[Rommel]

Being I am hoping to get 2,+ speed at perhaps 9 CAS max, ( hoping that that is over all better than 1600 CAS 7 or 8 ) but wanting to get a better deal than what I'm seeing.

Do you guys see a problem using this RAM for now?
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227496

It is desiigned for AMD BE CPUs.
Its voltage of 1.65 is max recommended.

This will be 4X2= 8gigs.
Each pair purchased is a match.

Its currently running at 1066 7-7-7-21 2T

May have to assemble this thing soon.

I understand it's not XMP.

[LiveBrianD]

Yeah, that should work fine OOTB. I think most 1066MHz ram has those timings. (I know the stuff in my laptop is run that way - it has 1333MHz but underclocks it to 1066MHz.)

[waldojim]

Rommel, on 16 May 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Being I am hoping to get 2,+ speed at perhaps 9 CAS max, ( hoping that that is over all better than 1600 CAS 7 or 8 ) but wanting to get a better deal than what I'm seeing.

Do you guys see a problem using this RAM for now?
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227496

It is desiigned for AMD BE CPUs.
Its voltage of 1.65 is max recommended.

This will be 4X2= 8gigs.
Each pair purchased is a match.

Its currently running at 1066 7-7-7-21 2T

May have to assemble this thing soon.

I understand it's not XMP.

Apart from it being out of stock, you should be good!

[Rommel]

waldojim, on 16 May 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Rommel, on 16 May 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Being I am hoping to get 2,+ speed at perhaps 9 CAS max, ( hoping that that is over all better than 1600 CAS 7 or 8 ) but wanting to get a better deal than what I'm seeing.

Do you guys see a problem using this RAM for now?
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227496

It is desiigned for AMD BE CPUs.
Its voltage of 1.65 is max recommended.

This will be 4X2= 8gigs.
Each pair purchased is a match.

Its currently running at 1066 7-7-7-21 2T

May have to assemble this thing soon.

I understand it's not XMP.

Apart from it being out of stock, you should be good!

Not out of stock.
4 modules are in my current PC.

Guess what?
I located my zalman box and it only states that it can be mounted on a 478 socket, a bunch of AMDs and 775.
There is no hardware according to the instructions for an 1155 socket.

my 212 cooler master will but I can locate its hardware. Thats not like me.
Crap.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103065

I'll need to buy a mounting kit for the zalman to work.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835118223

This post has been edited by Rommel: 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM

[LiveBrianD]

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

[Rommel]

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Brian, you know intel much better than I do and I was feeling very disagreeable with you.
But after looking at zalmans site, my new mobo and zalman instructions I'm feeling more agreeable about it.

Whats confusing to me is the part number ZM-CS5A taken from neweggs site than searched at zalmans site shows mounting hardware I do not have.
But they are mounting my type of fan with it.

Part number ZM-CS5B I do have, and the screws, but it shows it mounted to a fan I do not have.

My thumb shows what I have and one finger pointing to the mounting clip looks like it will fasten to where my other finger is and mount how I currently have it mounted on my MSI board. <<-- If you fully understand that poorly structured sentance I'll be impressed!

Just don't like pictures showing what I don't have. The mounting bracket in the thumb is closer to my heatsink on mobo.

What do you say based on this?

part # ZM-CS5A
http://www.zalman.co...ead.asp?idx=364

part # ZM-CS5B
http://www.zalman.co...ead.asp?idx=365



Here's a pic of how the mount will sit on the mobo.
I do like how the ZM-CS5A is further from the caps and heatsink.
Perhaps it doesn't matter.

This post has been edited by Rommel: 16 May 2012 - 05:29 PM

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Nope. 775 is a smaller footprint.

[LiveBrianD]

My TX3 (which does NOT have a mount on the bottom) looks like this:


I had to screw in those 4 things on the bottom, and then that simply pushes into the socket. (just like the stock cooler) It looks like amd cpu coolers have little brackets on the side that clip over the cooler and into the motherboard, a style that Intel used back in the 478 days but hasn't used since (I have dealt with 478 btw, but not with amd sockets).

What exact model is your Zalman? My guess is that you keep the first part (I'm talking about the first pic you posted) where it is, and put the second part in the bottom, and somehow screw it together.

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Nope. 775 is a smaller footprint.

That's interesting... my tx3 has one set of mounting screws for Intel, and supports 775, 1156, and 1155, as well as a completely different set of mounting things for AMD.

