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[mrwhite]

Intel... Nervous?

Plus, Ultrabooks will still run Windows which in its self is NOT a better value at all period, end of story. Keep trying to fool people and it won't work.

[mrwhite]

Also, we've heard these stories before from other companies with high, only to be shut down or not producing that product any more. Time to move along.

[mrwhite]

One last thing, Apple never does market research and never has. Who's doing better in almost every tech segment? Apple. Consumers are stupid, period, they don't know what they want until a product is released, so they are basing all of their wants on products that already exist.

[SirTekaLotw6xs]

Bullshit!

[karthiq]

1)Macbook airs are technically ultrabooks.

2)ipads cost half the price of ultrabooks.

3)Normal laptops can also get things done for again...half the price of ultrabooks.


''Conventional'' ultrabooks will find the going tough. Ultrabooks with swivel or detachable touch screens with an attractive price could find the journey interesting.

[Evildave]

Intel tells us about 'choice', while they back Microsoft's desktop OS monopoly for all they're worth.

A Linux ultrabook with 100% compatibility would be nice.

And the slimmest, lightest, prettiest ones will be every bit as 'pricey' as a Macbook Air, and every bit as 'underpowered', compared to the big, cheap, overweight notebook cows you can get.

[RygelTm]

felt like the answers were all vague and nothing really specific or concrete of what these Ultrabooks really offer better

[AakashGupta]

your reply seems logical but i wonder if apple doesn't do any research et al for products like ipads and iphones.......

mrwhite, on 30 March 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

One last thing, Apple never does market research and never has. Who's doing better in almost every tech segment? Apple. Consumers are stupid, period, they don't know what they want until a product is released, so they are basing all of their wants on products that already exist.

[GrahamKlerks]

AakashGupta, on 31 March 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

your reply seems logical but i wonder if apple doesn't do any research et al for products like ipads and iphones.......

mrwhite, on 30 March 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

One last thing, Apple never does market research and never has. Who's doing better in almost every tech segment? Apple. Consumers are stupid, period, they don't know what they want until a product is released, so they are basing all of their wants on products that already exist.

The people knew they wanted a simple MP3 player. God knows, I did - I bought an iPod Nano after getting frustrated with my little Sony MP3 player - loading the songs on, not it's actual use though.

The people also knew they wanted a simple Phone - something at the time alot of 'experts' were saying would surely fail. Apple saw another oppurtunity here to offer a simple product - compared to Nokia's Symbian, Windows Mobile, and the 'dumb' OS' offered by other Mobile manufacturer's. I've never owned an iPhone, but I can see the appeal.

iPad's, another device that would surely fail. The numbers speak for itself.

I don't see how the Macbook Air doesn't offer those features that Ultrabooks do ?

The future is touch though, he's right about that, shame Intel haven't got a chip to compete in the space at the moment. (Hence the 'need' for Ultrabooks - giving them time to develop a chip that is more power efficient.)

[jwojewidka]

The category name, Ultrabook, was necessary to draw attention to what is just an evolved class of notebook. The advances mentioned were well established ideas for improvement from the first day a portable hit the market. The Air, though a great piece, is underpowered and overpriced. And most of what we've seen so far from the Windows crowd is much of the same; a necessary step to better products.

The first great product in this category will be the Lenovo Yoga. From there, things will start to get much more interesting. Really thrilled to see the commitment to advancement. Gives us all more choices, and much better experiences.

[HankRearden]

OMG... What a crock...

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Intel: "Ultra" means pinnacle, and we wanted the Ultrabook to be the pinnacle of everything that users have come to expect from their computing device. So we did extensive research into what users' expectations were for their mobile computing devices, and there were four things that really stood out.

Users want ultra-responsiveness in their devices (you turn it on and it just works, with no interruptions); the ability to take their devices everywhere, with great battery life and connectivity; devices that just look cool and feel great; and products they don't have to worry about when it comes to security.

They did extensive research??? That's a laugh. You guys copied Apple pure and simple. And it took you guys YEARS to do it. Pathetic.

[mikedgolf40505]

Look I own three Macs; two MacBook Pros and one White MacBook; I love my Macs. But one thing I must honestly ask is about hype surrounding the MacBook Air. We always here how HOT it is; and it is a gorgeous machine, but we never here sales figures. When Apple used to list the best sellers in their store, on the right side of the webpage; it was never there. Even the iMac and MacMini outsold it. At the price point it enters in and the very limited storage; it is just not fully realized yet. The target consumer, being young hip people and students, have enough stored in their iTunes library to fill up three Airs. I think that the hybrid drives that some of the PC makers are putting in their ultraportable and ultrabooks are the way to go until the price of SSDs come down. I am really shocked that Apple has not offered this in the Pro line yet. I need to replace my wife's very old first generation MacBook Pro and I am hoping that the newest generation coming out soon will feature some type of hybrid drive option. I just don't know if their is room enough inside an Air for a hybrid drive.

