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[NicholasProto]

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

[JeremySmelser]

Haha wow. It's a bonus with the N7 Edition and is being offered to everyone on day-1 which is great. Yes it costs money and is interesting but missing out on it won't ruin the game and if you want the storyline of it, check youtube for free. It was always going to be a sperate piece from the start.

[JimmyBowowow]

If the DLC wasn't even leak, this wouldn't even be a issue right now. People already know about EA/Bioware ways by now. You either accept it, or you don't. Simple as that! It's a little too late too be complaining now though, when people have been buying into this kind of business sense DA:O, which in my opinion is the WORST offender when it comes to bad business practices from EA/Bioware.

[NicoleSeidl]

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

amen.

[JaydenWilliams]

Whether or not this content was planned alongside the main game is irrelevant.

I'm one to believe it was made separate, as stated in the forum post, for long-time fans of the series.

The content has been known for months, indicated in the leaked script, the accidental reveal when the N7 edition was announced, and via the ME3 art book. Don't cry foul now.

It's $10. Do yourself a favor and don't buy that morning coffee for two days and you'll be right.

First world problems

[zweisman22]

Why are there so many people bitching about this game before it even comes out. I'm almost ashamed to be a Mass Effect fan, the incessant whining that goes on. If you don't like the game, SHUT THE [censored] UP AND DON'T BUY IT. No one is forcing you to.

[LongVu]

That's not unlike Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC from Mass Effect 2

[Trippny]

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

[Trippny]

You people that say "boycotting is for morons" blah blah. Do you realize how stupid you're acting?

You're basically saying, "meh, w/e, It's ok if these developers nickle and dime me for every piece of content even though it was made prior to launch"

I'm really going to hate PC gaming in the future. It's going to cost over $100 to finish the campaign for an RPG.

[Trippny]

Nobody cares about the price. We care about video game future and at this rate we're going to be charged for every bullet we use and have to pay a monthly fee to a DRM just to play.

Open your damn eyes, expand your minds for 10 seconds and think of how this kind of business will grow if nobody speaks up.

Do you guys remember playing awesome UT and Quake maps made by users not to mention the tons of other games that offered mod tools? And today barely any games come with mod tools. This is because developers want to charge us for DLC's and want us to buy a sequel every year. If they gave us good mod tools we wouldn't need any of their garbage and we could prolong a games life 10fold.

Those days are gone and now we're in the phase where developers cut their finished product into pieces and sell it later as DLC. I can't even imagine what the next big step will be, no more PC titles? DRM's required for all games?

Sigh..sorry for the rant but some of you need to wake up.

[NicholasProto]

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

Look, I'm purchasing the Mass Effect 3 collector's edition, and I get it free. I do wish this was part of the game, but I'm not going to not buy the game just because of that. I have enjoyed the Mass Effect series nonetheless always, and still always will, it's my favorite series next to the Elder Scrolls and Halo.

I'm not an idiot friend, I just adapt.

[CarlosMena]

That's ridiculous to boycott this amazing epic over a measly $10

This post has been edited by CarlosMena: 23 February 2012 - 04:37 PM

[Kroesis]

Sod boycotting it, i'll be buying it, sure it'll be worth it!

[Tangleybones]

This afternoon, I canceled my SW:TOR account, and gave this as my reason:

I am cancelling my SW:TOR account because the way Bioware is treating their fans with Mass Effect 3 is shameful. Announcing that the game will be only available on Origin months after starting to accept players' money in the form of pre-orders is disgraceful. Requiring players to install an invasive form of spyware to complete the third installment of a trilogy is disgraceful. (Not to mention that I don't want to see a proliferation of launchers so that for I have to have one for ever developer whose games I play). Bioware's marketing department has been disgustingly duplicitous through all of this. Finally, attempting to sell day-1 DLC is again, a blatant cash-grab that really shows no respect for the fans who have supported Bioware for years. I have always bought games new because I wanted to support the developer. I've bought even the cheesy DLCs like appearance packs, because I wanted to support the developer. But when the developer feels entitled to treat their fans like Bioware has decided to treat them with ME3, I can no longer support that developer financially. I am cancelling my SW:TOR account, and I won't be playing ME3. And since I haven't been as excited for a game as I have been for ME3 for years, I don't imagine that any of Bioware's future offerings are going to lure me back as a customer. I realize that my few hundred dollars a year aren't going to affect Bioware's bottom line very much, but... for me, this is less about "punishing" Bioware, and more about refusing to be treated with such disrespect.

[XeridianDarkmoon]

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

Hey they made Parry Hotter and Twilight's last movies 2 parts to make more money. Why should games these days be any different.
Calling a boycott for something like this is dumb, though I have been a Bioware fan until they went to EA, EA is exactly that, EA. If individuals can't make up their minds or make an informed decision on their own, you think you calling them stupid and making assumptions on their reasoning is any less informed? There are certain things to boycott, this is not one of them. The game devs can do anything they want to their product before it gets in your hands. It's up to each person to decide if it should keep them from buying it. As long as I feel I get my moneys worth, and research the product 1st, they can DLC whatever they want to, doesn't mean I have to buy it. Also, it could be a reverse marketing technique making everyone think it belonged in the original batch, even though it may not. So people feel the urgency to buy it regardless. Stop wasting your breath/typing on the thousand people that still aren't listening to you...

