[htn081258]

Metro interface is clumsy and horrible. MS just has to quit trying to be Apple-like. Not all people want to use touch screen, why not during the installation process, ask if you have touch screen, if the answer is yes, then install metro, otherwise, just install regular windows interface like windows 7.

[DougBolster7ruz]

Works great in touch, but with mouse and keyboard its not intuitive. Also Xbox companion, music and video apps "not available for sign in" beacause im in Canada, come on, my xbox is right next to me and I cant connect? lol

[LiveBrianD]

Wyn6, on 03 March 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Actually, I think you have that backwards. Geeks who read tech blogs and websites are the 1%. Tech/Computer geeks are a small minority of the general populace. I know it sounds harsh and I'm sorry. But, it's true. Windows 8 and the Metro environment are here to stay and I'm quite pleased. Now, if we can figure out how to toss the desktop and make it just a backend deal that supports x86/64 apps. That is until those legacy apps no longer exist or exist in small quantity. Let the future of computing come sooner not later.

If geeks like me are having trouble figuring out how to do simple things like shutting the damn system down, how are most people supposed to figure it out? They'll be all confused with lots of things there - for instance, IE10 in the metro UI. It makes no sense, multitasking is awkward and not a very high priority there, it's a big step backward in usability, you can't have things 'windowed' in the metro UI... metro is ok for tablets, but TERRIBLE for everything else. Quit trying to try my quad core desktop PC into an oversized tablet. Really.

[JordanBrownauyl]

jakejh, on 03 March 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

I don't like the new windows 8 i have tried the new consumer preview and it is really terrible and inconvenient for PC users my problem isn't with the new metro style interface i actually like it but it's implemented completely wrong the way they do it is pretty much a big middle finger to windows PC users it shoves the new UI down your throat.

The way they should have implemented it in my opinion is to have the normal desktop like in windows seven and there would be a metro style sidebar that would have your favourite apps on it and you could then drag the sidebar out to cover the screen and then you could drag it back when your done and if you were to use it on a tablet it would be the opposite as opposed to the desktop being the default UI the metro UI would be the default and you would drag out the desktop from a small tab.

My other problem is that by default the desktop is barely there anymore its now only an application that can be opened/closed and the start menu is even gone so not only does it shove a non PC friendly UI down your throat but it makes the inconveniently implemented desktop UI difficult to use

(now that i think of it the only way to use the desktop alone would be to have every square centimetre of desktop filled with application icons)

and takes out one of the main facets of the interface.

Its not huge changes that would have to be made they just need to make the desktop better for PC users and not shove the metro UI down PC users throat.

so in conclusion its terrible and i will not use it until some changes are made.

If you notice some spelling mistakes in words with O and U next to each other there not mistakes i am Canadian and that’s how we spell then in Canada and every other English speaking country exempt for the U.S eg. U.S= color Other country’s= Colour

...Ever heard of using a period?

I can't read that giant run-on, buddy. Try and space out your thoughts with punctuation next time. :/

[bheberling001]

max999, on 03 March 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Wouldn't use it even if M$ paid me $50 a month. There is a reason why XP is still the most used OS. Looks like Linux and Mac will gain more users.

not to split hair but win 7 is the most used os now not xp

[TechnoSarah]

In my opinion,
it's good step from Microsoft trying to take a part of Technology competition these days

and I see Windows 8 would be nice system in Teblets

although I can't imagine using it in PC

[YellowEagle]

I'm just now switching most of the systems I have over to Win 7.

One of the systems I have been using with win 7 for a couple of years. I'm not wanting to make another switch for quite some time.

And if they come out with this new version ....what are they going to do away with Win 7, like they are doing with XP.

I have only read about the New Windows and seen the new interface, and personally after all I have read and seen of the New interface, I'm not impressed, looks like to me it will be like Vista, a fail.

Why are they trying to shove some thing like this down our throats? To me you would have thought they would have continued to improve on Win 7, like they did with XP.

