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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:04 AM

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#2 User is offline   Mattvm8v 

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  Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:01 AM

I know I see countless articles saying tablets will replace the desktop which I've always said it wouldn't happen. I've always said the tablet will replace the laptop.

Tablets serve the same purpose of a laptop which is provide a portable computer for moving around and traveling. People who buy a tablet will either choose to replace their laptop with a tablet or will own both a tablet and laptop.

Desktops have a long way to be replaced because Laptops aren't powerful enough to replace a desktop and tablets not only aren't powerful enough but don't even use the same OS the desktops do.

For a laptop to replace a desktop it will have to be as powerful as the Razor Blade, with the cost and customizability of desktop. For tablets they need to not only be as powerful and as customizable but also have the same operating system as the desktop.

I'm not saying it won't happen but in it's current state desktops are still needed while laptops and tablets fight over the same users.
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  Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:57 AM

Maybe if they dropped the prices of their laptops, customers would be more inclined to invest in one. It's all ready 2012 and Apple computers/laptops have been out for at least 5 years only to have a few upgrades. Which does not require to keep the price structure the same or even higher. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that most people cannot afford an Apple computer/laptop, at the rate they want. But like Steve Jobs said: "We don't know how to make a $500 computer [sic]." I say: "Bull!" you just don't want to.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:02 AM

View PostMattvm8v, on 28 April 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:


For a laptop to replace a desktop it will have to be as powerful as the Razor Blade, with the cost and customizability of desktop. For tablets they need to not only be as powerful and as customizable but also have the same operating system as the desktop.

I'm not saying it won't happen but in it's current state desktops are still needed while laptops and tablets fight over the same users.


Windows 8 can run on x86/x64 processors in tablets, laptops and desktops.

With a docking station connected to screen, keyboard and mouse you have a desktop. With a keyboard dock your tablet transforms into a laptop.

Tablets are already starting to get more powerful compared to a couple years old "normal desktop", so enough power is there for most office work.

This post has been edited by JohnGustavsson: 28 April 2012 - 08:04 AM

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  Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:50 AM

It is cannibalizing sales, I just bought another Macbook Pro a few months ago to replace one that was stolen, but I hardly use it except for work that is not suitable for my iPad 2, mainly graphic design and web coding. In fact the Macbook Pro is currently in the safe while my iPad 2 is right hear and ready to use. Had the older Macbook Pro not been stolen, I probably wouldn't have bought my new Macbook Pro.

As for merging the two, it's a bad idea unless Apple gets the interface right. You can't simply give the Macbook a touchscreen and call it a day. As we've seen with the HP Touch PC's it just doesn't work with the way screens are currently oriented for laptops and desktops. People who buy those use the touch interface for about a week and then realize it's easier and more comfortable to use the mouse.

As for laptops not being as powerful as desktops, unless you're gaming or something like that, you'll never notice the difference. In my experience my new Macbook Pro (Core i7 2.2Ghz) is much more faster and responsive than my Mac Pro (Dual Quad Xeon 2.5Ghz) in day to day operations.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:55 AM

View PostJohnGustavsson, on 28 April 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

View PostMattvm8v, on 28 April 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:


For a laptop to replace a desktop it will have to be as powerful as the Razor Blade, with the cost and customizability of desktop. For tablets they need to not only be as powerful and as customizable but also have the same operating system as the desktop.

I'm not saying it won't happen but in it's current state desktops are still needed while laptops and tablets fight over the same users.


Windows 8 can run on x86/x64 processors in tablets, laptops and desktops.

With a docking station connected to screen, keyboard and mouse you have a desktop. With a keyboard dock your tablet transforms into a laptop.

Tablets are already starting to get more powerful compared to a couple years old "normal desktop", so enough power is there for most office work.


May be true but then you run into the storage obstacle. No room for "heavy" programs.
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  Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:48 AM

"One can't look into a counter-factual crystal ball to view an alternate universe."

