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[KLanD]

Interesting tidbit.

[lostviking]

So?

You think comparing sales of a product that cost twice the competition...and thousands is an equal comparison to selling a phone for a couple hundred? When the competition is similarly priced?

That simply proves that the desktop was something Apple NEVER understood and could never compete in. If it wasn't for a bailout from MS of all companies Apple wouldn't even exist today.

[kronoscornelius]

The number of Macs sold is not a hard number to beat.

Heavy product placement and gorilla marketing makes people think Apple is popular, but in fact Google's Android and Microsoft have the lion's share of each market.

[QUADICON]

When Apple was running their Mac vs PC ads to gain some share when Microsoft was having issues with Vista, I mocked fans who were dissing Vista at the time saying, Microsoft still sold 350M+ copies of them. I also said jokingly that Apple never sold 350M of anthing. I wasn't aware that the joke was actually a reality.

122M Mac's in 28 years? That's about 4.4M per year, compare to how many PC's that sell per year on average?

In 2010 alone, more than 200M PC's sold with the vast majority being for Windows?

It si estimated that 1.4B people own a personal computer. 122M is a very small dent in that number. That si less than 1/3 the population fo the USA which is about 350M...which means lietrally every person in the USA coudl own a copy of Vista and 1 of every 3 own a Mac.

Wow...!

Hey Tom, when you were so happy Apple reached 10% of its market before Microsoft reach theirs, little did we know how little your marker really is. Out of 7B know people living, 122M is not really a big number, compared to Windows which si used by 1/7th of the world population.

Now I think I understand why iPhone and iPad are really a big deal to Apple, and why they are suing the crap out of Saumsung. They don't want the iProducts to be as irrelevant as the one they started with is.

I miss my Apple IIGS...oh wait, I can just go get it out the box and plug it in an enjoy some memories. The IIGS and the ImageWriter IMO were the best things Apple ever made.

[QUADICON]

lostviking, on 17 February 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

So?

You think comparing sales of a product that cost twice the competition...and thousands is an equal comparison to selling a phone for a couple hundred? When the competition is similarly priced?

That simply proves that the desktop was something Apple NEVER understood and could never compete in. If it wasn't for a bailout from MS of all companies Apple wouldn't even exist today.

The money isn't what save Apple. What did save Apple was this. Deveopers were dropping from the Mac platform at a pretty steady pace. Microsoft is the worlds largest producer of software on the planet. If Microsoft as the worlds largest developer had left Apple, other devs could have seen that as a sign to also jump.

Microsoft used thsi to their advantage. The 150M they gave to Apple was for several reasons. Some of the money was for the cross-licensing settlement and the rest was for other things. MS had a vest interest in keeping apple afloat. Without Apple, Microsoft would have had a 100% monoploy on the PC market and the desktop operating system market, which likely would have kep the feds on their backs forever. Keeping Apple around gives MS breathing room.

As another poster said, it shows the Macreally doesn't have that much of a dent in the full market.

[Evildave]

Microsoft and 'overall numbers' again?

Lick poop. How could a trillion flies be wrong?

Apple is more profitable than Microsoft.

Apple is more profitable than any other computer manufacturer.

It's a BUSINESS.

The bottom line is what counts for 'success'.

Apple profit skyrocketing. Net income $13.1 billion
http://www.bloomberg...ofit-sales.html

Microsoft profit... ho-hum. Net income $6.62 billion for same period
http://www.telecompa...es-rise-5-in-q2

Compared to PC manufacturers, Apple is ENORMOUS, and unlike the biggest PC manufacturers and their customers, Apple customers are generally HAPPY with what they get.

[karthiq]

Apples and MS approach to profits is different. Since MS does not make hardware and only earns through its OS, MARKET SHARE of its OS is more important for it to make profits.

Since apple makes both hardware and OS, it doesnt entirely depend only on market share of its OS.Direct profits from the devices itself are more important to it than market share.

And both approaches have been successful for the respective companies.

The same goes between apple and google in the mobile devices arena.

[StephenSumner]

lostviking, on 17 February 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

So?

You think comparing sales of a product that cost twice the competition...and thousands is an equal comparison to selling a phone for a couple hundred? When the competition is similarly priced?

That simply proves that the desktop was something Apple NEVER understood and could never compete in. If it wasn't for a bailout from MS of all companies Apple wouldn't even exist today.

I'm guessing the bailout from Microsoft just kills you doesn't it...