[Rommel]

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

waldojim, on 16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Nope. 775 is a smaller footprint.

That's interesting... my tx3 has one set of mounting screws for Intel, and supports 775, 1156, and 1155, as well as a completely different set of mounting things for AMD.

This is my zalman,

http://www.newegg.co...ID=lmslrvyb0wk9
under the "details" tab, it mentions the part# ZM-CS5A which my kit doesn't have.

The picture in my prior post is joined by 4 screws which I have so I can mount it.

2 questions or concerns.
The mount I have has a bigger O.D. than the part # I posted.
Is that a big deal over the caps and close to the heatsink on mobo?
Showed in previous post picture.

Second, is their a hieght differance?
May not know till I try.
That part ZM-CS5A is free shipping and $7 at newegg but out of stock.
Some nice ppl on ebay are asking $22.

This post has been edited by Rommel: 16 May 2012 - 06:09 PM

[LiveBrianD]

Ahh, I get it now. I just looked at the manual: http://www.zalman.co...ead.asp?idx=277, page 6, and it looks like that piece you showed in the first pic (that doesn't have flat sides) sits on top, and you simply have washers on the bottom to hold it in place. Say, do the holes for the screws on the cooler (see the top-right of the manual page I mentioned) allow you to have the screws in slightly different positions? (if so, I guess you don't need another bracket)

If not, try contacting Zalman for the part - I've heard that sometimes companies will give you accessories that the product later shipped with for free if you don't already have them.

[waldojim]

Rommel, on 16 May 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

waldojim, on 16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Nope. 775 is a smaller footprint.

That's interesting... my tx3 has one set of mounting screws for Intel, and supports 775, 1156, and 1155, as well as a completely different set of mounting things for AMD.

This is my zalman,

http://www.newegg.co...ID=lmslrvyb0wk9
under the "details" tab, it mentions the part# ZM-CS5A which my kit doesn't have.

The picture in my prior post is joined by 4 screws which I have so I can mount it.

2 questions or concerns.
The mount I have has a bigger O.D. than the part # I posted.
Is that a big deal over the caps and close to the heatsink on mobo?
Showed in previous post picture.

Second, is their a hieght differance?
May not know till I try.
That part ZM-CS5A is free shipping and $7 at newegg but out of stock.
Some nice ppl on ebay are asking $22.

I know mine have all fit over top of the caps easily enough, so I doubt that will be a problem. The hardest part is getting the stupid metal clips to fit in place.

[coastie65]

Rommel, on 16 May 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

waldojim, on 16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 16 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

775, 1156, and 1155 coolers use the same mount and thus your Zalman should be fine.

Nope. 775 is a smaller footprint.

That's interesting... my tx3 has one set of mounting screws for Intel, and supports 775, 1156, and 1155, as well as a completely different set of mounting things for AMD.

This is my zalman,

http://www.newegg.co...ID=lmslrvyb0wk9
under the "details" tab, it mentions the part# ZM-CS5A which my kit doesn't have.

The picture in my prior post is joined by 4 screws which I have so I can mount it.

2 questions or concerns.
The mount I have has a bigger O.D. than the part # I posted.
Is that a big deal over the caps and close to the heatsink on mobo?
Showed in previous post picture.

Second, is their a hieght differance?
May not know till I try.
That part ZM-CS5A is free shipping and $7 at newegg but out of stock.
Some nice ppl on ebay are asking $22.

Hey Rommel, Yeah, I just found the note for that: " Note: Customers that purchased coolers before the inclusion of support for socket 1155/1156, can purchase the separately sold ZM-CS5A or ZM-CS5B mounting kit for installation onto socket 1155/1156. The mounting kit ZM-CS4A can be purchased separately for installation onto socket 1366 ". You Might try TigerDirect if Newegg doesn't have the kit.

[Rommel]

@ Brian.

I tried your suggestion but zalman did not agree to a complementary mounting kit and I didn't ask twice.
It was $5 for the kit including getting it to the door.
I was pretty sure what I had would had been fine but what a terrible time to be wrong with everything apart so $5 guarantees its right.

Hopefully, in between all the little projects going on, I'll catch a brake and assemble the upgrade.

http://www.zalman.co...ead.asp?idx=364

This post has been edited by Rommel: 25 May 2012 - 06:46 PM

[LiveBrianD]

Oh well, I guess you'll have to shell out an extra $5. At least you tried.

