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Ubuntu Linux 12.04 'precise Pangolin' Is Here At Last

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 07:54 AM

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  Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:19 AM

I'm downloading it right now, via remote connections to 3 separate systems that I've got jobs farmed out to... gotta love mirror-sites and RDP gateways (xrdp)! ;)

I've been playing with the Beta 2 release for the past week and have been totally impressed by the speed and finesse of this version. I can't wait to upgrade my systems at home to the final release.
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  Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?
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  Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:22 AM

I'd love to switch from Windows to Linux, in fact I've all ready tried it. Unfortunately I couldn't then (and still can't) use all of my window's based programs on Linux without knowing how to code & program the emulator. Until I hear someone say "Linux now fully supports windows based programs without needing to know coding, tricks, or workarounds" then I will never be able to make the switch.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

View PostChrisJenks, on 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?


It's available. In some of the older versions of Ubuntu the Update Manager had to be run with a -d at the command line to allow for an upgrade of your complete distribution. If you're going to do that though, you might as well just do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" at the command line. That will update you to the newest version.

Incidentally, this isn't an issue with newer version of the Update Manager. Now the Distribution upgrade is automatic in the update manager.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:31 AM

View PostSlomo76, on 26 April 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

I'd love to switch from Windows to Linux, in fact I've all ready tried it. Unfortunately I couldn't then (and still can't) use all of my window's based programs on Linux without knowing how to code & program the emulator. Until I hear someone say "Linux now fully supports windows based programs without needing to know coding, tricks, or workarounds" then I will never be able to make the switch.

I know what you mean - I haven't used WINE myself, and keep an old machine running Windows 2000 for the rare times I need to use a Windows program. I also keep a more recent Windows version installed as another boot option in case I have to install something more current. I'm glad I haven't had the hassle of resorting to Windows very often because of my luck in having most of my needs satisfied by Linux.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:35 AM

View PostChrisJenks, on 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?


It is there on my system now... I have to wait until getting home to start the upgrade...

Greetings
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:38 AM

View Postlinuxrants7xpg, on 26 April 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

View PostChrisJenks, on 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?


It's available. In some of the older versions of Ubuntu the Update Manager had to be run with a -d at the command line to allow for an upgrade of your complete distribution. If you're going to do that though, you might as well just do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" at the command line. That will update you to the newest version.

Incidentally, this isn't an issue with newer version of the Update Manager. Now the Distribution upgrade is automatic in the update manager.

I'm installing now, after running update-manager -d. It tells me it is installing the beta release. Hopefully it is just kidding.

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reddish: are you using v10.04 or v11.10? I was just told that the upgrade button in UM for 10.04 will not appear until the first point release, v12.04.1.

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  Posted 26 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

been using the final beta for a week. It's the most polished and beautiful I've ever seen.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:38 PM

View PostSlomo76, on 26 April 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

(and still can't) use all of my window's based programs on Linux without knowing how to code & program the emulator.



Until Windows cannot meet your needs, or gets so infected with malware and viruses just keep on using it.

If you really do want to switch... Which windows-only programs do you rely on?

I've been Windows free for a long time, I survive just fine... but if you have a specific need like Photoshop, 3d studiomax, latest games,etc then youre sticking with Windows for a long long time!
People wanting to leave Windows behind for Mac too have faced this challenge for many years. I think once you find an alternative to whichever program you need, or realize you just don't want to use Windows, only then you can abandon your OS.

I am not going to say that the alternatives are equivalent or better to stuff you may be using, but here is an idea of alternative programs on Linux:
www.linuxalt.com

Mileage varies greatly with any alternative program, so be prepared.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:43 PM

View PostMICHAEL6gvz, on 26 April 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

View PostSlomo76, on 26 April 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

(and still can't) use all of my window's based programs on Linux without knowing how to code & program the emulator.



