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[KaschaK]

The only thing of consequence here that appeared in the article is that phone retailers are stuffing the Windows phones way in the back and pushing other phones. I wouldn't be surprised to find out they are doing this because Microsoft won't allow them to preload their crap on Phone 7 and so are instructing their employees not to push it.

Same would have happened to the iPhone if it had come third instead of first. First to market sets the tone and when the iPhone was so far ahead of other phones there was no way these cellular companies were going to turn it down over inability to load up their bloatware. Now that iPhone is embedded, other companies taking the same attitude are getting noses thumbed at them.

Let's not pretend though that is has anything to do with Phone 7's quality. It is a far better functioning and far more liquid OS than either iOS or Andreck.

[LeeSochia]

Irony... this article epitomizes irony.

The article states that the reason the windows phone is a bust is because people want to use what their familiar with. Let's remember that windows still own's 90% of the desktop experience. When that becomes the mobile experience, as in what the windows 8 is aimed for... tell me what are people going to purchase?

[Nuke61]

LeeSochia, on 17 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

The article states that the reason the windows phone is a bust is because people want to use what their familiar with. Let's remember that windows still own's 90% of the desktop experience. When that becomes the mobile experience, as in what the windows 8 is aimed for... tell me what are people going to purchase?

Windows 8 desktop and mobile have different user interfaces. Windows Mobile was a far closer mobile version of the Windows desktop, and how well did that work out for them?

[GraysonPeddie]

If iPhone and Android did not exist, I'd be happy to choose Windows Mobile due to the looks and being able to sideload applications, thank you very much.

Sadly, I don't like Metro, because it's just too plain. Sure, tiles provide information just like Windows Mobile does, so that does not change my opinion about the Metro interface. If I want to see a list of programs, I can just launch a start menu compared to Metro.

Because of that, I'm an old-fashioned type and that's what suits me. As for choosing between iPhone, Android, and Windows Phone 7, Android suits me well since it can allow me to sideload applications into my phone, even the ones I've purchased and can download applications via e-mail. Plus, Android allows me to customize the way I want it to be. And with that, it's who I am. Having thousands of applications does not make a smartphone operating system more superior compared to others.

But since the world does not evolve around me, I don't know how many of the smartphone owners care about sideloading applications or customizing their operating system the way they want it, like having widgets, icons, live wallpaper, or a wallpaper that functions as a slideshow. Thus, I'm not sure if the majority of smartphone owners prefer the mini-desktop experience of Windows Mobile, so I don't have the stats to prove it. I say this because I came from Windows Mobile/Pocket PC, which is pretty much the days before iPhone arrives in 2007.

Pardon me for bringing in such a debate when it comes to Lumia phones and the familiarity of iPhone or Android.

[ashrafpashagz2d]

Give it a chance, don't complain what you haven't tried.. Let the competition help all of us..

[GraysonPeddie]

ashrafpashagz2d, on 18 April 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Give it a chance, don't complain what you haven't tried.. Let the competition help all of us..

Everyone is different. If Metro does not meet their needs due to the looks and limitations, they'd be better off not getting Windows Phone 7. Same for Android and iPhone.

How can I publish my own Windows Phone 7 application with a GPL and give it away to the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) community if I can't afford $99 to sign up for a merchant account? Hmm... Methinks I can sell a $20 software and after 5 of the buyers purchased my program, I can make it open source, thereby covering the cost of $99 membership, can I? Oh, let me answer that. I will only rip off my customers by making it open source and give away software for free...

[AdasWeber0zg6]

GraysonPeddie, on 18 April 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

ashrafpashagz2d, on 18 April 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Give it a chance, don't complain what you haven't tried.. Let the competition help all of us..

Everyone is different. If Metro does not meet their needs due to the looks and limitations, they'd be better off not getting Windows Phone 7. Same for Android and iPhone.

How can I publish my own Windows Phone 7 application with a GPL and give it away to the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) community if I can't afford $99 to sign up for a merchant account? Hmm... Methinks I can sell a $20 software and after 5 of the buyers purchased my program, I can make it open source, thereby covering the cost of $99 membership, can I? Oh, let me answer that. I will only rip off my customers by making it open source and give away software for free...

