but getting faster. A pair of 580's could crack that in about years time give or take. An 8 character password takes less than 5 minutes to crack, and 12 less than a month.