[waldojim]

Interesting Ivy Bridge tid-bit for those who haven't been keeping up too well (admittedly, I am one of them):
Intel's new TIM causing the overheating problems when overclocking.

Quote

The findings are undisputable. By swapping out the TIM with OCZ Freeze and Coolaboratory Liquid Pro, they were able to lower the temperatures by up to 18% off a stock clocked chip, and a whopping 23% when overclocked from 3.5GHz to 4GHz. Chips with the aftermarket TIM were also able to sustain higher core voltages, which of course will lead to better overclocking potential.

This is the TIM under that heatspreader they don't want you removing. It seems to me that this will be the new "extreme" method for overclocking.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 26 May 2012 - 06:53 AM

[Rommel]

waldojim, on 26 May 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

Interesting Ivy Bridge tid-bit for those who haven't been keeping up too well (admittedly, I am one of them):
Intel's new TIM causing the overheating problems when overclocking.

Quote

The findings are undisputable. By swapping out the TIM with OCZ Freeze and Coolaboratory Liquid Pro, they were able to lower the temperatures by up to 18% off a stock clocked chip, and a whopping 23% when overclocked from 3.5GHz to 4GHz. Chips with the aftermarket TIM were also able to sustain higher core voltages, which of course will lead to better overclocking potential.

This is the TIM under that heatspreader they don't want you removing. It seems to me that this will be the new "extreme" method for overclocking.

Yeah, that sucks. Who's brainstorm was it?

I actually had been thinking of this WJ so being you brought it up let me ask this.
First, my Lian Li is roomy with a 140mm front fan, 1 120mm rear fan and 2 140mm top fans.
Going with my zalman, a better than average AMC, will be a decent enviroment.

Question, what help would it be, if any, to eigther, open a 120mm passive air vent on the case panel behind the cpu to allow the top fans, hopefull, greater air volume to pass behind the cpu or just install a fan there?

I know this is behind the cpu but perhaps this will help to some degree.
Yes, no, pointless?

[Rommel]

This morning I plugged my vertex 4 into my backup pc to update the destructive firmware.

First the drive wasn't seen in my computer though everywhere else.
Went to OCZs website and followed their instructions to go from IDE to ACHI but same results.

In disk manager, there was no R/C option that said initialize.
To be honest, I never ventured down this path.

But R/C did offer "new simple volume".
That was the ticket.
Downloaded OCZ's toolbox, used the utillity to update the firmware which made me have to reinitialize being its a destructive update, but the drive is ready for the upgrade.

Many small home projects but I'm trying to manage time to finailly getting this done.

[waldojim]

Rommel, on 26 May 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucks. Who's brainstorm was it?

I actually had been thinking of this WJ so being you brought it up let me ask this.
First, my Lian Li is roomy with a 140mm front fan, 1 120mm rear fan and 2 140mm top fans.
Going with my zalman, a better than average AMC, will be a decent enviroment.

Question, what help would it be, if any, to eigther, open a 120mm passive air vent on the case panel behind the cpu to allow the top fans, hopefull, greater air volume to pass behind the cpu or just install a fan there?

I know this is behind the cpu but perhaps this will help to some degree.
Yes, no, pointless?

I am not sure what location you are referring to... If you are talking about the side panel vent, I usually don't have anything in there as they interfere with taller cards. If tall cards aren't an issue, use it to bring in more air. If you are talking about the back of the case, then definitely YES you want an exhaust fan in there

[Rommel]

waldojim, on 26 May 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Rommel, on 26 May 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucks. Who's brainstorm was it?

I actually had been thinking of this WJ so being you brought it up let me ask this.
First, my Lian Li is roomy with a 140mm front fan, 1 120mm rear fan and 2 140mm top fans.
Going with my zalman, a better than average AMC, will be a decent enviroment.

Question, what help would it be, if any, to eigther, open a 120mm passive air vent on the case panel behind the cpu to allow the top fans, hopefull, greater air volume to pass behind the cpu or just install a fan there?

I know this is behind the cpu but perhaps this will help to some degree.
Yes, no, pointless?

I am not sure what location you are referring to... If you are talking about the side panel vent, I usually don't have anything in there as they interfere with taller cards. If tall cards aren't an issue, use it to bring in more air. If you are talking about the back of the case, then definitely YES you want an exhaust fan in there

Here WJ,



It will be tricky with the limited space to work with but if it would help, I like my chances to gitter done.

This post has been edited by Rommel: 26 May 2012 - 10:20 AM