Thats all I need is a 55 lb Desktop turned into a Phone, no Thank you

@Shack: that won't happen, once the package is open you can't return it, thats how it is on almost all resellers Sites with most any Software. It's a you bought it, we aren't taking it back you own it type of deal. They get your money.

Just because The big MS says hey you need this doesn't make it so. Put it on a Tablet were it needs to be and just finish improving Win 7

[ridgerock]

Jesus ... WTF survey. Is this PC mag or a Apple yellow rag. Let's all buy Apple crap at 3 times as much. Slavery is fun. Here I have a SURVEY 1.) Does Apple have the best products in the World or just the Tech World ? 2.) Is Apple great or Does Microsoft suck ? 3.) Is PC mag a bought and paid for Ho or Does PC mag just have their head so far up Apples rectum they are blind ?

[raven49]

I have a very nice picture of the Ornithological Park outside Archechon, France on my desktop. I have arranged program icons so most of the picture still shows. Why would I want to replace that with multiple colored tiles? Most of the articles seem to be written by people who like the new GUI based on the amount of print dedicated to it rather than functional improvements over Win 7. I still use XP Pro but will be building a new computer with Win 7 before I am stuck with no other option than Win 8. I have used Vista and built 2 computers for friends with Win 7. With a SSD for the OS, I think improved boot time will be adequate. Anyway, the computer is part of a home security system and is on all the time. The other part of changing the GUI so drastically is the human factors impact and the fact 8 seems designed more for the tablet than the desktop you're shutting out a lot of the market. I don't need a tile to the MS store facing me all the time. With a large monitor, I also don't want a program stuck in full screen mode.

[dniaak]

Here's a bit of prophesy for you:

I predict that while Win8 will appeal to teenagers, there will be an adult backlash against it that will make Microsoft long for the relatively pleasant days of Vista. And ---- NO business user will touch it!

[LiveBrianD]

dniaak, on 04 March 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Here's a bit of prophesy for you:

I predict that while Win8 will appeal to teenagers, there will be an adult backlash against it that will make Microsoft long for the relatively pleasant days of Vista. And ---- NO business user will touch it!

As a teen, I hate Windows 8.

[TruColorz]

I think people are going to be surprised at how popular Win8 becomes. Honestly it's not for everyone but that's how most things in this world are. Now with Win8 it is very different but in a good way. It's attempting to be 2 things for those of us who want/need 2 distinct environments for work and play. I have Metro for some work but mostly play, then I switch to the Desktop for Adobe/Autodesk/and Office. So far I have really liked the overall experience. Yes there are some quirks but again this is the BETA. Once this is RTM then I'll be less forgiving for certain things. Shutdown should be easier but then again I can easily do CTRL+ALT+DEL whereas others can't. Another quirk is the corners. Yes I got used to it but overall it was a bit weird at first. Now it's second nature and I'm actually quicker on 8 than 7. Last quirk is the right-clicking for hidden items. Once you understand that you need to right-click for stuff then it's pretty intuitive but at first it's really weird. Personally I see it as Microsoft future-proofing there OS. I see myself one day holding a touch screen laptop with no trackpad, just a screen and keyboard. Imagine typing in office, then hit windows key to launch calendar, then use your finger to swip office back in from left to finish article. Seems very fast and efficient. I think Win8 will be a very unique future for most people who choose to adopt it. Otherwise, stay with Win7. Still a very good OS.