In other words, yes?

Maybe Apple should be designing Toaster Fridge 2.0?
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostAhhYonzbd, on 28 April 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

Steve Jobs said: "We don't know how to make a $500 computer [sic]." I say: "Bull!" you just don't want to.

You left out a few words there. His exact statement was, "We don't know how to make a $500 computer that isn't junk." In other words you're right, Apple doesn't want to make a cheap piece of junk, they want it to be the best possible product possible for the price.
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  Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

Well both Jobs and Ccpk spoke to soon before seeing Windows 8. Tablets are certainly cannibalizing the Mac which had poor sale numbers since day one. They only sold 122M in 28 years. HP and Dell sold that many in just the last 2.

Unless you need desktop power, a tablet can certainly replace a desktop or laptop for many. But iCloud doesn't back up everything from your iPad. On a pc backup does.

iCloud doesn't have endless storage. Your Pc does. Tablets aren't going to ever replace desktop pc or laptops.

Windows 8 tablets will eat even more into Apple computers and tablets before they eat into Windows branded computers.

Apple better enjoy it while it last because the train is about to get derailed.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:31 AM

View PostQUADICON, on 28 April 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Unless you need desktop power, a tablet can certainly replace a desktop or laptop for many. But iCloud doesn't back up everything from your iPad. On a pc backup does.

iCloud doesn't have endless storage. Your Pc does. Tablets aren't going to ever replace desktop pc or laptops.

iCloud doesn't need to have endless storage, that's what your desktop/laptop computer is for. Most users also don't need that much storage space. Even though I've created several videos of family activities, the total amount of space used on my iPad is 20.7 gigs. That's all my photos, videos, songs, and apps. For the people who need large amounts of storage, the PC is where you keep it.

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Windows 8 tablets will eat even more into Apple computers and tablets before they eat into Windows branded computers.

Why do you think that will happen? Windows tablets have never sold well to the consumer, so what makes Windows 8 different?

As for what product is eating into what market, did you know that more than 1 in 4 iPad owners had never owned any Apple products before their iPad? It's possible that those more than 1 in 4 people who bought their first ever Apple product decided to get an iPad instead of an iMac or Air, but it seems far more likely to me that it would have eaten into a possible Windows desktop/laptop sale.

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iPad and iPhone Replace iPod as the First Apple Device Owned in Households
PORT WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, APRIL 26, 2012 – The iPad is drawing new consumers to the Apple brand with more than one-in-four iPad owners saying the device is their first Apple product. According to leading market research company, The NPD Group’s recent Apple Ecosystem Study, 33 percent of U.S. homes, (37 million households) own Apple products. While a majority (69 percent) of these consumers own iPods, ownership of iPads is growing.

“iPad sales are growing much faster than any other Apple product has this soon after launch,” said Ben Arnold, director of industry analysis at NPD. “”In fact, one-in-five Apple owner households has one— nearly equivalent to the number that own an Apple computer. This demonstrates the appeal of both the new form factor and Apple’s app ecosystem.”


On top of that, owner satisfaction rate for the new iPad is incredibly high.
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  Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:47 AM

Well this idiot simply things he can replace a laptop with a tablet period. I only see that happening when an actual desktop operating system with it's software is fully optimized onto a tablet, Much like Microsoft has been attempting to do for years, Might fail, but is otherwise most likely to perfect it, more then apple is.

Plus who the hell wan't to spend over 1000$ on a laptop that's got the hardware of something worth 5-600$ Your paying for i candy, and even then i'm seeing alot of just as gorgeous Macbook clones for cheaper, some even the same price with very much better hardware inside.
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  Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:00 AM

Apple's Cook is an idiot if he can't see that the convergence of tablets and laptops will happen with or without Apple.

perhaps I'll stick with Windows 8 on a tablet when they ship.

I want a Macbook lite with detatchable tablet - both running full OS.

Comeon Apple wake up!!
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