[lkacy]

My CRT monitor is big and it takes up all the space I have. Not to mention that it uses more electrical power than LCDs and if there is something wrong with it, repairing it would cost me a lot of money due to the complexity of the equipment. I am confused and don’t know what to do. Your ideas…

[ReviverSoft]

^ Get a LCD monitor to replace it? They're pretty cheap these days, and you can get a nice, big LCD screen for a good price.

ASUS, Dell, HP and Samsung make some good monitors.

[coastie65]

Hi. I have split this into it's own topic. It is not a good idea to piggyback it on another topic and you will have a better chance of getting more responses to your issue.

[LiveBrianD]

Uhh, why are we responding to a 2 month old thread?

[brainout]

If I could, I'd have kept my CrTs, but lost them when moving to the south. The CrTs last longer. Always good to have one handy, in case the flat panel gives out. For here's a weird thing: I've had two flat panel Dell, go wonky. If I let them incubate with no power for a week or more, suddenly they work again. So an old CrT is handy for that interim. Obviously the flat panel style is better, and no CrT sports a separately-powered, USB hub. But any old VGA CrT in a pinch, is desirable.

At a thrift shop near here, hundreds of old computers and CrT's were received as donations: the thrift shop owners just stored them outside, no roof even. I could kick myself for not going there to sort through their pile, before the rain hit. Whole thing was gone in maybe two-three months.

Some teenagers I know tell me that their games play better on the CrT's, than on flat panel. Something about speed and crispness of the graphics.

[LiveBrianD]

Maybe CRTs last longer (I really don't know), but they tend to get blurry after a while. There are some old ones at my school that have my issue, and it's seriously irritating - for instance, I can't run those (all 17") above 1024*768 because the monitor gets too blurry to use. The curved glass doesn't help either. (that's not as big of an issue though)

[brainout]

LiveBrianD, on 19 August 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Maybe CRTs last longer (I really don't know), but they tend to get blurry after a while. There are some old ones at my school that have my issue, and it's seriously irritating - for instance, I can't run those (all 17") above 1024*768 because the monitor gets too blurry to use. The curved glass doesn't help either. (that's not as big of an issue though)

Maybe, I don't know either. The ones I had were still working just fine after over 15 years, but I lost them in moving. The only one surviving is an old monochrome from 1985, needed for my 286 computer which can't support color. Again, I'm not trying to advocate them, but teenagers I know from Youtube drool over the old stuff, tell me CRTs are crisper, more fun for DOS games. I don't play computer games, so can't opine.

[LiveBrianD]

Teens wanting the old stuff? lol... I guess a CRT might be better for DOS games though, since they don't have a native resolution.

[Stevey]

I hardly see anyone using a CRT these days unless their pc is years old and they got used to it,
Actually people take it as a symbol of being technically challenged and even make fun of the ones who use them...
Few years ago someone called my old CRT a jurrasic creature...and laughed at it...obviously even complete technotards have a radiant flat panel TFT these days...

This post has been edited by Stevey: 21 August 2012 - 04:50 AM

[brainout]

Well, I actually prefer the graphics on a CRT, but the flat panel gives me wider size. The total space taken up by either CRT or FP is about the same. The latter is easier to use and move around.

[waldojim]

I have to agree, CRTs have color quality that LCD's have yet to be able to reproduce.

[LiveBrianD]

It depends - for instance, in one computer lab I saw, they had a lot of old CRTs and some new, cheapo TN LCDs. The CRTs, by far, had better color and contrast. That said, if you compare it to an IPS display, it gets a lot harder to say.

[waldojim]

LiveBrianD, on 22 August 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

It depends - for instance, in one computer lab I saw, they had a lot of old CRTs and some new, cheapo TN LCDs. The CRTs, by far, had better color and contrast. That said, if you compare it to an IPS display, it gets a lot harder to say.

No, actually it doesn't. CRT's support a nearly infinite color range, even ips have limitations. You find them much quicker with the right sources. Add to it, CRT's have NATIVE contrast ratios of nearly 1,000,000:1. They can also produce a TRUE black. There are ZERO LCD panels of any type that can make either claim.

[Stevey]

Why do they hype for LCD/LED tv sets so much these days?
They Keep on claiming LCD and other flat panels show live and natural colors unlike old tv sets, if CRT was so good the manufacturers should be aiming to deprive us of something so worthy?

This post has been edited by Stevey: 22 August 2012 - 08:36 PM

[waldojim]

Stevey, on 22 August 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Why do they hype for LCD/LED tv sets so much these days?
They Keep on claiming LCD and other flat panels show live and natural colors unlike old tv sets, if CRT was so good the manufacturers should be aiming to deprive us of something so worthy?

Manufaturers usually shy away from color comparisons to CRT. They will try to go with other things that will make you forget about those arguments. Energy efficiency, size, weight, 3d, frequency, and so on. Everything that has little to do with actual image properties. Then, when forced to reveal the displays image quality, they modify the crap out of the testing to boost the numbers. ANY LED/LCD TV you see claiming more than 3,000:1 contrast ratio is flat out lying to you. I will give you a perfect example.

Here is the website for an LG IPS236V computer monitor. I am using a computer monitor because they are the only ones actually TESTED for contrast ratios in a calibrated, controlled environment.

Here are the calibrated results.

The difference?
LG claims that display has a 5,000,000:1 ratio. Toms Hardware proves it is actually closer to 202:1. That is quite a difference, no?

There are very, very few displays that can achieve more than 1,000:1. Even fewer than can display more than 16 million accurate colors or so. Most of those are attached to PC's. They are also very expensive. A 27" Dell monitor that can get you CLOSE, will run you $850. Understanding that CRT's have their own limitations, only that color range/quality isn't it on a tube of any decent quality.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 23 August 2012 - 12:02 AM

[Stevey]

@waldojim
That was a very nice info..thanks..
the sad thing is that they don't even sell unused crts these days..buy online or offline they always get us to dig into scraps and also they turned down the image of crts so much that they seem like dealing with something obsolete...yeah space and width are the problems but I remember getting such smooth FPS while gaming of them and also their capability to manipulate colors. I guess they can't use the FullHD(1080p) feature? ...they can't make a comeback anyways...!

This post has been edited by Stevey: 23 August 2012 - 05:50 AM

[smax013]

Stevey, on 22 August 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Why do they hype for LCD/LED tv sets so much these days?
They Keep on claiming LCD and other flat panels show live and natural colors unlike old tv sets, if CRT was so good the manufacturers should be aiming to deprive us of something so worthy?

Likely because most people care more about the things that LCD (and plasma) TVs do better, such as size and weight. A CRT larger than about 30" starts to run into practical problems with size and weight in particular. I had a 720p 30" CRT HDTV as my first HDTV. It was WAY heavier than my dad's new 46" LED HDTV. There is no way that I could carry my old 30" CRT HDTV, but I can carry my dad's 46" LED (its awkward due to the size).

Obviously, this becomes less of an issue when you talk about computer monitors as they are typically in the 20" range. But, still a my (last remaining) 19" CRT monitor (not in use) is WAY heavier than either of my 19" LCD monitors.