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[nonseq]

NOTE to copy editor. Starting in the seventh graf, Paper for iPad becomes Pages for iPad- a completely different app.

[ChristinaDesMarais]

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

NOTE to copy editor. Starting in the seventh graf, Paper for iPad becomes Pages for iPad- a completely different app.

You're right. Thanks for the catch.

[HankRearden]

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

[nonseq]

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

[HankRearden]

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

[oral2012]

Thanks for the catch

[QUADICON]

Pretty cool app. I think Sketchbook still has some advantages when comparing what you can do for the cost.

But this is a pretty cool app.

I finally took the dive and got my wife (16GB-BLK) and myself (32GB-WHT) and the only app I been using is Sketchbook because it was pretty addictive to me.

Paper is a nice twist and a bit more fun for my wife.

Maybe we will have a little competition to see how creative we are.

:-)

[nonseq]

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I really don't know if there is a better one and am still collecting input from artist types who use their iPads with a stylus. I'll keep you informed.

[QUADICON]

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I suggest the more pointed the better.

This post has been edited by QUADICON: 16 April 2012 - 08:05 AM

[crosswordbob]

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I don't know if "better" is the right word, but I'm very fond of my oStylus. An innovative approach to solving the accuracy limitation of capacitive styli.

[QUADICON]

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I guess it depends on how you want to draw. If you want more detail, then you need a finer point. Some fancier costly Styli have found a way to deal with making capacitive styli work very welll without using a point.

I just got my iPad for me and the wife and I am looking for the best one. After using a resisitive device where they do use a pinpont stylus that is very accurate, I don't want to use a fat marshmellow that you typically see.

Bob is recommending checking out the O-Stylus. In the video, it does show the ring does block some of your view depending on angle. I want the whole area to be viewable. The way "I" draw, I typically view at a very slight angle facing me, so I am looking almost directly straight from the top to where the pen meets the paper.

The HTC Capacitive Stylus does work on other devices including the iPad. I suggest either it or the one from DAGi

Even tho the DAGi has a plastic round protector on the end, it is clear so u can still see the rest of the drawing in relation to where you are placing the point. For me that would be more accurate and I can use it just like a pen.

It also allows for you to pivot the pen 360 degrees at a single point. The O-Stylus can as well but require more effort. if you watch the guy write text with the O-Stylus, you can see that the rings blocks what you already wrote and would make writing in a straight line a bit harder vs having a invisible tip that doesn't block anything at all and give you 360 degrees of free movement as a REAL pen would do.

I talked about that before, but some don't get it. Fancier costly tools don't mean they will be better. It costs nearly $40.00 and it can't do what that DAGi can do and it cost less than 1/2 as much. I don't have money to waste. A drill that cost $200.00 can't drill a hole any better than a $50 one....its the same hole in the end.

Both links have videos to kinda show you their usage. I felt the DAGi one was better of the 2 because I can use it exactly like a pen which is what I want.


If you just want to doodle, then the Roocase you have is cool. I just dont like the fatness blocking my view.

This post has been edited by QUADICON: 16 April 2012 - 09:10 AM

[HankRearden]

QUADICON, on 16 April 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

I guess it depends on how you want to draw. If you want more detail, then you need a finer point. Some fancier costly Styli have found a way to deal with making capacitive styli work very welll without using a point.

I just got my iPad for me and the wife and I am looking for the best one. After using a resisitive device where they do use a pinpont stylus that is very accurate, I don't want to use a fat marshmellow that you typically see.

Bob is recommending checking out the O-Stylus. In the video, it does show the ring does block some of your view depending on angle. I want the whole area to be viewable. The way "I" draw, I typically view at a very slight angle facing me, so I am looking almost directly straight from the top to where the pen meets the paper.

The HTC Capacitive Stylus does work on other devices including the iPad. I suggest either it or the one from DAGi

Even tho the DAGi has a plastic round protector on the end, it is clear so u can still see the rest of the drawing in relation to where you are placing the point. For me that would be more accurate and I can use it just like a pen.