[TruColorz]

I think people are going to be surprised at how popular Win8 becomes. Honestly it's not for everyone but that's how most things in this world are. Now with Win8 it is very different but in a good way. It's attempting to be 2 things for those of us who want/need 2 distinct environments for work and play. I have Metro for some work but mostly play, then I switch to the Desktop for Adobe/Autodesk/and Office. So far I have really liked the overall experience. Yes there are some quirks but again this is the BETA. Once this is RTM then I'll be less forgiving for certain things. Shutdown should be easier but then again I can easily do CTRL+ALT+DEL whereas others can't. Another quirk is the corners. Yes I got used to it but overall it was a bit weird at first. Now it's second nature and I'm actually quicker on 8 than 7. Last quirk is the right-clicking for hidden items. Once you understand that you need to right-click for stuff then it's pretty intuitive but at first it's really weird. Personally I see it as Microsoft future-proofing there OS. I see myself one day holding a touch screen laptop with no trackpad, just a screen and keyboard. Imagine typing in office, then hit windows key to launch calendar, then use your finger to swip office back in from left to finish article. Seems very fast and efficient. I think Win8 will be a very unique future for most people who choose to adopt it. Otherwise, stay with Win7. Still a very good OS.

[max999]

TruColorz, on 04 March 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

I think people are going to be surprised at how popular Win8 becomes. Honestly it's not for everyone but that's how most things in this world are. Now with Win8 it is very different but in a good way. It's attempting to be 2 things for those of us who want/need 2 distinct environments for work and play. I have Metro for some work but mostly play, then I switch to the Desktop for Adobe/Autodesk/and Office. So far I have really liked the overall experience. Yes there are some quirks but again this is the BETA. Once this is RTM then I'll be less forgiving for certain things. Shutdown should be easier but then again I can easily do CTRL+ALT+DEL whereas others can't. Another quirk is the corners. Yes I got used to it but overall it was a bit weird at first. Now it's second nature and I'm actually quicker on 8 than 7. Last quirk is the right-clicking for hidden items. Once you understand that you need to right-click for stuff then it's pretty intuitive but at first it's really weird. Personally I see it as Microsoft future-proofing there OS. I see myself one day holding a touch screen laptop with no trackpad, just a screen and keyboard. Imagine typing in office, then hit windows key to launch calendar, then use your finger to swip office back in from left to finish article. Seems very fast and efficient. I think Win8 will be a very unique future for most people who choose to adopt it. Otherwise, stay with Win7. Still a very good OS.

I doubt it. I think this will be the biggest failure MS has ever had. In fact it could lead to their demise. The backlash will be like no other.

[max999]

bheberling001, on 04 March 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

max999, on 03 March 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Wouldn't use it even if M$ paid me $50 a month. There is a reason why XP is still the most used OS. Looks like Linux and Mac will gain more users.

not to split hair but win 7 is the most used os now not xp

I guess there are many polls about this. I recently read a story stating XP was still at 45% worldwide for most used OS. I really don't think they really know.

[vonagner]

max999, on 03 March 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Wouldn't use it even if M$ paid me $50 a month. There is a reason why XP is still the most used OS. Looks like Linux and Mac will gain more users.

I am sorry for you, don't take it personally, but that is the dumbest thing I heard ind the last few years. I know and you know that Linux and Mac will NOT gain more users. Windows 8 Metros GUI is different but is not bad at all. You sound like a young person and don't how to make distinction about bad interface and useless interface (GUI) and I respect that, and it's not our fault (I guess). But I have to say, freedom of speech or not, the phrase that made me subscribe and right this post is, "Looks like Linux and Mac will gain more users.", man/woman that is so, so, so dumb, small minded. I don't mean to offend you, I don't know you. Take a good breath and look around and besides looking around, try to understand "around. No offense, just trying to help a soul. Sincerely, Chester

[AnonymousFriend]

Love having the best of both worlds (tablet & desktop) on my laptop with seamless integration (for the most part). Yes, I think Windows 8 will be a fantastic operating sysyetm.

[orlbuckeye]

htn081258, on 03 March 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Metro interface is clumsy and horrible. MS just has to quit trying to be Apple-like. Not all people want to use touch screen, why not during the installation process, ask if you have touch screen, if the answer is yes, then install metro, otherwise, just install regular windows interface like windows 7.

