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New Ipad Slow To Recharge, Barely Charges During Use

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:24 PM

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  Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

me thinks you doth protest too much and are forgetting basic math.
356 minutes is 5 hours and 56 minutes not 6 hours and 56 minutes. you owe apple and samsung an apology. 11666 mAh battery, with proper charging technology applied, from 3% to full in 5:56. Sign me up apple!
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  Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:17 PM

Hello, disreputablegeeks--PCWorld copy editor here. You are quite right about the simple error in division that I (not the author of the story) committed. I also misstated the times of the two Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet versions as 6 hours, 46 minutes and 6 hours, 34 minutes, instead of the correct 5 hours, 46 minutes and 5 hours, 34 minutes. I think this is what people mean by "a foolish consistency." My apologies for the errors.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:37 PM

View PostYargs, on 21 March 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Hello, disreputablegeeks--PCWorld copy editor here. You are quite right about the simple error in division that I (not the author of the story) committed. I also misstated the times of the two Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet versions as 6 hours, 46 minutes and 6 hours, 34 minutes, instead of the correct 5 hours, 46 minutes and 5 hours, 34 minutes. I think this is what people mean by "a foolish consistency." My apologies for the errors.

And this is why we smith words instead of crunching numbers. ;)
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  Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:34 PM

If you can get your iPad to charge in 6 hours you're doing great. Mine seems to only charge about 5-6% per hour, and it doesn't finish charging overnight. If I try to use it while it is on the charger, the battery percentage actually drops over time. And yes, I am using the provided charger and cable.
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  Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...
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  Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:17 AM

While I was charging my IPad 3ed gen, I was playing a set of tv shows with continuous play enabled on the AirVideo app. The brightness was set to full and the battery was at 53%. It was left on for 6 hours and when I came back, the batter was at 8%. This does not happen on the IPad 2.
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  Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:56 AM

That chart is embarassing for new iPad owners... basically a downgrade. Makes me glad I opted for the Transformer Prime.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:14 AM

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...

Or perhaps the media just make a much bigger deal of reported Apple issues than any other product. Remember all the tales of duff screens etc. with the iPad 2? Just as much kerfuffle, and now we learn that the actual rate of manufacturing faults was 0.3%. Most manufacturers would be thrilled with 0.3%.
If I dispute one single point in a post, that should not be taken as an indication that I agree/disagree with any other point made by that poster or anyone else in the thread. Or anywhere else. Ever.
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  Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:30 AM

When you have a battery capacity larger than everything else, every percent of your charge is larger than a percent of every other. And, when you want/try to keep the temperature under "frying" range, you charge slow. Combine those, you have a slow charging ipad. Nature of the beast.. Apple isnt much worse or better than others there.

Hate to support (if you could call it support) Apple. but there you have it.
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  Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:14 AM

This is an inaccurate and unfair way to compare tablets. If an iPad at half charge gives me 5 hours of usage and another at full charge gives me 5 hours of usage... how is it fair to compare how long the charge takes? Power is power. You stuff it in a battery and it comes back out. Next thing PC Worls will be covering is the travesty that it takes twice as long to fill up my 30 gallon tank of gas vs my 16 gallon tank of gas!! Ugh. You got your click-through.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:16 AM

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...


Yes it is without a doubt a truth that in a year of development no one at Apple ever bothered to recharge an iPad while using it or felt it ran a little warmer. It is only us consumers with our busier schedules, more sensitive fingers, and different laws of physics that notice these little things.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

View Postsadex76, on 22 March 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...


Yes it is without a doubt a truth that in a year of development no one at Apple ever bothered to recharge an iPad while using it or felt it ran a little warmer. It is only us consumers with our busier schedules, more sensitive fingers, and different laws of physics that notice these little things.

Gosh! Is that... could it be... a sense of perspective?! Round these parts?! Guard it with your life.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:38 AM

View Postsadex76, on 22 March 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...


Yes it is without a doubt a truth that in a year of development no one at Apple ever bothered to recharge an iPad while using it or felt it ran a little warmer. It is only us consumers with our busier schedules, more sensitive fingers, and different laws of physics that notice these little things.


