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New Ipad Fine Print: What Apple Isn't Bragging About

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

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#2 User is offline   SteveHagermanfan2 

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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:45 PM

One really great point about it is that it will lower the prices of the iPad 2's
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

"Verizon's on board, telling 9to5Mac that the mobile hotspot feature will be included in the price of data."
Color me shocked.
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

More unnecessary crApple products for the sheeple to fight over. I love my fully customizeable Motorola Xoom - kicks the sh*t out of my coworkers iCrap 2.
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:53 PM

Not bad, only four issues and one of them isn't even under Apple's control.

100 grams extra weight. Gee, let's see if I carry it around all day I can spend about 23 seconds less at the gym.

Thirty thousandths of an inch thicker than the iPad 2? Let's work ourselves up into a frenzy about that. OK?

VGA front facing camera provides a smooth no-lag video stream when using Facetime. Higher res = more bandwidth. If one needs, for whatever reason, to transmit a higher resolution image of one's anatomy to one's Facetime correspondent, one may switch the video feed to the rear facing camera momentarily.

CPU /GPU, who cares? Let's wait and see what it actually does before partaking of the Apple whine.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:54 PM

View PostEminenceFronta0ah, on 08 March 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

More unnecessary crApple products for the sheeple to fight over. I love my fully customizeable Motorola Xoom - kicks the sh*t out of my coworkers iCrap 2.



And why do you have to be derogatory to people in your critique? Lessons the value of your "insight."
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:02 PM

View Postarkansawyer, on 08 March 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

View PostEminenceFronta0ah, on 08 March 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

More unnecessary crApple products for the sheeple to fight over. I love my fully customizeable Motorola Xoom - kicks the sh*t out of my coworkers iCrap 2.



And why do you have to be derogatory to people in your critique? Lessons the value of your "insight."

because frankly he's right; apple is the biggest perpetrator of the "regurgitated tech" business model
and before you say it yes they have made some innovations but compared to how many iterations of devices those innovations took to appear or improve, it's rather pitiful in my opinion.
not to mention that all their devices have an insane markup beyond whats needed to turn a profit
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Haters will hate. There is not a Windows tablet or even a Driod that touches the new iPad. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:28 PM

View PostWallyDuke, on 08 March 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

"Verizon's on board, telling 9to5Mac that the mobile hotspot feature will be included in the price of data."
Color me shocked.

Shocked, yes, since they charge extra for your phone to tether or decrease your monthly allotment depending on your data plan. Will be interesting to read the fine print when the iPad (I'll call it iPad3) arrives.
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:47 PM

People: There will be those among us who prefer Apple products because they are easier to use for the "technologically challenged." As far as which is better (iPad vs Android Tablets) it all depends on how you use). Personally I love my Galaxy 8.9 Tab which is brighter than an iPad 2, fits in trenchcoat inner pocket and I can wirelessly tether it to Sprint Galaxy S2 phone without paying 1 cent for any special data plan. I can also view the entire content on the many websites with Flash.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:11 PM

View Postrogerdodger, on 08 March 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

People: There will be those among us who prefer Apple products because they are easier to use for the "technologically challenged."


True enough, though that is not to say that there aren't many who prefer it who are far from "technologically challenged". Personally, although I develop software for Linux professionally, and would have no difficulty getting around any tablet you give me, I simply don't need my tablet to act as a fully-fledged hackable scaled-down PC. For the tasks I'm interested in using a tablet for, the iPad does 'em and does 'em well. I have other devices I'd rather use for anything more fiddly. Anecdotally, I can say that a good number of my colleagues have also chosen the iPad—many more, in fact than own iPhones; most have 'droid phones.

Each to their own, basically.
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  Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

The real story is that Apple continues to charge $100 for each additional 16Gb of memory. Why?
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

View PostChrisBrunner, on 08 March 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Haters will hate. There is not a Windows tablet or even a Driod that touches the new iPad. NOT EVEN CLOSE!


