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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:35 PM

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#2 User is offline   Evildave 

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

Do a little dance for Big Brother.

What kind of information shall they 'share'? WHATEVER KIND! The language is vague enough that the law makes ANYTHING the government chooses to do to your online data 'legal', at least until it gets overturned by the supreme court.

Anything that they can record, they can 'share'.

As I've mentioned many times, there's no need to get a 'search warrant'. If the government can get someone else to record information on EVERYONE, all they need to do is query what was recorded. You agreed to be recorded all the time when you clicked 'I Agree' to turn on that service. You're probably even paying to be spied on.

Your minute-by-minute GPS history for the last several years? SHARED!

Your email? SHARED!

Your browsing and forum account details? SHARED!

Your private facebook data? SHARED!

Your pictures and files? SHARED!

ZERO LIABILITY FOR COMPANIES THAT 'SHARE'!

Because everyone just loves government, law enforcement and private 'security' agencies having their fingers up your bottom all day, every day.

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  Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:09 PM

Somehow, I feel that corporations will try to exploit this as much as possible... (like a more hidden form of SOPA, in a way)
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#4 User is offline   Evildave 

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

That's among the things being discussed. Just doing SOPA again, but more sneaky.

So be sure to write your various representatives to tell them they aren't going to sneak it through without anyone noticing.
http://www.senate.go...enators_cfm.cfm
https://writerep.hou...p/welcome.shtml

Tip: Write the letter once, copy/paste to the forms when you get that far. Keep it short. These are mostly read by 'helpers' who scan the email for keywords and generate 'trends'. The likelihood your actual representatives will read your email is low.
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  Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:02 PM

I guess security or privacy is re.ally getting down to the wire
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostEvildave, on 13 April 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

Do a little dance for Big Brother.

What kind of information shall they 'share'? WHATEVER KIND! The language is vague enough that the law makes ANYTHING the government chooses to do to your online data 'legal', at least until it gets overturned by the supreme court.

Anything that they can record, they can 'share'.

As I've mentioned many times, there's no need to get a 'search warrant'. If the government can get someone else to record information on EVERYONE, all they need to do is query what was recorded. You agreed to be recorded all the time when you clicked 'I Agree' to turn on that service. You're probably even paying to be spied on.

Your minute-by-minute GPS history for the last several years? SHARED!

Your email? SHARED!

Your browsing and forum account details? SHARED!

Your private facebook data? SHARED!

Your pictures and files? SHARED!

ZERO LIABILITY FOR COMPANIES THAT 'SHARE'!

Because everyone just loves government, law enforcement and private 'security' agencies having their fingers up your bottom all day, every day.

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http://thedailywh.at...-it-of-the-day/

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  Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:03 AM

Take a step back and see the full picture. Who's terrorizing who??
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  Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

It smells dangerous to me. Americans should NEVER give up our privacy or rights because of fear...EVER!
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  Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:44 PM

http://www.disclose.tv/seized.html as if they need even more power!!
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  Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

Facebook Says It Has 'No Intention' To Abuse CISPA . this from a guy who stole facebook VOTE for Warren Buffett who are you going to vote for . It's hard to count how many times their privacy settings and policies have changed. without informing users.

Fenwick’s failure to disclose conflict of interest Leader’s patent will invalidate many of Facebook’s patents Yahoo . zuckerberg you stole from Leader Technologies for Ceglia street-mapping contract and Facebook contract. like to say some-thing Fenwick
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:52 AM

Yep. You know, the national 'income tax' was only supposed to be for 'the wealthiest', when it was enacted. In fact, one of the bill's biggest proponents at the time proclaimed may he burn in hell if these taxes ever touched the common man.

Well, you know, since that time, the value of the dollar has shrunk to less than 1% of what it was when you could buy acreage for a few hundred dollars, and coins were solid silver and gold, and they enacted that bill.

When you could do your grocery shopping with the amount of change you wonder why you have to carry around in your pocket, today. Little zinc tokens of virtually no value.

So, back in the day when you'd earn hundreds of dollars a year, and be pretty financially secure, only the 'rich' would be taxed. Now you need to earn tens of thousands a year not to live in a cardboard box.

