[Hotelguy]

Internet2k4, on 09 April 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

Still using conversions of the old .crd "cardfile" to store recipes, liquor and computer tips started with W3.1 - though using a different app to load and maintain them.

[jorgemt]

MOVING BEYOND? Windows 3.1 was a file manager thrown on top of DOS. Even now I still get Windows XP machines stalling while trying to access an absent floppy disk. I don't have Windows 7 PCs with floppy disk drives, so I guess THAT problem was solved! Moving beyond, my virtual butt.

[jorgemt]

MOVING BEYOND? Windows 3.1 was a file manager thrown on top of DOS. Even now I still get Windows XP machines stalling while trying to access an absent floppy disk. I don't have Windows 7 PCs with floppy disk drives, so I guess THAT problem was solved! Moving beyond, my virtual butt.

[Hotelguy]

Hotelguy, on 09 April 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

Internet2k4, on 09 April 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

Still using conversions of the old .crd "cardfile" to store recipes, liquor and computer tips started with W3.1 - though using a different app to load and maintain them.

crd.cardfile what a great apps. I had over 1,200 names stored. Does NOT work with Windows7. However, goto: http://www.azzcardfile.com/ and it will convert all your crd.cardfile. Good luck.

This post has been edited by Hotelguy: 09 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

[Ericbqlb]

I still remember following John Dvorak's code for creating a DOS prompt which said "Windows Sucks" with a colorful picture next to it. I also recall the first "affordable" mouse -- it was priced at $24.95 and was a cheap generic mouse. I'm blanking on which company came out with it, but I think it was one of the shareware places. Prior to that, buying a mouse meant invest $100 or more for one of the tiny handful of such devices available. Of course, under DOS, a mouse didn't do much anyway...

Ah the good old days of "abort, retry fail."

[waldojim]

Sarah Jacobsson Purewal, on 09 April 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

Windows 3.1!!! The first operating system I remember. Yes, guys, I am that young.

Thanks for making me feel old! My first Windows was 1.01. I ran that on my Kaypro 8088 with all 768k ram, and 20MB of hard drive space... I thought that was the cats meow at the time.

[jack58]

Yeah, I remember. Some of those icon/programs are still around like the control panel, paintbrush, notepad and more. Why change a good thing!

[mipa]

Windows 8 looks like windows for workgroups! Tiled format view! Serious!

[jumbydog]

waldojim, on 09 April 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sarah Jacobsson Purewal, on 09 April 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

Windows 3.1!!! The first operating system I remember. Yes, guys, I am that young.

Thanks for making me feel old! My first Windows was 1.01. I ran that on my Kaypro 8088 with all 768k ram, and 20MB of hard drive space... I thought that was the cats meow at the time.

My first was DOS! Now that really makes me feel old!

[damitch]

20 years and Task Manager still has trouble closing non responding programs often requiring a hard reboot.

[GypsyJon]

Lordy, y'all a bunch of kids. My first operating system was CPM

[GypsyJon]

waldojim, on 09 April 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sarah Jacobsson Purewal, on 09 April 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

Windows 3.1!!! The first operating system I remember. Yes, guys, I am that young.

Thanks for making me feel old! My first Windows was 1.01. I ran that on my Kaypro 8088 with all 768k ram, and 20MB of hard drive space... I thought that was the cats meow at the time.

I ran DOS on. Panasonic Senior Partner, with..TaDa...2 floppie drives and 256k RAM. That thing was "luggable". I think it weighed 34 pounds.

But it did have a built in printer, heat sensitive paper.

This post has been edited by GypsyJon: 09 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

[JimH443]

My first was an Atari 400, with all of 16kb RAM. External storage was a cassette recorder.
Yes, Win 3.1 did have a registry - it's just that few programs made much use of it.

[DanielaCasetta]

geez, and now i feel old!

[temp64]

GypsyJon, on 09 April 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

Lordy, y'all a bunch of kids. My first operating system was CPM

Me too, on an old Kaypro.

[artzy65]

Boletusedulis, on 09 April 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

If only they had kept the name "File Manager" instead of "Windows Explorer," a whole lot of pain teaching people how to manage their systems could have been avoided.

And everything MS has done to "simplify" file management since then has only created more confusion. "My Documents," "My Computer," "Documents and Settings," etc, etc only served to confuse the directory structure.

If they stuck with File Manager and forced people to learn the basic directory structure of their PCs, a world of idiocy could have been avoided.

Agreed... and the idiocy of having to click on the Start button in order to get to Shut Down lol. Ironically enough, a poster elsewhere called that Windows Explorer thing brilliant, and that Mac was 'a** backwards.' I wonder what he'd say about Microsoft's attempts to simplify and streamline the UI like OS X. In that regard, I think Windows users often equate OS X's simple, clean, streamlined UI with an absence of depth, capability, and functionality. Mac users see it as stripping away the extraneous and getting right to the point. As a humorous example of just what is necessary, in the 'less-is-more' sense, a famous sculptor, when asked how he would sculpt an elephant, replied 'I would get a block of granite and a chisel, and remove that which is not an elephant.'

Sorry mods.. a little off topic.. now duck as the haters weigh in lol

This post has been edited by artzy65: 09 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

[IanRobbo]

OH BOY!!! What memories this SS triggered. (And mostly happy ones too!)

[LOCASTE]

Boletusedulis, on 09 April 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

If only they had kept the name "File Manager" instead of "Windows Explorer," a whole lot of pain teaching people how to manage their systems could have been avoided.

And everything MS has done to "simplify" file management since then has only created more confusion. "My Documents," "My Computer," "Documents and Settings," etc, etc only served to confuse the directory structure.

If they stuck with File Manager and forced people to learn the basic directory structure of their PCs, a world of idiocy could have been avoided.

Since you have been the first I've seen to actually put this to words, YES, I agree with your contentions.

[JimH443]

LOCASTE, on 10 April 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Boletusedulis, on 09 April 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

If only they had kept the name "File Manager" instead of "Windows Explorer," a whole lot of pain teaching people how to manage their systems could have been avoided.

And everything MS has done to "simplify" file management since then has only created more confusion. "My Documents," "My Computer," "Documents and Settings," etc, etc only served to confuse the directory structure.

If they stuck with File Manager and forced people to learn the basic directory structure of their PCs, a world of idiocy could have been avoided.

Since you have been the first I've seen to actually put this to words, YES, I agree with your contentions.

This would have been easier to "force" if M$ had stuck with MS-DOS and never released Windows. GUI's appeal most to those who don't want to be forced to learn more than they absolutely have to about their hardware.

I'd be just fine if the majority of software released was compatible with DOS. I wish it were - it'd run faster and require less hardware. That GUI driven machines can even begin to play games in real time is a testament to the advances in hardware.

[Internet2k4]

Cathlin, on 09 April 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

Cardfile was great! I wish it worked with Windows 7. Nothing can quite replace it. All the new address book programs have too much additional crap added to them.

Agree you should have a look at AZZ Cardfile as someone above suggests - fancier and more resource demanding but even more flexible. I think it still imports the old .crd files.

This post has been edited by Internet2k4: 10 April 2012 - 05:07 AM