[coastie65]

I did notice on a couple of crashes ( freeze ups ), SUPERantispyware had updated. Will be back in it in a bit and see how long I can go without problems. I have to put the disk in the drawer to start the game as i have no shortcut to do that now, but it seems to do fine since I eliminated it.

[waldojim]

I just had Skryim start crashing today... about every 5 minutes. Found out the other 5770 died today. Not sure why yet. Worry about it later...

Back on my trusty 8800GT, and still running Skryim at 1080P, ultra quality (minus the AA)Performance hasn't changed, the weak link still being the CPU.

[LiveBrianD]

So both of your 5770s are dead now? What were the temps like, and how heavy was your overclock? I'll be keeping XFX on my do-not-buy list then...

Coastie, why not just look for the file in C:\Program Files, and create a shortcut to that? I found fallout 3 didn't create a shortcut in the start menu either.

[coastie65]

LiveBrianD, on 16 February 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

So both of your 5770s are dead now? What were the temps like, and how heavy was your overclock? I'll be keeping XFX on my do-not-buy list then...

Coastie, why not just look for the file in C:\Program Files, and create a shortcut to that? I found fallout 3 didn't create a shortcut in the start menu either.

I'm able to start it ,but still haven't found the cure. Oddly enough after. I go to the task manager to end the task ( Showing as Not Running ), when i click to end the task, it briefly goes back the the apps page, a I notice two listings for Fallout3 ( both end ). There were two disks. The main game disk, then the second disk with the DLC's . Funny, I 've never had problems in the past with this thing.

[LiveBrianD]

For me, I can launch fallout 3 from
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Fallout3.exe"
No disc required. Try that.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 16 February 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

So both of your 5770s are dead now? What were the temps like, and how heavy was your overclock? I'll be keeping XFX on my do-not-buy list then...

Coastie, why not just look for the file in C:\Program Files, and create a shortcut to that? I found fallout 3 didn't create a shortcut in the start menu either.

The OC was through software, and with the recent re-installation of Windows (about 4 months ago), I didn't bother reinstalling them. So no OC for at least the last 3 months. The card still doesn't break 50C though.

Fallout 3 didn't create a shortcut because of the way the CD-Check worked. The launcher required the CD, and they had the CD set to auto-launch that launcher.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 16 February 2012 - 04:45 PM

[LiveBrianD]

Hmm... I used a no-CD crack thing with it I think...

Basically, the GPU was just faulting when you put it under load? Like you get if you overclock it too far?

And that was your reference 5770, right?

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 16 February 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Hmm... I used a no-CD crack thing with it I think...

Basically, the GPU was just faulting when you put it under load? Like you get if you overclock it too far?

And that was your reference 5770, right?

The GPU is artifacting out when placed under a heavy load, like Skyrim. Haven't tried other games yet. The 8800GT is holding up admirably though.

Yes, that was the reference card. At reference speeds.

[LiveBrianD]

I just did a little research, and it sounds like the 5770 is a bit of an upgrade from the 8800gt, but not a huge one, right? What do you think you'll get to replace it? (or will you just keep the 8800gt for now) Oh, and do you think the oven trick might work here? Man, if a gpu can't even last a few years... (though with quite a bit of overclocking)

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 16 February 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

I just did a little research, and it sounds like the 5770 is a bit of an upgrade from the 8800gt, but not a huge one, right? What do you think you'll get to replace it? (or will you just keep the 8800gt for now) Oh, and do you think the oven trick might work here? Man, if a gpu can't even last a few years... (though with quite a bit of overclocking)

Yes it will be replaced, no I don't know when, or by what. Probably a 7800 series from AMD, or a 560~570 from Nvidia. Not sure yet, as I have a few other things to deal with first.

No, the oven trick won't work. This appears to be a ram failure, not a connection failure.

[LiveBrianD]

Does the amd reference card say what quality of ram and stuff to use? Or is there still room to have variation in quality among the same model reference card from different vendors?

[waldojim]

There is room for variation, but true reference cards use what AMD tested.

Side note, the troubles I am having may actually still be driver related. I updated drivers two days ago due to Steam complaining. When the new drivers were peoven screwy, I went back to old drivers ( uninstall and reinatall). The card continued to malfunction, and I assumed hardware.l due to the nature of the malfunction. However, it is sitting in my other test rig, and handling furmark like a freaking champ. Damned crappy AMD drivers!

[coastie65]

waldojim, on 17 February 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

There is room for variation, but true reference cards use what AMD tested.

Side note, the troubles I am having may actually still be driver related. I updated drivers two days ago due to Steam complaining. When the new drivers were peoven screwy, I went back to old drivers ( uninstall and reinatall). The card continued to malfunction, and I assumed hardware.l due to the nature of the malfunction. However, it is sitting in my other test rig, and handling furmark like a freaking champ. Damned crappy AMD drivers!

After uninstalling the drivers, it may have been a good idea to run CCleaner and use both CCleaning options ( files and registry ) to make sure it was completely clean before installing new drivers.

[coastie65]

May have to reinstall it ( retaining the save files of course ) and see what happens. Usually happens when I enter a building / room or when something in here updated. May try disabling my security apps when I'm playing and see what happens.

[waldojim]

These games just seem a tad sensitive to change

[waldojim]

ok, confirmed that it is a driver issue. Interestingly enough, the patches to allow the game to run exceptionally well on even the most basic machines. One of the current test rigs is a Sempron 140 (2.7Ghz single core), 4GB DDR 3 1600Mhz ram. Testing the 5770 on it with a fresh copy of Windows XP. And so far, the game runs extremely well on high quality @ 1080P. Those CPU patches work very, very well for lower end machines. The big downside, is that a LOT of textures and objects have a delayed load now.

[LiveBrianD]

Hmm... something corrupted in the driver install that was kept when you downgraded to the old driver?

[coastie65]

Disabled the security and haven't had a hiccup.

[LiveBrianD]

What are you running? Avast and what?

[coastie65]

LiveBrianD, on 17 February 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

What are you running? Avast and what?

Running Avast! and the paid version of SUPERantispyware. I disabled the real time in SAS and went to the silent game mode with Avast! and had no problems.