[HG]

I am think of buying this computer for using as gaming, virtual machine, video editing, programing, running programs for high end logical math problems solving, and photo editing/rendering in 3D:
http://www.microcent...duct_id=0375231

Is it good?

How is powerspec as a company? Do they make good quality products?

Will it work for the above menthiong tasks?

If not recomand something in budget of 1400 to 1600.

[coastie65]

HG, on 05 March 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

I am think of buying this computer for using as gaming, virtual machine, video editing, programing, running programs for high end logical math problems solving, and photo editing/rendering in 3D:
http://www.microcent...duct_id=0375231

Is it good?

How is powerspec as a company? Do they make good quality products?

Will it work for the above menthiong tasks?

If not recomand something in budget of 1400 to 1600.

Hi. Looks pretty good. I have not heard of that company. It may be reliable and might not be. There are some things I do ahve an issue with and that is the Hdds. They are 5400 RPM and they should be 7200 RPM. That might be a result of the Hdd shortage that was created by flooding in Thailand. The other thing is the CPU cooler, it may be alright, but don't know how well it would do if you decided to over clock. It is an unlocked processor in that thing ( I am running the same one in this one I built ). The only other thing is the 1333Mhz ram. I dodn't understand why they didn't go with 1600Mhz. To be honest, you could probably as good if not better and cheaper by building your own.

[waldojim]

Coastie covered most of it about right. Same concerns I have - although he left out an important one: Raid 0. On its own, raid 0 has its purpose. In this case, the manufacturer seems to be using it to hide the slow nature of the hard drives. The drives latency will be fairly unpredictable, and the life span may be compromised. Remember that with raid 0, if ANY ONE drive fails, you lose the array and everything on it.

[LiveBrianD]

For $1688, here's a pretty good machine: (however, there are some ways to cut back on the cost if you want)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 $100 - side window, well built. If you want to save $40, get the 300 instead (no side window though).
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $200, fast, good for video editing and such, plenty of space, if you want to save money get a green (not recommended for video editing though) or blue perhaps, or drop the SSD. Don't use a green drive for the OS. Also, you can use WinAAM to unlock extra performance on a lot of hard drives, set AAM to 'loud'/254.
Wireless Card: ASUS PCE-N10 PCI Express Wireless Adapter $23 - I only put this in because the PC you mentioned also has one. If you don't need wifi, you can remove this.
Video card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $340 - Crossfire and SLI have some issues, so this is probably better than 2 6790s. It's definitely fast enough for plenty of stuff too. Otherwise, you can downgrade to a 560.
Power supply: Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE ... $105 - I know you guys will say this is overkill, but I figured that if he ever wanted to add a second 570 he'd have room, and 650W would be cutting it a little close. (I know the power supply calculators still say more than you need though.) If you don't want SLI or crossfire, a power supply like the seasonic S12II 520W is cheaper ($60 or so) and enough, or for a little more maybe something like the corsair tx650.
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL $47, this ought to be good, you really don't need more than 8GB RAM, though you might want to get stuff with lower timings or a higher clock.
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $205 - looks pretty good, I think it's similar to what coastie has.
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ... $325, overclockable, same as the one you mentioned
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - $100
Optical Drive: ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $58, I figured you might want one, otherwise downgrade to a DVD burner
SSD: Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G310 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM - $185, for the OS. You shouldn't do video editing on an SSD due to the excessive reads and writes there, and the WD Black drive is plenty fast. If you don't care too much about boot times (which are good enough with a WD Caviar Black drive anyway), you may as well drop this. I wouldn't recommend going smaller than this for an OS drive though, since you want to be able to store all your programs on it too. Don't do video editing on this.

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 05 March 2012 - 04:23 PM

[LiveBrianD]

SabrinaSouza, on 05 March 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

I'm having problems with my pc's cooler I would like to know how many coolers are suitable for installing to ventilate properly the pc, so that you do not have the risk of heat?

Please start your own thread for a different question, not piggyback onto someone else's. I see you already asked the question here so I'll respond here: http://forums.pcworl...727#entry589727 Also, do not ask the same question twice.

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 05 March 2012 - 05:58 PM

[HG]

coastie65, on 05 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Hi. Looks pretty good. I have not heard of that company. It may be reliable and might not be. There are some things I do ahve an issue with and that is the Hdds. They are 5400 RPM and they should be 7200 RPM. That might be a result of the Hdd shortage that was created by flooding in Thailand. The other thing is the CPU cooler, it may be alright, but don't know how well it would do if you decided to over clock. It is an unlocked processor in that thing ( I am running the same one in this one I built ). The only other thing is the 1333Mhz ram. I dodn't understand why they didn't go with 1600Mhz. To be honest, you could probably as good if not better and cheaper by building your own.

