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[hellopoco]

Down with Apple!

[kjohn034]

How about a sanctioned app developing app right on the device?
If Apple can figure out how to make you pay them for writing your own app then i can see this happening.
Windows...Life Without Walls...until Win8 and their app store arrives...oh boy.
Linux is SO close to being a good OS...start phasing out the hacknoids and get some real designers to work on it.
I hate to say it but it does seem like Microsoft and Apple are rolling out the red carpet for a Linux infiltration, but command line hackers will NEVER get it done.

[rodinka47]

hellopoco, on 16 April 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Down with Apple!

Oh tut, tut! that's like saying down with Microsoft! sheesh! Get over yourself!

[Mattvm8v]

Google destroys the internet more than any other company.

No other company collects as much data or has as many questions about user privacy than Google.

No other mobile operating system gets more malware than Google Android.

Google is just attacking Apple because Google has been caught stealing technology from other companies to create Android, lying about the privacy matters and cheating users out of data. Last I checked Apple was bad but not that bad.

[FF22]

The only thing Apple and Facebook are destroying is Google's ability to take a free ride on the back of the internet, and sell advertisement actually using and building on content created by others.

[KevinLeong]

I have to point out an error here: the line from the Guardian source article is, "Brin said he and co-founder Larry Page would not have been able to create Google *if the internet was dominated by Facebook.*" (my emphasis) This does not equate to "Brin said that he would not have been able to create Google if Facebook had already existed," as written in this article.

[Kahuna]

Brin concerns ought not be be over Apple's "walled garden," but the prison sentence he and his partner should face for the criminal theft of intellectual property from both Apple and Oracle, just to name two.

[nonseq]

Brin is just whining because walled gardens interfere with Google's rapacious desire to mine every nook and cranny of the internet for personal data to be resold to advertisers. Google offers a much greater threat to internet users than any walled garden.

And yet, under the false banner of freedom, millions flock to Android and Google products willing to yield their innermost secrets and their bank balances. I doesn't make sense to me.

[linuxrants7xpg]

Kahuna, on 17 April 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Brin concerns ought not be be over Apple's "walled garden," but the prison sentence he and his partner should face for the criminal theft of intellectual property from both Apple and Oracle, just to name two.

I seriously doubt either loses sleep over any such thing, but I do agree that Brin's concerns over any Apple or Facebook "walled garden" are probably overblown. After all, the Internet had "walled gardens" before Apple and Facebook. AOL was one such environment. The fact that AOL had a "walled garden" didn't hurt Google or the Internet in general. I like Google, but this just smacks of theater.

[kennyrosenyc]

Apple is definitely doing something to the internet. They're paying big corporations for content while charging the little guy AND taking a cut of his earnings. They're forcing you to use their webspace to sell apps so that they can monitor your/their earnings. They're dragging a lot of technological advancement backwards (they were instrumental in killing Flash just as Epic realized a Flash friendly version of UDK which could have pushed the internet into an actual 3 dimensional virtual space, they are still using Direct X 9 -though that's on Microsoft for not giving them updates). They charge way too much for too little (a $600 PC is waaaaay faster and does waaaaay more than an iPad - period). They've forced cell phone carriers to swallow gigantic subsidies which will ultimately drive plan costs higher. But are they evil? YES!!!! Microsoft is too! Microsoft is, however, the lesser of two evils by virtue of being second to do everything which means they can learn from Apple's mistakes (when they want to). My mantra - Never buy the 'first' version of anything as it will always get better!!!

[JoeyButafuocco]

kennyrosenyc, on 18 April 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

Apple is definitely doing something to the internet. They're paying big corporations for content while charging the little guy AND taking a cut of his earnings. They're forcing you to use their webspace to sell apps so that they can monitor your/their earnings. They're dragging a lot of technological advancement backwards (they were instrumental in killing Flash just as Epic realized a Flash friendly version of UDK which could have pushed the internet into an actual 3 dimensional virtual space, they are still using Direct X 9 -though that's on Microsoft for not giving them updates). They charge way too much for too little (a $600 PC is waaaaay faster and does waaaaay more than an iPad - period). They've forced cell phone carriers to swallow gigantic subsidies which will ultimately drive plan costs higher. But are they evil? YES!!!! Microsoft is too! Microsoft is, however, the lesser of two evils by virtue of being second to do everything which means they can learn from Apple's mistakes (when they want to). My mantra - Never buy the 'first' version of anything as it will always get better!!!

I disagree with several of your points but one in particular...

I don't ever recall Apple in it's entire history as being highly affordable. I do recall however, it being well beyond the curve from the standpoint of technological advancement.
With the exception of commodore (may they rest in serene peace) who was always YEARS ahead of EVERYONE but had HORRENDOUS MARKETING, Apple was 2nd in line... now they are 1st since Commodore is extinct.
Punch up Amiga 1200 on ebay and see the dollars those units STILL command.
Apple has an amazing marketing strategy. They sell to human citizens, not geeks, not CEOs.
Everyone else sells the whistles and bells...

Microsoft: More machines are running microsoft OS than any other today
With MS Office you can write documents, compile spreadsheets, give presentations and even keep a database of all your records with one software package at a low price.

Apple: [shows mom shopping] "Siri, which Isle are the cheapest diapers in?" [SIRI VOICE] "Mary, please go to isle 12 and get the huggies at the end. They are on sale for $4.99"

They're advertising is much more personal and that's why they are killing it in today's market.

They are expensive but hardly a ripoff... It's like about a 15% to 20% premium. You still get a quad core, 16gb of ram and have an insane display (retina macbook) and SSD out of the box (768gb)
and you can even put Windows Server 2008 on it if you want or ESXi... so you pay $500 more than everyone else but the construct is that much better. Smallest form factor. Anodized aircraft aluminum unibody chassis...
Dunno... sounds to me like they are doing things pretty well...
I admit their pandering to copyrights is a bit much but hey, JAILBREAK if you want to steal...

This post has been edited by JoeyButafuocco: 06 August 2012 - 06:47 PM

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