Until Windows cannot meet your needs, or gets so infected with malware and viruses just keep on using it.
...
Mileage varies greatly with any alternative program, so be prepared.


I'm mostly an amateur bedroom musician, but I was used to pro Windows/Mac software (Pro tools, Guitar Rig, Cubase, all the goodies). I found, after quite a lot of searching, the Open-Source community provided alternatives - And while I had to filter through the rubbish, I eventually found gold. As you use Linux more and more, you start experimenting with totally new software, and end up wondering why you put up with the junk you have to pay anywhere from £50 to £1000 for.

However, WINE generally doesn't take too much fiddling to use (Things like PlayOnLinux that run scripts to do all the fiddling for you help!) And is a good piece of kit if you REALLY can't find a viable alternative!
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  Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:22 PM

No reason to upgrade, 10.04 still works and works well. The people upgrading today are what I call hobbyist, ie, people who constantly install linux systems just to play around.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostChrisJenks, on 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?

make sure that your software-properties is set to long support releases only then update and you should see the upgrade you can get to it from the update-manager
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:03 AM

View PostChrisJenks, on 26 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I've been trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 this morning using Update Manager, but the option to upgrade is not appearing. Does anyone know an estimate when this will be made available?


I have the same problem. I tried with update-manager -d, but it says 'BETA'. Not sure what should I do.
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  Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:06 AM

ubuntu's too hard. that's the point.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:23 AM

View Postromanbony, on 27 April 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

ubuntu's too hard. that's the point.


What? Ubuntu isn't hard, let alone too hard. When did you try it (if you ever have)?
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:39 PM

View Postromanbony, on 27 April 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

ubuntu's too hard. that's the point.


Really hope the hardest extent of your job is making sandwiches. Hopefully you don't ever have the opportunity to destroy anything that actually matters to society.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 04:14 PM

View PostStygianAgenda, on 26 April 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

I'm downloading it right now, via remote connections to 3 separate systems that I've got jobs farmed out to... gotta love mirror-sites and RDP gateways (xrdp)! ;)

I've been playing with the Beta 2 release for the past week and have been totally impressed by the speed and finesse of this version. I can't wait to upgrade my systems at home to the final release.


Been using since beta one.. Just gets better and better.

Also installed the GNOME desktop..

Start the Ubuntu software center and type in gnome

Incredible OS and for FREE!!!
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:01 PM

View PostHarryf0kq, on 26 April 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

No reason to upgrade, 10.04 still works and works well. The people upgrading today are what I call hobbyist, ie, people who constantly install linux systems just to play around.


Certainly if everything is working fine for you there is no reason to upgrade. However, by not doing so you may miss out on alot of cool new features, improvements and upgrades. Since it doesn't cost anything but a little of your time, then what's to lose?
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:29 PM

View PostSlomo76, on 26 April 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

I'd love to switch from Windows to Linux, in fact I've all ready tried it. Unfortunately I couldn't then (and still can't) use all of my window's based programs on Linux without knowing how to code & program the emulator. Until I hear someone say "Linux now fully supports windows based programs without needing to know coding, tricks, or workarounds" then I will never be able to make the switch.



Who's to say you have to do all that? Virtual Machines are a wonderful thing. I use VirtualBox and keep a Win7 VM running on my "dirty" desktop for those times I just absolutely, positively must use a Windows only application. Runs at native speed, and I can even run in in "seamless" mode which makes it run integrated right with the desktop. Or, if I want the full windows experience, I just run fullscreen and it just like I was sitting at a winbox.

Best thing about it, worst case scenario if my windows install catches a baddy from somewhere, I can restore on the fly from a snapshot and be right back to a known good point. Unlike the Windows version of "restore points", Virtualbox snapshots actually *work*.

So, if needing Windows is the only excuse you have for not running Linux, then your concerns are unfounded. Using a Linux host and Windows guest in a Virtual Machine is the ONLY sane way to run Windows nowadays.
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