It also allows for you to pivot the pen 360 degrees at a single point. The O-Stylus can as well but require more effort. if you watch the guy write text with the O-Stylus, you can see that the rings blocks what you already wrote and would make writing in a straight line a bit harder vs having a invisible tip that doesn't block anything at all and give you 360 degrees of free movement as a REAL pen would do.

I talked about that before, but some don't get it. Fancier costly tools don't mean they will be better. It costs nearly $40.00 and it can't do what that DAGi can do and it cost less than 1/2 as much. I don't have money to waste. A drill that cost $200.00 can't drill a hole any better than a $50 one....its the same hole in the end.

Both links have videos to kinda show you their usage. I felt the DAGi one was better of the 2 because I can use it exactly like a pen which is what I want.


If you just want to doodle, then the Roocase you have is cool. I just dont like the fatness blocking my view.

Sorry for the incredible lag. Working between San Francisco and Hong Kong for a while, and am going a little crazy...

Quad, I went to Amazon to look at the stylus you mention. Sadly it has been getting horrible reviews. And people seem to feel it lags compared to my version. Mine is very responsive and even though it looks like I am drawing with an eraser, accuracy is not really a problem with it. Other than sitting down with you so you can see me draw with it you'll just have to take my word for it. When I first saw it, I had the exact same reaction I think everyone has. Which is how on earth am I supposed to draw with an eraser sized head. Well, it just works oddly enough. I might just order the one you mention anyway to see if it is more accurate. I tend to draw kind of quickly though, and from what I'm reading that sounds like a problem. Let me know what you think of yours after a couple weeks of drawing with it.

I don't draw every day, but the days I do I tend to draw for a good while. I just drew a dragon and getting the wings right and the head kept throwing me off. I spent much of my Saturday drawing the head over and over again in Paper by 53. I wish that app had zoom and layers. It would have been much easier. That being said the app is meant to have the look and feel of a rough sketch, which is what I was happy with anyway. I'm not such a great artist that I was looking for perfection any way. I have Illustrator and Photoshop for when I wish to have photographic quality output. With Paper I was just having a good time drawing a dragon.

So why a dragon?

Well, all weekend I was playing Draw Something and one of the things I accepted to draw was a dragon. Draw Something, which is a social game doesn't give you a lot of resolution to play with, or even a lot of pen types, so drawing the dragon was near impossible. And since I couldn't draw it in the game, I decided to try my hand with the dragon in Paper just to see if it could be done well. And in the end I absolutely love my dragon.

[HankRearden]

crosswordbob, on 16 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I don't know if "better" is the right word, but I'm very fond of my oStylus. An innovative approach to solving the accuracy limitation of capacitive styli.

I watched the video of this and it looks too weird for me. I'm actually pretty happy with my Roocase. I take it everywhere, it was about $7 and it just works and works without fail. Seriously, the thing is maybe a year old and it just gets tossed in my back with other junk. No lid to protect it at all. Seems to work well enough. I like the concept of Quad's device but the poor reviews ruined it for me.

[HankRearden]

nonseq, on 16 April 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I really don't know if there is a better one and am still collecting input from artist types who use their iPads with a stylus. I'll keep you informed.

Well, count me in for the Roocase. I have no complaints and I use it with a lot of apps. iDraw, Sketchbook Pro, Draw Something, Paper and I'm not yet actually using PS Touch. Adobe just doesn't seem to grasp that iPad feel to me at all. In fact, I might just delete Adobe's PSTouch all together. So far, iDraw and Paper are the stand outs for me. Both of those apps are truly simple and excellent. SketchBook Pro I might just buy on a Windows 7 tablet to get the full benefit. I like the full version a lot, but I'm not crazy about the iPad version. Getting to the menus and what not is too weird for me. I know, I can keep some of the tools up all the time, but it lacks the feel of Paper. Paper really got me. I expected to hate it, and ended up loving it. Perhaps even my favorite app so far bar none.

