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10 Things We Hate About Apple

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 02:01 AM

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:49 AM

Is this even the same article that Harry left over? It's not written by him...
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:28 AM

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Mac zealot/nazi and I don't see what the big deal was about this article. The editor who killed this article apparently changed his mind I guess.Apple is certainly not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and some of the points are quite valid. Apple is in business to change the world AND make money. They can't do the former without doing the latter.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:00 AM

This whole article just reeks of Mac envy. Why don't you just go buy a Mac and get over it already?
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:05 AM

regarding #10, Doesn't play well with others - yeah people really hate that. Any day now, they will stop buying iPods in droves and instead start buying Zune.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:38 AM

Agree with everything you mention except number 2. They do not want Microshaft to copy what they do. Remember the first release of windows and how Bill Gates was running around like crazy demanding his staff to come up with the same GUI? Apple does not want ot repeat that mistake. I wish they were more open, I would be writing this on C2D instead just a Core Duo which was released shortly after I bought mine. MS are now in the Music businesss, will be in the phone business, trying hard to beat google in the search engine business. They do not have a creative bone in ther pathtic body, so they copy. That is why apple is so secritive. No defense just an explanation.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 08:21 AM

Looks to me like this guy got fired for being a lousy writer rather than slamming on Apple. None of these things are unique to Apple nor are they bad things when you consider that the company makes both the hardware and the software. It's too bad they released this article because I could have spent my time on something worthwhile rather than reading it.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 08:51 AM

Uhh. Regarding #10, the iPod doesn't play WMA because Apple would have to license it from Microsoft. Microsoft isn't nice about things like that, you gotta pay them if you want to use their codec in a commercial product. AAC and MP3, on the other hand, don't require licensing. The Zune plays it because it's made by Microsoft (duh).Yes, Apple has DRM because of pressure from the RIAA and record companies, though that will be changing (partially, at least) soon. However, the reason they don't license it to other companies is simply a marketing reason. Why would Apple want another player to be able to play songs purchased from iTunes? That would probably decrease sales of iPods. Apple doesn't want that. They are a business, and they make business decisions like that sometimes. Get over it.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 09:19 AM

You missed two of the most important issues to those of us who are computer consultants. 1) They last so long without replacement 6-10 years 2) they hardly need outside service support. I've worked as a tech consultant for private and parochial schools for almost 20 years. As a recently reassigned principal mentioned, after being moved to a new school (all PC) his support budget is now over $60k compared to the $5k I received as a consultant at his old school basically for redoing networks and reconfiguring servers. All other support is provided by a 70 year old Nun, part time. Oh the Maytag repairman of Computers
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:24 AM

Nr 2 is very interesting. "Apple reps' infuriating stock answer: "We don't comment on future product plans." Now the only reason for you to be infuriated by that answer is because you desperately want to know what is in the pipe line... otherwise you would not care. So you hate Apple for not satisfying your curiosity of what they are working on this time... LOL! You hate Apple because you love their products and want to know what you can expect... why els? Or atleast because you know their products are news-worthy and hate it that you cant spill the beens first. Or do you hate them for successfully keeping silent and not leaking info in a very competitive branch?Anyhow, this is the strangest reason I have ever heard for anyone to hate Apple: because they don't tell me what they are planning. So in reality, it is a aknowledgment of the companies greatness and not an actual ground to hate them.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:28 AM

Nr 4: iHate because they have been successful and - just as a chart-list song that is stuck on the radio - is repeated over and over and over again. Yea... hate them for being successful. grin
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:52 AM

Smurf is correct - if we judge all these supposed negatives from a business angle, they ALL make sense.Why should Apple do ANYTHING AT ALL that isnt good for them? They are not in business to do much else but make a profit.The foolish notion that business is somehow more than that is creating havoc in our world - if you want an egalitarian computer system, then get a community of people to build it for that community, sort of like the way we have schools and hospitals.Business is for PROFIT - stop thinking its for something else, and you might have a less warped view of the world, and a less warped view of Apple; a fine business, but not a social program.And, yes, Virginia, profit IS a dirty word.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:08 AM

true story: a good friend came to me the other day and started asking about what it's like owning a Mac. He was fed up with having to take his computer to a repair guy every couple months, shelling out $100 each time to get viruses removed and otherwise take care of why his computer was so slow. He mentioned the Apple "Security" ad - you know, "Cancel or Allow?" - and that it really hit home with him. When I told him I NEVER have to think about viruses, he was incredulous. When I told him that I could teach him to administer his own system, he couldn't believe it. When I told him I NEVER have to take my Mac to the repair guy, he was stunned. I am certain his next computer will be a Mac. So go ahead, hate on Apple. There's a reason they are so high-and-mighty; they are superior computers with a superior operating system. Oh and a big FU for perpetuating that tired old trope that Macs cost so much more than PC's. It's a load of BS, especially if you have to take your PC in all the time.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:16 AM

