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[gettysburg11s]

As someone who recently pre-ordered the Nokia Lumia 900 (and is coming from an iPhone 4), I can't say for sure until I get it, but I bet I won't agree with the negative comments some reviewers made. I am not saying they are wrong, but I believe the phone competes well with the iPhone. Sure, iPhone's screen is better, but everything else is either as good, or better on the 900. Competition with Android doesn't even matter. Android OS is not nearly as good, and the apps are pretty bad. The hardware is better, but only because Android demands so much power.

[CalHolfeld]

Steve Kovach said the display is "just play ugly" when compared to the iPhone?

I don't get that...I have the HTC Radar and anyone that I've shown has said the text is crisp and very clear. My guess is Mr Kovach is sporting an iPhone...

[CodeScritped]

As an investment banker I really appreciate the detailed round up of all the reviews provided in this one article. But what this fails to acknowledge is the real truth. You say the screen is bad or "Just plain ugly"? Just because of few pixels less, the screen becomes ugly? Really? You say 70000 apps available versus 600000 on iOS and 450000 on Android? Have you seen the apps download traffic data? 90% of downloaded apps are only 10% of the whole itunes store. Microsoft only went after the main apps. So their strategy is on the right path. You mean to tell me you have all 600000 apps on your iphone? have fun with all that clutter. Now lets get to a dual core versus single core. You mean to say just because more number of cores in a chip, makes it faster? Wrong again!! Are you trying to run gigantic computations and simulations on the phone? iOS and Android need two cores to do all that computing, and WP7 only needs one core to do the same task, means WP7 is a cleaner and faster os. Nokia has thought about all the parts that are going into L900 and they finally have understood how to come back (at least it seems as of right now). Phone is a simple device at the end of the day. Its really ment to conduct calls (primary task), and then added features will get you more productivity. You want to know the true drawback on iphone? it keeps droping calls like its going out of style. Now your Nokia on the other hand.... just doesn't know how to drop calls. And guess what is a phone realy suppose to do? (What is the primary task of a phone). Oh yeah I forgot, connect people.... wonder if nokia's logo "Connecting people" came from that

[GNexush6ge]

The author appears to be disingenously omitting the bottom line on some of the reviews and is cherry picking reviews. For example, the Ars Technica bottom line was,

"Compared to the similarly-priced iPhone 4, the Lumia 900 is a better choice, hands down.

I'm guessing the author is an iPhone user.

Go to http://wmpoweruser.c...review-roundup/ for a real review roundup.

You'll see the good and the bad.
All in all, it appears that the Lumia 900 rocks. There are a number of people out there that are having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they don't have the the only cool (or even the coolest) phone on the block any more. That's progress. Embrace it.

[JustinDory]

CodeScritped, on 04 April 2012 - 10:18 AM, said:

As an investment banker I really appreciate the detailed round up of all the reviews provided in this one article. But what this fails to acknowledge is the real truth. You say the screen is bad or "Just plain ugly"? Just because of few pixels less, the screen becomes ugly? Really? You say 70000 apps available versus 600000 on iOS and 450000 on Android? Have you seen the apps download traffic data? 90% of downloaded apps are only 10% of the whole itunes store. Microsoft only went after the main apps. So their strategy is on the right path. You mean to tell me you have all 600000 apps on your iphone? have fun with all that clutter. Now lets get to a dual core versus single core. You mean to say just because more number of cores in a chip, makes it faster? Wrong again!! Are you trying to run gigantic computations and simulations on the phone? iOS and Android need two cores to do all that computing, and WP7 only needs one core to do the same task, means WP7 is a cleaner and faster os. Nokia has thought about all the parts that are going into L900 and they finally have understood how to come back (at least it seems as of right now). Phone is a simple device at the end of the day. Its really ment to conduct calls (primary task), and then added features will get you more productivity. You want to know the true drawback on iphone? it keeps droping calls like its going out of style. Now your Nokia on the other hand.... just doesn't know how to drop calls. And guess what is a phone realy suppose to do? (What is the primary task of a phone). Oh yeah I forgot, connect people.... wonder if nokia's logo "Connecting people" came from that