That's nonsense, from an outsider's perspective, having not really investigated full size tablets to purchase (we do have a Fire) playing around with a high end Android tablet vs. an iPad is not grossly different. With certain things being better either one. The same is true with the iPhone as well, it seems awesome until you look at it next to an Android in which case it is still awesome, just one of many.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

View PostPercivalMerriwether, on 08 March 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

The real story is that Apple continues to charge $100 for each additional 16Gb of memory. Why?

Because they can.

... or was that a trick question?
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

View Post42n81, on 08 March 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostPercivalMerriwether, on 08 March 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

The real story is that Apple continues to charge $100 for each additional 16Gb of memory. Why?
Because they can.
... or was that a trick question?

Check this out: http://www.verizonwi...m/tablets.shtml

After seeing that, a far trickier question is why or how Motorola (Xyboard) and Samsung (Tab 10.1) do the same $100 for an additional 16GB pricing? Just who do they think they are - Apple? :lol:

As far as the article goes, I'm glad I got the Verizon version of the LTE model -- although at this point I really don't know how often I'd use it, I still like having the hotspot available from the beginning. The ability to turn on the cell service on a month to month basis, right from the device, is also pretty neat.

This post has been edited by Nuke61: 08 March 2012 - 05:06 PM

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostPercivalMerriwether, on 08 March 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

The real story is that Apple continues to charge $100 for each additional 16Gb of memory. Why?

Another question might be why it is that they declare the 10 gram difference between the Wifi and LTE version, yet give only one weight for each across the 16, 32 and 64 GB versions.

Indeed isn't it conceivable that this could also explains the prices? If the different capacities were simply a question of the number of memory sticks, that'd affect the weight, whereas if they all use the same number of components, but different capacity ICs, might this be more expensive than just adding more sticks, which would be more normal for machines without space/weight constraints?

Genuine questions; I honestly don't know, and would be interested to find out.
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  Posted 09 March 2012 - 04:56 AM

It's sad that we can't have an article about Apple or about Android without trolls and flamewars.
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  Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

The one thing I am curious about, is how long the battery life is especially if you are using the 4G version. To my knowledge two of the biggest drains on battery for any mobile device is screen and radios, so higher pixel density screen and faster radios means a lot of power will be drained faster.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:04 AM

View PostPCCoder, on 09 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

The one thing I am curious about, is how long the battery life is especially if you are using the 4G version. To my knowledge two of the biggest drains on battery for any mobile device is screen and radios, so higher pixel density screen and faster radios means a lot of power will be drained faster.


Apple are quoting 10 hours for the Wifi model, 9 hours for the 4G. Somehow they managed to fit a 42.5 Wh battery into almost the same space as their previous 25 Wh one.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

View PostAndrewWawrzynowicz, on 08 March 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

View Postarkansawyer, on 08 March 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

View PostEminenceFronta0ah, on 08 March 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

More unnecessary crApple products for the sheeple to fight over. I love my fully customizeable Motorola Xoom - kicks the sh*t out of my coworkers iCrap 2.



And why do you have to be derogatory to people in your critique? Lessons the value of your "insight."

because frankly he's right; apple is the biggest perpetrator of the "regurgitated tech" business model
and before you say it yes they have made some innovations but compared to how many iterations of devices those innovations took to appear or improve, it's rather pitiful in my opinion.
not to mention that all their devices have an insane markup beyond whats needed to turn a profit

No he has an opinion. So do you but it really doesn't seem to one that is very well thought out or researched. Would you give examples of Apple's "regurgitated tech" business model and contrast that to other tech companies?

Now if your simply saying that the Apple II, Lisa, Macintosh, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, iStores, iPad were simply products that were already in existence fair enough. So was fire. That doesn't diminish someone now using it for cooking the first time. If Apple is simply a regurgitation company where then does that leave all the other companies?

I am glad you are satisfied with your Xoom. That is really all that matters. Clearly most others don't agree as iPad sales exceed Xoom sales by several orders of magnitude. The Xoom is so valuable that Google is buying Motorola...for its mobile patents.

My point is you don't have to be a hater. Be satisfied with what you have and let others be satisfied with what they have.
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