[QUADICON]

HankRearden, on 16 April 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

crosswordbob, on 16 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I don't know if "better" is the right word, but I'm very fond of my oStylus. An innovative approach to solving the accuracy limitation of capacitive styli.

I watched the video of this and it looks too weird for me. I'm actually pretty happy with my Roocase. I take it everywhere, it was about $7 and it just works and works without fail. Seriously, the thing is maybe a year old and it just gets tossed in my back with other junk. No lid to protect it at all. Seems to work well enough. I like the concept of Quad's device but the poor reviews ruined it for me.

What reviews did you read?
http://www.amazon.co...howViewpoints=1

The ones here seem to show people are happy. Almost all the starts are full. Maybe it depends on which version.
I am going to try the 602. The women in the video seemed to be drawing effortlessly.

But I will bookmark this article. The shipper didn't have a rush shipping I could pay for. So I hope to have it in 5 days. Looking at the video I didn't see any more lag then most touchscreens normally have.

I also wonder if the people who gave other models bad reviews were using older iPads, or some other device. What I noticed in Sketchbook is, when using multiple layers, the original iPad is really really slow when drawing, but the lasted model is a bit faster tho it slows too.

1GB still isn't enough RAM for such apps.

[QUADICON]

Has anyone found a better way to close a book you opened in Paper?
After turn pages, and trying to close the book so I can pick another, the only thing that has worked was closing the app, double-clicking the home button, holding the apps until I can remove it from the taskbar and then launching the app again.

Not very intuitive. Other than that me and the wife like it.
But I still prefer sketchbook.

[HankRearden]

QUADICON, on 16 April 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

Has anyone found a better way to close a book you opened in Paper?
After turn pages, and trying to close the book so I can pick another, the only thing that has worked was closing the app, double-clicking the home button, holding the apps until I can remove it from the taskbar and then launching the app again.

Not very intuitive. Other than that me and the wife like it.
But I still prefer sketchbook.

You pinch the page and it collapses into itself.

[QUADICON]

HankRearden, on 16 April 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

QUADICON, on 16 April 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

Has anyone found a better way to close a book you opened in Paper?
After turn pages, and trying to close the book so I can pick another, the only thing that has worked was closing the app, double-clicking the home button, holding the apps until I can remove it from the taskbar and then launching the app again.

Not very intuitive. Other than that me and the wife like it.
But I still prefer sketchbook.

You pinch the page and it collapses into itself.

Thanks. they should have made some indicatation in the UI for that. I noticed in the video, he used 2 fingers to make the pages appear again, and I guessed at doing it a second time would close the book and it worked. Thanks!

Amazon just sent an email today that my 602's have now shipped. Hoepfully they arrive soon and I will come back and comment on my perception of performance.

[nonseq]

HankRearden, on 16 April 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

nonseq, on 16 April 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

nonseq, on 15 April 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

HankRearden, on 15 April 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Been drawing with the app most of yesterday evening. Got stuck trying to draw a dragon and couldn't put it down until I had it. Love this app.

Hank what stylus are you using? It's a very cool, fun, and useful tool in my experience.

I'm using a Roocase. Unless there is a better one out there??

I really don't know if there is a better one and am still collecting input from artist types who use their iPads with a stylus. I'll keep you informed.

Well, count me in for the Roocase. I have no complaints and I use it with a lot of apps. iDraw, Sketchbook Pro, Draw Something, Paper and I'm not yet actually using PS Touch. Adobe just doesn't seem to grasp that iPad feel to me at all. In fact, I might just delete Adobe's PSTouch all together. So far, iDraw and Paper are the stand outs for me. Both of those apps are truly simple and excellent. SketchBook Pro I might just buy on a Windows 7 tablet to get the full benefit. I like the full version a lot, but I'm not crazy about the iPad version. Getting to the menus and what not is too weird for me. I know, I can keep some of the tools up all the time, but it lacks the feel of Paper. Paper really got me. I expected to hate it, and ended up loving it. Perhaps even my favorite app so far bar none.

Thanks for the insights. I really appreciate it