I have to agree with you across the board. Many of my friends use and love their iPhones but for me I just don't get it. A quarter of the time I talk to one of my friends on an iPhone at some point the call drops. Like myself many of my friends use their phones for business calls and I can't believe they find it acceptable to drop calls so frequently. I'm absolutely a fan of apple as I'm heavily invested in their stock with my IRA and I love their products, but the phone I just don't get. When you pay $100 plus a month to carry around a phone it should be reliable and it seems the only thing the iPhone does reliably and better then the competition is music. Call me crazy but I want a phone that can make calls reliably first and foremost and that is why I'm loving the idea of grabbing the new Nokia Lumia 900. Nokia has never been a great innovator in phone tech but one thing they have always done better then the competition is give you a reliable PHONE. Plus, I truly believe windows is finally making great products. Windows 7 is a great OS finally, enterprise and office are better then ever, the zune music player is much much better then the dated interface Itunes still uses after 8 years. I believe this phone is just a start but MS really has something here and as long as they can get some buy in I think they can make some headway and correct the only fault I've seen thus far...Apps.

[JonDeMuria]

Ya against the iPhone 4 it's a decent but, but that phone is 18 months old.

[JonDeMuria]

GNexush6ge, on 04 April 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

The author appears to be disingenously omitting the bottom line on some of the reviews and is cherry picking reviews. For example, the Ars Technica bottom line was,

"Compared to the similarly-priced iPhone 4, the Lumia 900 is a better choice, hands down.

I'm guessing the author is an iPhone user.

Go to http://wmpoweruser.c...review-roundup/ for a real review roundup.

You'll see the good and the bad.
All in all, it appears that the Lumia 900 rocks. There are a number of people out there that are having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they don't have the the only cool (or even the coolest) phone on the block any more. That's progress. Embrace it.

The iPhone 4 is 18 months old.

[havasu46]

Do you think the fact that Apple's market cap is the largest in IT is tainting some of these reviews?

[SamWax]

I'm not sure how 800x480 compared to 960x640 is 'just plain ugly.' There is serious herd mentality on Apple products and stock right now.

Yes... go ahead lemmings. Follow it into $750+ range. You will *never* see your stock go up. The more iPhone's that are out there, the less cool they will be. And remember, Apple built it's 'fashion technology' world on coolness. It's a house of cards people.

Look for Windows to grab 10-20% market share, mostly at RIM's and the low-end phone expense.

[GNexush6ge]

Very true. The point the author was making was that it was being compared against a phone at a similar price point that was a market leader. So, you can buy a WP7 for $99 that is comparing favorably with new phones, or, you can spend about the same amount of money for a phone 18 months old.

[QUADICON]

gettysburg11s, on 04 April 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:

As someone who recently pre-ordered the Nokia Lumia 900 (and is coming from an iPhone 4), I can't say for sure until I get it, but I bet I won't agree with the negative comments some reviewers made. I am not saying they are wrong, but I believe the phone competes well with the iPhone. Sure, iPhone's screen is better, but everything else is either as good, or better on the 900. Competition with Android doesn't even matter. Android OS is not nearly as good, and the apps are pretty bad. The hardware is better, but only because Android demands so much power.

Android doesn't demand a lot of power. Android orginal ran on processors slower than 600Mhz and it still can depending on yor feature set. Theer are brand new Android phones being released with processors that are single core and less than 600Mhz clocked.

If you want top tier features like full muti-tasking, steller resolutions and better cameras and similar, then yes, you do need a powerful device. Hwoever, theer are higher clocked single core phones that do all that without fancier hardware inside. Get your facts straight.

I do agree 100% with you in saying these critics are wrong. They are all hypocrites, especially here at PCW. They alwaus say, specs don't metter but the user experience does. Well, Windows Phone has one of the highest rated user experiences. It faster than most devices, sports top tier cameras thanks to Carl Zeiss and it sports a seteller design. The proprietery AMOLED display Nokia uses is made by them and for their phone sonly. It is actually superior to Samsung's own AMOLED or Super AMOLED displays. The colors are bright and shiny and direct light doesn't wash them out. The iPhone may ahve a higher resolution, but in direct light, especially sunlight, it is unusable period. The screen is to small for web browsing, and it isn't even 4G capable, even though some form of 4G has been avail in the USA since 2008/9.

This devices smokes the iPhone in where it matters more. It doesn't matter than its a single core CPU. First off, the OS installed doesn't support multiple cores and neither does the phone need it.

According to what I can find, the 900 uses the Adreno 205 GPU chipset. Certainly not top of the line, nor does it need to be for the early apps avail on Microsoft's Market. More than sufficient for Angry Birds. The phone is using older components that are cheaper to make and sell, thus why the phone is only $99 on contract.