I think Microsoft is trying to integrate all devices to be able to share in the business environement easily. I beleive goal in to be able to move data/files from one plaform to another and be 100% compatible. It was not done for making the PC a more productive device. It was done to make the integration of multiple device to increase productivity. The thing I don't like is the when trying to set up email it doesn't have a setup for a pop server email account. It doesn have an setup for an exchange account. I hope they include pop server email in the final release.

This post has been edited by orlbuckeye: 05 March 2012 - 07:12 AM

[CHIP72]

I have a Windows Phone OS smartphone, and I'm looking forward to Windows 8. Actually, I can't wait to buy a Windows 8 tablet + keyboard dock combination (think ASUS Transformer). IMO, the WP OS user interface is vastly superior to iOS and Android OS and is better than gesture-based UI mobile OS, such as webOS and Blackberry QNX OS. With the larger size a tablet screen will provide, the strengths of the widget-like tiles in terms of providing useful information without opening the app (while encouraging you to use the app) will probably be realized to a greater degree than it has so far on Windows Phone OS.

Admittedly, I'm unsure how well the Metro UI will work when the tablet is docked for laptop mode; I suspect that will be an adjustment. But with Microsoft essentially creating Windows 8 with two UIs - one Metro, one "traditional" - that issue should be mitigated when the tablet is being used with a docked keyboard.

[JosephMcQuadeSr]

I myself am running Windows 8 CP on my live machine I use everyday, but i have 3 machines in my home. One of the problems I came across was the fact I

had my temp as E:\temp instead of %systemroot%\temp. the first attempt did accept the fact that i had a different temp directory. And my pagefile sits

on a stand alone drive. upon changing these back to a default the install went semi smooth. I was unable to bring over my previous stuff due to the

setup i was using so I did a default setup. That didn't bother me that much, Since it did rename everything to "windows.old" folder. And I went into

there and grabbed my stuff out. But since i no longer need windows.old I can not remove it. So it's wasting 25gigs on a 1TB drive.. "not much space

wasted"


Using Windows 8 has been like testing a new breed of a system. I can't really complain much about it, but there are certain thing's I am not liking, the

fact that I can not add more emails to my mail once you get in to, "Perhaps I have yet to find where the add button went too."

Games and such so far that I have run I haven't come across any issues "yet", But one big issue I have is using my ISP for online movies. I have to use

Fire Fox and run it in WinXP SP3 mode in order to watch a movie online VIA my isp "Xfinity" I did put in a remark about this, and I did get a response

about the issue and it is known, And they are in contact with Xfinity to get a resolve to it. With this being a beta I would expect to see something

done over the next couple months.

One of my other issue's is my CPU fan usage. My setting is on balanced so it floats between 1ghz-2.3ghz "2.3ghz being max speed" But my CPU fan will

stay between 3500RPM to 5200RPM, under Windows Vista it would float between 2350rpm to 5250RPM. CPU temp floats "26c(79F)No load" "45c(112F) under load"

So at this point I am not too sure why it would idle 1200RPM faster then before, The CPU fan itself has been "blown out"

Second issue is on my GFX card, It will idle between 53c(125F)/60c(140F) no load. Once I do enter a game it will idle 72C(161.6F) Fan usage NO load 35%,

under load I have not seen it pass 47% usage. But those temps do not have my concern, They are rather low. The GFX card I am running is a 9800GTX+

512mb. Games play very smooth when tested on default settings, and the only issue I have come across is shadows when everything is maxed "must be the

card" When playing a game I just relax the shadowing and there is no major issues.

Final issue, well not a real issue... I would like to see a nicer user switch aviable, My kids really enjoy playing around on Windows 8 CP on their

side. But switching can be a tad bit annoying. I would like to have the WIN+L back..

Windows 8 CP Build 8250
CPU Amd 4400+ (2.3ghz)
RAM 4 gigz DDR2 800
GFX XFX9800GTX+ 512mb
Display Acer 22" X220W