Climacs.....in regards to your statement that they should just go buy a Mac....in the second paragraph they state that they are Mac Users. So really this is not a Windows user hating on a Mac...these are Mac users......
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:52 AM

[quote name='PutteFnasker']Nr 2 is very interesting. "Apple reps' infuriating stock answer: "We don't comment on future product plans." Now the only reason for you to be infuriated by that answer is because you desperately want to know what is in the pipe line... otherwise you would not care. So you hate Apple for not satisfying your curiosity of what they are working on this time... LOL! You hate Apple because you love their products and want to know what you can expect... why els? Or atleast because you know their products are news-worthy and hate it that you cant spill the beens first. Or do you hate them for successfully keeping silent and not leaking info in a very competitive branch?> > Anyhow, this is the strangest reason I have ever heard for anyone to hate Apple: because they don't tell me what they are planning. So in reality, it is a aknowledgment of the companies greatness and not an actual ground to hate them.You know what I hate. I bought a iPod mini the day the nano was announced because there was no hint that Apple was going to suddenly release a new iPod to replace the mini. At least MS announced that they would be releasing the zune a few months in advance so that if you happened to be in the market for an Mp3 player you knew what options there were going to be.But far be it from me to bash Apple and it's iPod strategy. After all, it must be the best out there because it has an overwhelming stranglehold on the market. Just like MS and Internet Explorer are the best because of their huge market share percentages.:roll:
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:59 AM

What do you (all) expect. Proprietary Hardware. Proprietary Software. Proprietary everything. Overpriced and overblown by Apple AND it's die hard admirers. If Apple works for you, that's great! But after all, it's just another Platform/OS - not "Jesus Christ come to cleanse the temple" (as was stated about B.L. Montgomery when he arrived at 1st Army HQ during the Battle of the Bulge. Sorry, I don't remember to whom to attribute the quote).In any case, if a Mac works for you, like I said, that's great. If it doesn't... Tough pa-tooters, 'cause ain't no way you're gonna make it work any way it doesn't want to. That's its strength, and its weakness!
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 05:10 PM

[quote name='Overstim']1- This case was so wildly misrepresented and misunderstood. They weren't suing to reveal the identity of legitimate or even illegitimate journalists, they were suing to disclose the names of people who VIOLATED THEIR NDAs- a LEGAL document! What good are NDAs if they cant be enforced? The judges' ruling on this was a big mistake.I disagree that it was misrepresented or misunderstood. Everyone clearly understood what Apple wanted and why. The problem is, Apple sued journalists, whose business interests lie in keeping their sources safe, and who had nothing to do with these NDA violations, costing them, as the article pointed out, at least $700,000 in total.Now, if you still think it's ok for Apple to sue people who were simply protecting their business interests, who had no part in violating these NDAs, and who ended up having to spend money to defend themselves, that's your right, but personally, I think Apple could have handled that a LOT better.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:39 PM

#11. Sister publication Macworld doesn't print anything unless the great King of the World, Stevie Jobs approves it (see internet articles in the last few days quoting Macworld employees stating Stevie calls Publisher OFTEN to complain about any negative Apple stories, reviews or comments). EVERYONE knows that Macworld is nothing but a puppet for Apple and Apple Developers and this has bled over to PC World more and MORE in the last few years. More calls from Stevie??This iWhole article is patronizing and NOTHING is mentioned of the YEARS of hardware FLAWS in iBooks, PowerBooks, MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iPods and 10 generations of PPC PowerMacs that have filled pages on macfixit.com and many other websites over the years.NOTHING is mentioned of the continuously Buggy OS X updates that clobber applications and hardware when applied. Where is the mention of the 4 generations of the OS X "Spinning Beach Ball of Death" bug?Denial runs deep at PC World and with Apple Droids. Wake Up!
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 01:32 PM

After continuous hang ups with 3 5th generation i pods, I can't imagine ever buying an i mac. My first generation i pod was a lot more reliable than the latest 3 I have. When it is working, It is great, but continuously needing to do a reboot to get it working again is sure frustrating. I have more problems with my i pod than with my Windows XP Pro computer which seems like it should be a lot more complicated.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 01:45 PM

"10. Doesn't Play Well With Others"NOT true. FREE iTunes/Quicktime will play WAV, Apple Lossless (like FLAC but faster to use) and AIFF, and given the appropriate Quicktime codec any other formats including Ogg Vorbis.Where is Microsoft's support for the more ubiquitious and superior non-DRMed AAC file format (make them youself) playable on many players? Why not turn any old PC into a media centre linked to your HiFi? It will play the FREE, WELL DESIGNED software offered by Apple to Windows users. Where in turn is the "non-proprietry" current version of Windows Media Player for Mac?What has Microsoft offered?What are the options with the Zune?It is a fraud to suggest that any proprietry Microsoft format is "Standard" but anything by anyone else, no matter how popular, isn't.
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