[BrandonStaaden]

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

Did you read Bioware's explanation? Because to be honest, I'm tired of people ignoring a perfectly rational one, particularly when they have zero concept of what a development cycle is like. Bioware states that the DLC was developed by a separate team after certification. If you're not familiar with this, it basically means the game is set in it's final state so it can be reviewed and then published. This means no changes. This means the DLC is, in fact, not part of the finished game, because while the DLC is being worked on, the game is done. Hence, no problem. How, in this context, can it be said that Bioware is doing it to "milk the customer"? If you say they plotted to cut it out earlier in the process only to make DLC for it... so what? You know what used to happen to things that got cut? You never saw them. They were discarded and fans never enjoyed it. Period. Now, there's a mechanism in place for developers to make good on their original vision. You may not like it, but developers have deadlines and a publisher can't keep forking over money forever - eventually the damn game has to be finished.

Further, this DLC has never been hidden, so it's not as if they were masking their intentions. The DLC was to be made available to everyone that purchased the collector's edition. If you didn't buy that edition, would you prefer not having it at all? Because folks who pay extra up front for the better edition have already fronted the money and that being the case, there's nothing wrong. They're providing it for a cost to those who elected not to purchase the upgraded edition.

Next, you're claiming that EA and Bioware specifically removed this piece of the game, a vital piece, purely because they're scumbags. Really? Care to share any evidence at all that this is the case? Aside from the fact that you're calling them liars and thieves, you have zero reason to declare it's a "huge addition to the game's story" aside from pure speculation and conjecture.

Lastly, I still do not for the life of me understand how DLC releases are any different, at all, from expansion packs that have been common in RPGs since well before DLC was a twinkle in anyone's eye. You get additional content at a cost. Rationalize all you want, but that's the long and short of it. I haven't bothered adjusting for inflation as to what expansions of classic RPG computer games cost in today's dollars, but I'm betting if someone did the math, your DLC will come at a similar price point per hour of entertainment.

To throw in one last speculation of my own, I'm guessing that for every person that makes good on their declaration to boycott Bioware and EA, a dozen more that're shaking their fists in impotent rage will not only buy ME3, all the DLC, and whatever the next offering from Bioware is, too. Why? Because Bioware makes damn good games and I'm willing to accept a perfectly reasonable explanation from these folks as to what is going on here.

[Thoraxe]

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

It's ten bucks. Free if you got the Collector's Edition, which is an extra twenty bucks.

Mow a lawn or something to pay for it. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Anyone who's really so butthurt about this is a whiny bitch, and seems to be infuriated by that fact.

[ChristopherMcDonald]

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

The way I look at it is simple. Mass Effect 3 is about Shepard taking the fight against the Reapers and saving the galaxy, yadda yadda. As supremely epic as this DLC sounds, it is NOT essential for the ME3 storyline. It is however absolutely a must for the lore of the game. But then again, so are the books and comics. So by this logic, should those be free and available with access to the Cerberus Network? I love the Mass Effect series, more than any other game I've played. But the fact of the matter is that this was a very clever marketing move made by EA/BioWare for the hardcore fans to finally get to play/hear/see an actual living Prothean. The negative press is nothing but user created assumptions that the DLC was "cut out" of the original content.

So please save all judgements until you have actually played the game. That's what I'm doing. And if I lose out on $10 getting screwed by EA/BioWare, then that is my own problem for giving my favotite develepors the benefit of the doubt and then, and only then will I worry about continuing my relationship with them as a customer.

If you don't wish to buy the DLC, then don't. It's that easy. And for all the people that I've heard complaining that it's unfair and that the moneys spent on DLC can go towards a meal and such, consider this; This is not an essential part of your life. Video games are a luxury and should be prioritized as such.

[JoshH]

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Trippny, on 23 February 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

NicholasProto, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm sorry, anyone who boycotts this is a pure moron.

Enjoy the game, and stop complaining people.

The amount of stupid in your post makes me wonder if you're trolling. I'm leaning towards no.

I've explained it to a thousand idiots already so what's one more. First off..did you even read this article?

Secondly, you're essentially saying that it's ok for developers sell a piece of the finished game as a DLC solely to milk the customer, especially something as crucial as who this party member is and what his story will be. Nobody gives a crap about a $10 DLC as long as it's not something that will affect the story and as long as it was done after release. EA is basically taking this HUGE addition to the games story and selling it off for more profit.

If you're ok with that I'll just go ahead and assume you're a child and your mothers money means nothing to you.

Look, I'm purchasing the Mass Effect 3 collector's edition, and I get it free. I do wish this was part of the game, but I'm not going to not buy the game just because of that. I have enjoyed the Mass Effect series nonetheless always, and still always will, it's my favorite series next to the Elder Scrolls and Halo.

I'm not an idiot friend, I just adapt.

Please do realize that you will be massively challenged to find a Collector's Edition copy of the game at this point due to being sold out all over unless you want to wait a few weeks after the game comes out. Plus, realize that the original game does not come with this DLC. Many people who do not want to wait will have to shell out an extra $10 for the DLC despite just paying the full price for the game. And even then, if you do wait and get a CE copy, you are paying $80+ even if you don't want all most extra stuff in the first place.


It makes me sad to see people give in so easily to things like this.