[Evildave]

I like my MBA. It's light enough, small enough, long running enough, pretty enough, etc.

A big portable, like most windoze 'desktop replacement' machines (which is the closest thing that the windoze PC market did to 'innovating' before they began slavishly copying Apple) don't run long without a power outlet, they're too heavy, they're too bulky, they cook your lap, and they suck in every measurable way, except the 'performance' that you can't access unless you put the 'portable' on a desk and use it there, pretty much exclusively. They're only 'portable' in the same way that appliances that can fit into a pickup truck are 'portable'.

So Apple makes a light, small, capable machine, and it sells really well. I guess over a million a quarter, but with the 'ultrabook' push, sales of the MBA machines is going UP, not down.
http://news.cnet.com...arket-heats-up/

Of course, as the windoze lusers are quick to point out, that million per quarter is as nothing compared to the combined output of every windoze crapbox manufacturer in the world combined. Any ten of those Windoze crapbox manufacturers don't turn out that many computers and sell them through, and their margin is so slim that they die off like flies, and take their warranties with them to the grave.

Just like a good bakery that makes delicious pastries doesn't compete with every Hostess factory in the world, churning out bland, flavorless, corn-syrup soaked crap in shrinkwrap. There's clearly a bigger market for all of that spongy, chemical soaked swill to buy next to the week old convenience store hotdogs, than anything with flavor.

But I'd rather have the fresh baked pastry, and a cup of coffee.

Or in the case of the computer, the one that clearly does the job for me, without any real compromises.

250GB of FAST storage that won't vanish if I bump my computer the wrong way is kind of nice. Even with a lot of heavy duty development and art tools, and data, I still have half of that storage free.

Hours and hours of unplugged runtime is also nice. I can take it anywhere, and just use it.

[Pixelator]

Nope. The secret is the interface, and there the Mac is superior. Much superior. As with the iPad, iPhone and iPod.

[PaulLivio]

Well for those people that like a Mac osx , great. Its easy to use and fairly simple to work with on a daily basis. The windows OS has die hard s as well and it is also easy to use and fairly problem free, with unlimited configuration for your specific use. Linix ,Great freeware, not so self explanatory, and fora everyday user just not as practiacal.all three have a Ultra book companion.SO a 2.1 i-7 QUAD CORE TOUCH SCREEN PC , will cost you 1799.00, So will a compatible Mac book air or even pro.If not a few hundred more.Idont see the big deal and why everyone is so angry at these machines.the ability to be light and powerful is coming and noby seems to be excited.the Mac book air is under power for the price right now, think for the future this will help both sides.

[Evildave]

So buy your smudgy-screened windoze 'ultrabook'.

Some people buy an Apple and stick windoze on it. Kind of a waste, but there's no accounting for taste.

Intel took Apple's demands for low power, high performance CPUs and are now trying to market that to everyone. Good for PCs in general. Intel's little bit of payback for Apple's rude insistence on quality parts with good specs, is they will sell the quality parts to everyone else.

[levubinh]

I like the idea, it's just the price point still feels too high. If only they make it more affordable without the "cheap" feeling, I'm all for it.

[waldojim]

Evildave, on 05 April 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

So buy your smudgy-screened windoze 'ultrabook'.

Some people buy an Apple and stick windoze on it. Kind of a waste, but there's no accounting for taste.

Intel took Apple's demands for low power, high performance CPUs and are now trying to market that to everyone. Good for PCs in general. Intel's little bit of payback for Apple's rude insistence on quality parts with good specs, is they will sell the quality parts to everyone else.

Sorry... last I checked, Apple notebooks use slightly (barely?) above average screens. Nothing like the high end Lenovo W520, or HP Elite Dream Color, or even the Dell RGB LED laptops... yet Apple wants more money than any of the above. Who has the smudgy screened crap again?

Oh and before you get into the who MBA argument, the X220 uses a 13" IPS display that also makes Apple MBA look like crap.

EDIT: Oh yes, and most of the above mentioned ship in Matte finish first, glossy for those who can't live without glare. Unlike some vendors that like reflecting the world into the users face... unless that user is willing to pay extra.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 05 April 2012 - 02:14 PM

[Evildave]

Waldojim, I'm sure you've never even looked at an Apple for fear of catching cooties.