It has a SD hard drive for the OS. The two drives are in raid 0. Even if it is in raid 0, should the drives be at 7200 RPM.

waldojim, on 05 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Coastie covered most of it about right. Same concerns I have - although he left out an important one: Raid 0. On its own, raid 0 has its purpose. In this case, the manufacturer seems to be using it to hide the slow nature of the hard drives. The drives latency will be fairly unpredictable, and the life span may be compromised. Remember that with raid 0, if ANY ONE drive fails, you lose the array and everything on it.

There is an SD hard drive which would save important files. The raid 0 would be used for anything that can be lost or that I have back up. Would that be fine?

LiveBrianD, on 05 March 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

For $1688, here's a pretty good machine: (however, there are some ways to cut back on the cost if you want)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 $100 - side window, well built. If you want to save $40, get the 300 instead (no side window though).
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $200, fast, good for video editing and such, plenty of space, if you want to save money get a green (not recommended for video editing though) or blue perhaps, or drop the SSD. Don't use a green drive for the OS. Also, you can use WinAAM to unlock extra performance on a lot of hard drives, set AAM to 'loud'/254.
Wireless Card: ASUS PCE-N10 PCI Express Wireless Adapter $23 - I only put this in because the PC you mentioned also has one. If you don't need wifi, you can remove this.
Video card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $340 - Crossfire and SLI have some issues, so this is probably better than 2 6790s. It's definitely fast enough for plenty of stuff too. Otherwise, you can downgrade to a 560.
Power supply: Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE ... $105 - I know you guys will say this is overkill, but I figured that if he ever wanted to add a second 570 he'd have room, and 650W would be cutting it a little close. (I know the power supply calculators still say more than you need though.) If you don't want SLI or crossfire, a power supply like the seasonic S12II 520W is cheaper ($60 or so) and enough, or for a little more maybe something like the corsair tx650.
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL $47, this ought to be good, you really don't need more than 8GB RAM, though you might want to get stuff with lower timings or a higher clock.
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $205 - looks pretty good, I think it's similar to what coastie has.
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ... $325, overclockable, same as the one you mentioned
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - $100
Optical Drive: ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $58, I figured you might want one, otherwise downgrade to a DVD burner
SSD: Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G310 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM - $185, for the OS. You shouldn't do video editing on an SSD due to the excessive reads and writes there, and the WD Black drive is plenty fast. If you don't care too much about boot times (which are good enough with a WD Caviar Black drive anyway), you may as well drop this. I wouldn't recommend going smaller than this for an OS drive though, since you want to be able to store all your programs on it too. Don't do video editing on this.

If you build it and shipped, than I might considered this option.

[snorg]

As with any store bought PC its likely any overclock functions have been disabled, in that case the stock CPU cooler is all you need.

[LiveBrianD]

I'm not assembling and shipping a PC for you. However, it's not hard to do it yourself, and often yields better results than prebuilt OEM machines that you see in the stores. See this:

[HG]

LiveBrianD, on 07 March 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

I'm not assembling and shipping a PC for you. However, it's not hard to do it yourself, and often yields better results than prebuilt OEM machines that you see in the stores. See this:

Well I figure I ask since you gave a list of parts.

@snorg
Do you think it is good even if the OC is disable?

[coastie65]

snorg, on 07 March 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

As with any store bought PC its likely any overclock functions have been disabled, in that case the stock CPU cooler is all you need.

Hey Snorg, That one he listed had an INtel Core i7 2600k in it which is anunlocked processor. I would imagine that it would be able to OC. Usually they would have the locked version i7 2600 which can't be OCed.

[coastie65]

Hi HG, I would recommend a 7200 RPM drive regardless. They are much more efficient. 5400 RPM drives are usually reserved for laptops ( and my PS3 ), but even those can be upgraded to 7200 RPM.

[HG]

coastie65
Do you know of a computer that has the 7200 RPM dirve that you would recommand?

With the 2600K it is unlocked, therefore I should be able to OC if I find someone that can do that???

[coastie65]

HG, on 09 March 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

coastie65
Do you know of a computer that has the 7200 RPM dirve that you would recommand?

With the 2600K it is unlocked, therefore I should be able to OC if I find someone that can do that???

Hey HG, I found this and did the configuration for you : http://www.tigerdire...sp?Base=1315659 It is essentially the same build that I am on now. AS for Systemax, they are the parent company of TigerDirect, Circuit City online, and CompUSA. Look down the list at what I checked. You could add a second Hdd if you wanted to.
I configured it with a 1 TB 7200 RPM G6 Hard Drive, Core i7 2600k processor. 8 Gb of Memory, Nivida GTX 560Ti video card, The Optical drive that was checked, The Logitech Keyboard / Mouse Combo. The case appears to ne the same one I used as well. Cooler Master 912 HAF, which is a good one. I also left it at the 850 Modular Power supply. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

This post has been edited by coastie65: 09 March 2012 - 08:52 AM

[LiveBrianD]

coastie65, on 09 March 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

Hey HG, I found this and did the configuration for you : http://www.tigerdire...sp?Base=1315659 It is essentially the same build that I am on now. AS for Systemax, they are the parent company of TigerDirect, Circuit City online, and CompUSA. Look down the list at what I checked. You could add a second Hdd if you wanted to.
I configured it with a 1 TB 7200 RPM G6 Hard Drive, Core i7 2600k processor. 8 Gb of Memory, Nivida GTX 560Ti video card, The Optical drive that was checked, The Logitech Keyboard / Mouse Combo. The case appears to ne the same one I used as well. Cooler Master 912 HAF, which is a good one. I also left it at the 850 Modular Power supply. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

Power supply overkill again? You don't need an atomic bomb to kill an ant! A 500W PSU is enough for one 560ti, maybe a 650W for 2. (I'm being a little conservative in those estimates btw.)