At least Nokia isn't being like APple and sell you a computer using 5 year old components and selling them for the same or more cost than computers running more recent hardware...which we saw where Apple was still selling teh Air with Core 2 Duo for $1000 when you could get a new laptop sporting 1st gen Core for $750...hmmmmm!

At least this device is 4G, at least it has a very nice camera. All you can really hype about iPhone is the screen. But what good is having the highest pixel count, when you can only see it in the dark or shaded area?

Even with a 1.4Ghz single core CPU, the phone's web browser support full hardware acceleration, and test show it handles frame rates better than even the iPhone on many web pages. http://news.softpedi...ly-184489.shtml

At that link it shows that even when IE9 Mobile was in beta, it kicked Safari arse with handling images that moved. If the video dosn't load, it is avail on Youtube.

Specs don't tell the story. But see this is where the hyprocisy of the fanboi writers come in. When it coems to iPhone specs don't matter, only th user experience does. But when the comparison is made of a phone that has lesser physical specs, then they diss that device for not having such. Yet they NEVER bashed Apple for being nealy 2 years behind many hardware capabilities of phones running Android.

Dualcore devices have been avail since late 2009. High resolution displays were avail in late 2009. 4G was avail in 2009. Wheer is the 4G iPhone...and here Microsoft has its first awarding winnign flagship device in a very long time and look, it at least sports much of today's technologies...yet iphone is 5 years old and it doesn't.

I wanted this device, until Samsung released the Note and I prefer it. But I won't buy either unless it comes to Verizon.

[QUADICON]

JustinDory, on 04 April 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

CodeScritped, on 04 April 2012 - 10:18 AM, said:

As an investment banker I really appreciate the detailed round up of all the reviews provided in this one article. But what this fails to acknowledge is the real truth. You say the screen is bad or "Just plain ugly"? Just because of few pixels less, the screen becomes ugly? Really? You say 70000 apps available versus 600000 on iOS and 450000 on Android? Have you seen the apps download traffic data? 90% of downloaded apps are only 10% of the whole itunes store. Microsoft only went after the main apps. So their strategy is on the right path. You mean to tell me you have all 600000 apps on your iphone? have fun with all that clutter. Now lets get to a dual core versus single core. You mean to say just because more number of cores in a chip, makes it faster? Wrong again!! Are you trying to run gigantic computations and simulations on the phone? iOS and Android need two cores to do all that computing, and WP7 only needs one core to do the same task, means WP7 is a cleaner and faster os. Nokia has thought about all the parts that are going into L900 and they finally have understood how to come back (at least it seems as of right now). Phone is a simple device at the end of the day. Its really ment to conduct calls (primary task), and then added features will get you more productivity. You want to know the true drawback on iphone? it keeps droping calls like its going out of style. Now your Nokia on the other hand.... just doesn't know how to drop calls. And guess what is a phone realy suppose to do? (What is the primary task of a phone). Oh yeah I forgot, connect people.... wonder if nokia's logo "Connecting people" came from that

The reson why the iPhone is great at music is because it is an iPod. The iPod Touch is actually the first device Apple made that ran the original iPhone OS. They released the iPhone first to get a step ahead of Android which was developing along a similar path. The assumption is, the first one out the gate had the idea first, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

You both made very good valid points. iPhone is great for games, great for style, sucks for what si suppose to be the most important feature; phone calls. When I get calls from someone using an ATT iPhone, like my partner, it always sound like he is on speaker phone even when he is standing still. The call quality is horrible and its only slightly better on the Verizon model.

I have to agree with you across the board. Many of my friends use and love their iPhones but for me I just don't get it. A quarter of the time I talk to one of my friends on an iPhone at some point the call drops. Like myself many of my friends use their phones for business calls and I can't believe they find it acceptable to drop calls so frequently. I'm absolutely a fan of apple as I'm heavily invested in their stock with my IRA and I love their products, but the phone I just don't get. When you pay $100 plus a month to carry around a phone it should be reliable and it seems the only thing the iPhone does reliably and better then the competition is music. Call me crazy but I want a phone that can make calls reliably first and foremost and that is why I'm loving the idea of grabbing the new Nokia Lumia 900. Nokia has never been a great innovator in phone tech but one thing they have always done better then the competition is give you a reliable PHONE. Plus, I truly believe windows is finally making great products. Windows 7 is a great OS finally, enterprise and office are better then ever, the zune music player is much much better then the dated interface Itunes still uses after 8 years. I believe this phone is just a start but MS really has something here and as long as they can get some buy in I think they can make some headway and correct the only fault I've seen thus far...Apps.