Thank goodness we have organizations like Consumer Reports and DigiTimes to find some of these problems for us and stuff. Otherwise, we would be so lost. :D
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  Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

The problem is not that the battery is failing to charge. It is simply that the iPad is drawing the power faster than the charger can keep up with it. Thsu the battery appears to not be charging. It is charging, just very slow.

The only way to circumvent that is to use a higher voltage charger. However that has an issue to itself. A faster higher voltage charge also creates more heat while charging.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:08 AM

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...

They never do, the fans and Apple just claim they do.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:14 AM

View Postcrosswordbob, on 22 March 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 21 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Problem?
It seems that Apple didn't do enough testing on the New iPad: Heating issues, image processing issues, battery charging issues. It's almost like when Microsoft went from XP to Vista... Except Apple is better off at this stage...

Or perhaps the media just make a much bigger deal of reported Apple issues than any other product. Remember all the tales of duff screens etc. with the iPad 2? Just as much kerfuffle, and now we learn that the actual rate of manufacturing faults was 0.3%. Most manufacturers would be thrilled with 0.3%.

The PR hype that surround Windows Vista lasted so long that Microsoft went and did the Mojave Project to ty to put Vista in a better light. While many thoght they were using a new version of Windows, it was just Vista.

It does show that media hype can draw improper conclusions. But in this case, the issues that surround Vista were those who use Vista on hardware that was not sificient to run the software properly. This isn't even remotely equal.

Microsoft is just as popular as Apple. In fact even more so. Microsoft has product that run on over 90% of pC's on the planet. Apple is not even remotely close. When Windows has even a small bug issue, it is reported by several news agancies, so that such neas will be heard by a vast majority of people. It doesn't mean the problem is that big. Which is exactly what you say of Apple.

MS still sold 350M+ copies of Vista. But a software that doesn't wprk properly or as expected can be fixed. While you're waiting for said fix, the software won't physically hurt you.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:15 AM

View PostQUADICON, on 22 March 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

The problem is not that the battery is failing to charge. It is simply that the iPad is drawing the power faster than the charger can keep up with it. Thsu the battery appears to not be charging. It is charging, just very slow.

The only way to circumvent that is to use a higher voltage charger. However that has an issue to itself. A faster higher voltage charge also creates more heat while charging.

In fact it's current, not voltage that would speed up recharging. A higher voltage would likely damage the device.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

View Postsadex76, on 22 March 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

This is an inaccurate and unfair way to compare tablets. If an iPad at half charge gives me 5 hours of usage and another at full charge gives me 5 hours of usage... how is it fair to compare how long the charge takes? Power is power. You stuff it in a battery and it comes back out. Next thing PC Worls will be covering is the travesty that it takes twice as long to fill up my 30 gallon tank of gas vs my 16 gallon tank of gas!! Ugh. You got your click-through.

Comparing charging times I would agree is unfair.
But here is the issue. The device in question is consuming so much power, that even while plugged in the battery isn't gaining any power.
When I use my 4S while plugged in to play games, and some are pretty graphical in nature, it stilll fills up to 100% in a reasonable amount of time. USer of the ipad are reporting that while plugged in and using the battery is still losing power when it should be charging up.

if youa re playign games, and you start at 50% charged and after 2 hours it shows less, than that means the device is draining more power than the charger is providing to the device. Which menas the device is basically running off the chargers power itself. But even a laptop will slowly charge even with heavy usage in a reasonable amount of time.

This post has been edited by QUADICON: 22 March 2012 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:21 AM

View Postcrosswordbob, on 22 March 2012 - 08:15 AM, said:

View PostQUADICON, on 22 March 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

The problem is not that the battery is failing to charge. It is simply that the iPad is drawing the power faster than the charger can keep up with it. Thsu the battery appears to not be charging. It is charging, just very slow.

The only way to circumvent that is to use a higher voltage charger. However that has an issue to itself. A faster higher voltage charge also creates more heat while charging.

In fact it's current, not voltage that would speed up recharging. A higher voltage would likely damage the device.

Thanks for the correction. At least this time you understood what I was trying to say.
I shoudl have said if you increase the wattage of the charger it would charge the device faster...

For example, a 90w charger on a laptop would recharge a 6 cell battery faster than a 65w one.

This post has been edited by QUADICON: 22 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

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