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 09 March 2012 - 03:42 PM

[scott2012]

As with any store bought PC its likely any overclock functions have been disabled.

[coastie65]

LiveBrianD, on 09 March 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

coastie65, on 09 March 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

Hey HG, I found this and did the configuration for you : http://www.tigerdire...sp?Base=1315659 It is essentially the same build that I am on now. AS for Systemax, they are the parent company of TigerDirect, Circuit City online, and CompUSA. Look down the list at what I checked. You could add a second Hdd if you wanted to.
I configured it with a 1 TB 7200 RPM G6 Hard Drive, Core i7 2600k processor. 8 Gb of Memory, Nivida GTX 560Ti video card, The Optical drive that was checked, The Logitech Keyboard / Mouse Combo. The case appears to ne the same one I used as well. Cooler Master 912 HAF, which is a good one. I also left it at the 850 Modular Power supply. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

Power supply overkill again? You don't need an atomic bomb to kill an ant! A 500W PSU is enough for one 560ti, maybe a 650W for 2. (I'm being a little conservative in those estimates btw.)

Hey Brian, they only had a choice between the 850w and 1200w. Ifr you had paid attention, it is one of thsoe configure it yourself things and you just click your choice. You need to pay a bot more attention to things and quite acting like a preprogrammed Droid.

[coastie65]

scott2012, on 09 March 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

As with any store bought PC its likely any overclock functions have been disabled.

Not likely as it isn't "Prebuilt" in the sense of mass produced " Store Bought " things. These are made to order and with the motherboard and processor being used, I can assure you they are not locked.

[LiveBrianD]

coastie65, on 10 March 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

Hey Brian, they only had a choice between the 850w and 1200w. Ifr you had paid attention, it is one of thsoe configure it yourself things and you just click your choice. You need to pay a bot more attention to things and quite acting like a preprogrammed Droid.

Hmm... thermaltakes? Those aren't exactly known for quality you know.

[HG]

coastie65, on 09 March 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

HG, on 09 March 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

coastie65Do you know of a computer that has the 7200 RPM dirve that you would recommand?With the 2600K it is unlocked, therefore I should be able to OC if I find someone that can do that???

Hey HG, I found this and did the configuration for you : http://www.tigerdire...sp?Base=1315659 It is essentially the same build that I am on now. AS for Systemax, they are the parent company of TigerDirect, Circuit City online, and CompUSA. Look down the list at what I checked. You could add a second Hdd if you wanted to. I configured it with a 1 TB 7200 RPM G6 Hard Drive, Core i7 2600k processor. 8 Gb of Memory, Nivida GTX 560Ti video card, The Optical drive that was checked, The Logitech Keyboard / Mouse Combo. The case appears to ne the same one I used as well. Cooler Master 912 HAF, which is a good one. I also left it at the 850 Modular Power supply. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

I clicked the link but it gives me a Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz 3M LGA1155 Processor, etc, the price is $799.98. Is that right???

Is tigerdirect a good site? I never heard of it.

[coastie65]

HG, on 12 March 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

coastie65, on 09 March 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

HG, on 09 March 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

coastie65Do you know of a computer that has the 7200 RPM dirve that you would recommand?With the 2600K it is unlocked, therefore I should be able to OC if I find someone that can do that???

Hey HG, I found this and did the configuration for you : http://www.tigerdire...sp?Base=1315659 It is essentially the same build that I am on now. AS for Systemax, they are the parent company of TigerDirect, Circuit City online, and CompUSA. Look down the list at what I checked. You could add a second Hdd if you wanted to. I configured it with a 1 TB 7200 RPM G6 Hard Drive, Core i7 2600k processor. 8 Gb of Memory, Nivida GTX 560Ti video card, The Optical drive that was checked, The Logitech Keyboard / Mouse Combo. The case appears to ne the same one I used as well. Cooler Master 912 HAF, which is a good one. I also left it at the 850 Modular Power supply. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

I clicked the link but it gives me a Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz 3M LGA1155 Processor, etc, the price is $799.98. Is that right???

Is tigerdirect a good site? I never heard of it.

Yes, for that configuration. If you scroll down you will see that you can select your own different configurations. I using / checking what I listed in my above post, it will come to $1395.