Congratulations, everyone is 'rich', now!

And the people who pay the least taxes are the wealthiest.

And people are put into prison for 'evading' taxes, when the government can't prove any other kind of wrongdoing.

And the government wants a new power, again.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

New CISPA Draft Narrows Cybersecurity Language as Protests Loom
http://mashable.com/...ew-cispa-draft/
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:01 AM

View PostDanielGrondahl, on 14 April 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

It smells dangerous to me. Americans should NEVER give up our privacy or rights because of fear...EVER!


The Government or should i say some parts of it, is relying just on that fact alone FEAR to set up more in the way of controlling then anything else. 911 was a turning point in the way people see the world and also in the way Government can abuse privacy. Just try to fly anywhere in the US and see for yourself. We as a Nation use to stand up and say hey you can't do that and wouldn't stand for it either. Most of America is asleep to whats really going on and when they wake up it might be a bit different world. Privacy is one thing we are losing, Privacy is one very large piece of Freedom.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:53 AM

CISPA is on the fast track! You know how the house takes 'forever' to do anything? NOT THIS BILL. They're in a hurry to pass it before anyone mobilizes any protest about it. Why debate and review when the government can give its self (and its corporate keepers) vast new powers?

Facebook tells you why CISPA is a 'good thing'
http://mashable.com/...supports-cispa/

Related:
http://www.facebook....224562897555674
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  Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:12 AM

The comments are silly. Companies can share and block whatever they want. If the company doesn't want you to have Internet access that is their choice. The value of CISPA is that it gives the government the ability to share more directly. The vagueness is needed to support whatever sharing is needed from the government to companies.
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  Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:33 AM

The EFF is arguing that "companies could use the bill to filter content, monitor e-mails, and block access to websites". When companies can already filter content and block sites, my school is already doing it, they block hundreds of sites but that's only because they want to keep us productive and they also block sites to protect the network from security risks.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

If they can already do it all, why the bill?

Because it eliminates the liability for raping your privacy. Arbitrarily turning you INTO a criminal has no legal consequences, whatsoever. You can't sue anyone involved.

Corporations and government have zero liability for singling out and screwing individual Americans at all.

Example: Got a complaint about PCWorld and the dozens of spyware sites they ping whenever you do anything? PCWorld can send your name to Homeland Security as a 'suspected terrorist', and you can be SWATed (SWAT team breaks all your doors in at 4:00am with guns ready to kill), and you have no legal recourse against anyone involved.

What happens when there is no legal recourse?

Then it will only be illegal recourse.

In other words, the 'Foster American Terrorism Bill' of 2012.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:28 AM

View PostGamerSim, on 19 April 2012 - 06:33 AM, said:

The EFF is arguing that "companies could use the bill to filter content, monitor e-mails, and block access to websites". When companies can already filter content and block sites, my school is already doing it, they block hundreds of sites but that's only because they want to keep us productive and they also block sites to protect the network from security risks.


The best way for people to justify terrible actions is to do them as part of something good. Crooked police often do a respectable job on their beat. Would you want to eliminate all safeguards against police abuses, including the ability to seek redress in courts? I don't think so.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:52 PM

It is another example of corporations attaining super-rights, compared to citizens.

Corporations receive the INFINITE POWER to anonymously screw Americans, while Americans' rights to privacy are completely stripped.

Just as a Corporation is now a 'citizen', with rights to pump infinite money into political campaigns. Just the way the CEO/board decides, not the shareholders. Even strip mine a corporation, robbing the shareholders blind to support a political campaign. Anonymous people in a boardroom get a billion votes, if dollars are votes. Billions.

However well informed your vote, however carefully you weigh your choices, there are hundreds of people who will vote 'their gut', according to what they saw on TV. Advertising impressions. Who can get the most? Who can spread fear and terror of the unknown the best? The true terrorism is what our government has been practicing since late 2001. FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

http://topdocumentar...-of-nightmares/
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:09 PM

The house passed CISPA. Obama says he won't sign it.

Here's a list of the buttheads who hate liberty, who voted for it:
http://www.dailypaul...ign-for-liberty
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