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This is ridiculous doesn't anybody look this stuff up. How about an article on November 13, 2006 that contained the following saying that Java was opensource for smartphones:

Rich Green, Sun's executive vice president of software, said the company hopes to turn more developers into Java programmers, who may then create additional software to support Sun products.

"The open-sourcing of this really means more — more richness of offerings, more capability, more applications that consumers will get to use," Green said. "The platform itself will become a place for innovation."

All the Java source code is expected to be released by March 2007, Green said. The move covers all Java technology, which includes software that runs on handheld devices, personal computers and servers.

TomMariner, on 17 April 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

An article that says Java is opensource doesn't make it opensource.

Your second statement doesn't preclude profit. You could change that statement to read iOS and Apple and it would be just as applicable.

Even the Google attorney admitted (by exclusion) in his opening statement that some of Java is not opensource. Thus the trial to determine who is right. So far there seem to be more "experts" that believe Oracle will win to some degree. Whether it will have been worth their trouble will be determined. If they actually gain licensing fees then its a big win.

I have to agree with Google here. Wikipedia site states the following about APIs.

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The API is the hook. Trying to separate it for the line, which is the programing language (C, C++, JAVA, PASCAL, BASIC), is not practical. It would be like trying to sell a compiler without any libraries to allow for print or display functions.

michael1213, on 17 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

True, but a page on Sun's old site(http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/) that says "Always Open. Now Free" pretty much says that it is. All the way down to the mascot.

michael1213, on 17 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

It's not all Open Source. Some of it is covered under the JCP, which doesn't mean that Oracle can charge for it. It just means that the code is still regulated to maintain compatibility.

michael1213, on 17 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

I'm curious which "experts" you're referring to. Can you provide some links? That is, unless it's Florian Mueller. That guy claims to provide independent commentary, but actually works for Oracle. If it's him, don't even bother.