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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:04 AM

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#2 User is offline   ChasL 

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  Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:04 AM

Mr. Dunn, please fact check. Most of the sites defaced were private businesses.

The list Anonymous China release only had a handful of local government websites, like business district improment project, neighborhood watch, welfare office.
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#3 User is offline   TheOldTopkick 

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  Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:47 AM

Annonymous lives for this kind of recognition. The only answer is to ignore them. I am sorry that any site is maliciously defaced. Doing what may appear to be good does not excuse malicious hacking.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:03 PM

View PostTheOldTopkick, on 06 April 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Annonymous lives for this kind of recognition. The only answer is to ignore them. I am sorry that any site is maliciously defaced. Doing what may appear to be good does not excuse malicious hacking.


MALICIOUS HACKERS! SOMEONE SHOULD STOP THEM! WAAAA! go home and cry to mommy. You live in a country where your fore fathers fought against laws and tyranny of oppressive government for the freedoms you exercise. Just because you take them for granted and all is neat and orderly (for now) on your street, don't knock those who are suppressed or you will be next.
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  Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

So What!!!

They proved that they can cause some unwanted mischief. Nothing more!

Did their actions bring about change? NO!

Will their actions bring about change? NO!

Have they done anything which has brought about good? NO!

Will they ever grow up, come back to reality and realize they are doing what amounts to a child throwing a temper tantrum? NO!

Does anyone expect they will pi$$ off the wrong person someday and just disappear?
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:30 PM

View Postchosenson, on 06 April 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

So What!!!

They proved that they can cause some unwanted mischief. Nothing more!

Did their actions bring about change? NO!

Will their actions bring about change? NO!

Have they done anything which has brought about good? NO!

Will they ever grow up, come back to reality and realize they are doing what amounts to a child throwing a temper tantrum? NO!

Does anyone expect they will pi$$ off the wrong person someday and just disappear?


I think they've already pissed off plenty of people. Further they are not an actual unified organization, which someone could just make disappear if they wanted. At best they could merely drive them underground. Not that they're exactly comparable but its like saying one day the racists are gonna piss off the wrong person and will just disappear.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

View PostAskquestionsfirst, on 06 April 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostTheOldTopkick, on 06 April 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Annonymous lives for this kind of recognition. The only answer is to ignore them. I am sorry that any site is maliciously defaced. Doing what may appear to be good does not excuse malicious hacking.


MALICIOUS HACKERS! SOMEONE SHOULD STOP THEM! WAAAA! go home and cry to mommy. You live in a country where your fore fathers fought against laws and tyranny of oppressive government for the freedoms you exercise.

False equivalency.

Our forefathers did not engage in wanton vandalism or the theft and public disclosure of private information.

Anon and its ilk are puerile egocentric publicity seeking vandals, not at all like our forefathers.
While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:44 PM

View Postchosenson, on 06 April 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Does anyone expect they will pi$ off the wrong person someday and just disappear?

Taking on the Chinese, home of some of the world's best hackers in the employ of the government, may have done just that.
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  Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:10 PM

[censored] you all! maybe our forefathers didnt commit wanton acts of vandalism but our fore fathers fore fathers probably had to. i mean it has to all come from somewhere. it's newtons 3rd at its base, for every force there is an equal and opposite force. so if the initial push(chinese government) is small, the response will be small, and if in 200 years, the push is of totalitarian quantities, then the collective consciousness will respond appropriately.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:34 PM

Using that argument, we who are tired of Anon's vandalism and theft of private information are justified in taking them down by whatever means necessary.

Pay-back can be a bitch.

This post has been edited by deepsand: 06 April 2012 - 05:35 PM

While each is entitled to his own opinion, no one is entitled to his own facts.
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#11 User is offline   chosenson 

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:44 PM

View Postdeepsand, on 06 April 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Using that argument, we who are tired of Anon's vandalism and theft of private information are justified in taking them down by whatever means necessary.

Pay-back can be a bitch.


EXACTLY! :)
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  Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:20 PM

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:28 AM

View PostChasL, on 06 April 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Mr. Dunn, please fact check. Most of the sites defaced were private businesses.

The list Anonymous China release only had a handful of local government websites, like business district improment project, neighborhood watch, welfare office.

proof?
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  Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:20 AM

I personally would like to see Anonymous focus there expertise on ridding the world of the creator's of Malware,Trojans & Viruses that effect us all. Freedom comes naturally when we remove the delusions of what we think to what we know to be real
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  Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:24 AM

You are heroes. Keep up the excellent work.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:57 AM

View Postwimstock, on 07 April 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

I personally would like to see Anonymous focus there expertise on ridding the world of the creator's of Malware,Trojans & Viruses that effect us all. Freedom comes naturally when we remove the delusions of what we think to what we know to be real


Don't you think maybe some of the Anonymous script kiddies are the same malware writers? How else do they gain control over so many machines for their antiquated DDOS attacks? (Expertise - I hardly think so.)
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

The fact that Anon/LulzSec are known to have have made several failed attempts at taking control of existing bot nets suggests that they lack the skills and patience necessary for creating their own.

And, bear in mind that the owners of many existing bot nets aggressively defend their zombies against would be competitors; and, that they earn income by renting out use of their nets.

In light of the recent report of Anon having stealthily redirected users to a URL known to be used for creating zombies for a particular bot net, it may be the case that Anon is now using, or looking to use, the services of said net.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 03:05 PM

View PostKevinFowler, on 07 April 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

You are heroes. Keep up the excellent work.

Please share with us just one positive change in corporate and/or public policy that has come from the antics of Anonymous or other group of cowardly vandals. Just one. I'll bet you can't do it. As for calling them heros, what's heroic about skulking in the shadows and hiding their identities? To rise to the level of heroic shouldn't there be some risk involved? It appears to me that your heros come cheap.
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  Posted 08 April 2012 - 12:11 PM

Because all heroes are martyrs right? Or better yet all heroes have faces. You know like the Washington memorial of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. As far as satisfying your challenge of identifying "one good thing" Anonymous has done. Well, if you notice in the right margin under "Similar Articles" there's an editorial titled, "Hacker Collective Anonymous Strikes at Child Porn Sites." Only a pedophile wouldn't consider this to be a good thing. You sure live up to your name sir -- nonseq.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostFisticuffs, on 08 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Because all heroes are martyrs right? Or better yet all heroes have faces. You know like the Washington memorial of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. As far as satisfying your challenge of identifying "one good thing" Anonymous has done. Well, if you notice in the right margin under "Similar Articles" there's an editorial titled, "Hacker Collective Anonymous Strikes at Child Porn Sites." Only a pedophile wouldn't consider this to be a good thing. You sure live up to your name sir -- nonseq.


Anonymous may have tried to strike at child porn sites, but did they effect a positive change as a result of their actions?

nonseq said:

Please share with us just one positive change in corporate and/or public policy that has come from the antics of Anonymous or other group of cowardly vandals.


nonseq asked for PROOF of one positive change. They may have had good intentions when they struck at the child porn sites, but they certainly didn't change a thing. I didn't hear of any child porn site operators being arrested. The sites weren't permanently disabled. No pedo's arrested as a result. NADA, NOTHING! So what good did they do?

PS: Striking at someones pseudonym, is childish. Doing so when you have no clue what their pseudonym is about, why they chose it, ...., is foolish.
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