Why not use in-app advertising to provide your app revenue. It's working for quite a few developers. One has published that their Windows Phone 7 app is netting them $1400 per day, purely from advertising revenue. That's not bad considering the relatively small userbase. That developer also said that it's revenue from in-app advertising is climbing exponentially, which they attribute to increasing Nokia sales.

So on the one hand you have some (I stress SOME) Euro carriers claiming that Nokia Lumia is a bust, but on the other hand we have evidence to the contrary like the data above.

[Mattvm8v]

Of course in it's current state Windows Mobile is a bust.

Android caters to the consumers willing to pay up to $100 for a phone and up to $200 for a tablet.

iOS caters to consumers willing to pay more than $100 for a phone and more than $200 for a tablet.

So in it's current state Windows Mobile doesn't have it's own niche. Instead it's pretty much fighting Android for the same users.

This will chance however if Windows mobile devices drop the mobile operating system for a full operating system. Then Windows mobile devices would end the top mobile devices followed by Apple mobile devices running OS X. And Google mobile devices would fade away because no one is gonna choose Android over a full operating system nor would they choose Chrome OS over Windows or OSX.

So the future of mobile devices might be determined by if mobile devices go with full operating systems one day or not.

[kennyrosenyc]

This is silly. I doubt seriously that either Nokia or Microsoft were expecting a huge rush from this phone given that the allure is an OS that's not even complete. I think the plan is more complex than that. By the time Windows 8 lands there will be a bunch of phones and tablets landing with it.

[GraysonPeddie]

Mattvm8v, on 18 April 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

Of course in it's current state Windows Mobile is a bust.

Android caters to the consumers willing to pay up to $100 for a phone and up to $200 for a tablet.

iOS caters to consumers willing to pay more than $100 for a phone and more than $200 for a tablet.

So in it's current state Windows Mobile doesn't have it's own niche. Instead it's pretty much fighting Android for the same users.

This will chance however if Windows mobile devices drop the mobile operating system for a full operating system. Then Windows mobile devices would end the top mobile devices followed by Apple mobile devices running OS X. And Google mobile devices would fade away because no one is gonna choose Android over a full operating system nor would they choose Chrome OS over Windows or OSX.

So the future of mobile devices might be determined by if mobile devices go with full operating systems one day or not.

You are confusing Windows Mobile 6.5 and earlier with Windows Phone 7.

[RickDobbelmannqbtt]

Its Microsoft of course it is a bust. Most if it closed source suckiness.

I am so glad the world has not fallen for Microsofts advertising gimmick in the mobile/tablet market.

Although both iOS and Andoid are partally open source, they are both partially closed source, which raises MAJOR security issues.

This post has been edited by RickDobbelmannqbtt: 18 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

[Evildave]

Part of the problem: Confusion.

People have experience with Windows CE PDAs and phones. They were HORRIBLE. They booted just as slowly as windoze machines of the time. You'd turn on your phone and... well, it would take quite a while to be able to place a call. And you'd WANT TO turn off the phone, or the battery would be dead walking from your front door to the car, or it would burn you through your pocket. Microsoft has turned out a lot of crap with the 'Windows' logo on it.

Fast-forward to today, and even if this new, completely different 'Windows' is 'improved', people still remember 'Windows', the terrible brand for portable devices.

It's like selling red candy that all looks the same. Some are cherry. Some are strawberry. Some are cinnamon. Some are grape. Some are feces flavored. But we call them all 'Windows', and wonder why people (especially the ones who ended up with the feces flavored candy) don't want to even consider the brand new flavor that Microsoft is offering. It's all the same red candy.

[RickDobbelmannqbtt]

Evildave, on 18 April 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Part of the problem: Confusion.

People have experience with Windows CE PDAs and phones. They were HORRIBLE.

It's like selling red candy that all looks the same. Some are cherry. Some are strawberry. Some are cinnamon. Some are grape. Some are feces flavored. But we call them all 'Windows', and wonder why people (especially the ones who ended up with the feces flavored candy) don't want to even consider the brand new flavor that Microsoft is offering. It's all the same red candy.

I love this +1 howver I dont think I could ever call a windows product as sweet as strawberry, cherry, grape or even cinnamon. Probably all different flavors of excrement.

This post has been edited by RickDobbelmannqbtt: 18 April 2012 - 12:35 PM