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Looks like a great phone, and I could live with the non-removable battery, but the storage is a real issue. That 16 gigs is *total* memory in the phone, which gets shared between the kernel, system, cache and, finally, user storage. That leaves only about 10 gigs for actual user storage - a fairly big step down from current/previous phones, and a really hard decision to understand for what is a very high-end phone.

No mention of 4G? Don't find network speed to be an issue worth stating, even in a muted list of specs? Poor attention to detail, Ian.

npco543, on 19 April 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

I currently have the Nexus S from T-Mobile which also comes with 16GB and no micro sd card space. i thought it was going to be bad but i quickly realize its not so bad since 16gb is not bad at all, i currently have couple videos on my phone as a lot of music and pictures and apps and that leaves me with almost 13GB available. ill say thats more than plenty of space for most people and if its not there's DropBox, Google + which instantly saves your images, google also saves your music on their servers. 16GB its a lot of space

npco543, on 19 April 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

I have an 8gb sd card with less than 1gb on the phone... and have yet to exceeded the memory. Granted this is on a Motorola Defy, with no HD recording to speak of, but none the less, it is not hard to plug in your usb cable to unload your HD video from this HTC One S phone onto your computer, or, preferably via wifi, upload your HD videos/pictures to dropbox. I can not see anyone with a brain, exceeding the 16 or in the example you gave, 10gb space cap. Non issue.

The real issue, I believe, is the no access to the battery. I have had phones in the past where the phone froze up on me. THE ONLY WAY TO UNFREEZE THE PHONE was to remove the battery. This was on a Motorola phone... does HTC phones not have that problem? If so, is there a way to hard reboot the phone? THAT is the concern everyone should have.

btw I highly doubt a phone like this will ever freeze up, but you never know with open source and how some people build their apps poorly.

MichaelMessmann, on 19 April 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

That's because Tmobile does NOT have true 4g... never had. Thus the reason why they are dipping into LTE. You can think of HSPA+ as 3.5G.

ingram1225, on 20 April 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

I believe T-Mobile's 4G network on this phone, and it is 4g just not 4g lte (which is not necessarily faster/better), is capable of something like 42Mbps (depending on signal quality, etc). Compare that to my home cable modem network speed of 15-20Mbps, and you start to realize that t-mobile's 4g is way more than fast enough.

I'm quite happy with the one s, though it's a little upsetting that some android 2.x apps which worked on my htc tmobile mytouch 4g aren't yet supported on the one s -- namely: hbo go, and hulu plus. I am counting on hbo and hulu to eventually upgrade those apps to be compatible. Also scrabble doesn't seem to work on this phone.

Also, T-mobile seems to have the best 4g network coverage for it's price range. I get 5gb high speed a month, where a similar plan with, say sprint with 'unlimitted data' (which sounds tempting) has no 4g and possibly no 3g coverage in my area, making sprint a complete waste. T-mobile probably has the best 4g coverage around, "real" 4g or not.

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Part 2 of reply: Keep in mind that the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is the same difference between EV-DO (Evolution Data Object) and LTE (Long Term Evolution - or marketing speak for EV-DO+). They're different standards, but both the next generation of those standards.

For some carriers, like verizon, EV-DO was 3g, and LTE is 4g -- and for other carriers HSPA was 3g and HSPA+ is 4g. It's just a different standard. It says nothing as to one standard is better than the other. Verizon was required to clarify that they're LTE because they didn't want to confuse their devices as being compatible with the first 4g named network.