[DominikSzewczykd6hg]

ViewRoyal, on 29 April 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

It's very obvious that Samsung paid for this expensive ( and poorly conceived) stunt.

Samsung is probably denying it because they are just too embarrassed about it (and their recent ads) backfiring, and making them look petty and immature. ;-)

Desperate is the better word.

[dreamerof]

IarrthoirFirinne, on 28 April 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

CaniblCat, on 28 April 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

As hilarious as this is, if Samsung really did orchestrate it, then they went too far.
If not, though, kudos to those who did!

doesn't matter if samsung did orchestrate it or not they have right to be heard and protest against another company stealing there patents and/or ideas and if apple is stealing idea's from other company's then it need to be dealt with accordingly. If your not part of apple either be co-worker owner or inventor how do you know they didn't steal Samsung's idea or vi-versa other way around..... it was defiantly well rehearsed I personally hope apple get's the crap sued out them because they over-priced compromised piece of crap that has more glitches then my spelling.. lol

Based on sales most don't seem to share your sentiments. As far as who stole what, the courts will decide those issues, that is why they exist. I think criticizing or protesting another company, its' customers or products at that company's home locations is unprofessional and rather childish, at best. If you personally don't like Apple or its' products there is very simple solution, buy some other company's product. A product may not fit your needs but it may fulfill needs other people have.

[Vulpinemac]

IarrthoirFirinne, on 28 April 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

CaniblCat, on 28 April 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

As hilarious as this is, if Samsung really did orchestrate it, then they went too far.
If not, though, kudos to those who did!

doesn't matter if samsung did orchestrate it or not they have right to be heard and protest against another company stealing there patents and/or ideas and if apple is stealing idea's from other company's then it need to be dealt with accordingly. If your not part of apple either be co-worker owner or inventor how do you know they didn't steal Samsung's idea or vi-versa other way around..... it was defiantly well rehearsed I personally hope apple get's the crap sued out them because they over-priced compromised piece of crap that has more glitches then my spelling.. lol

You really have to ask who is stealing from whom. The answer becomes somewhat obvious when you consider that Samsung is Apple's primary parts supplier and that Apple's phones and tablets have used Samsung's displays and certain other components almost exclusively now for five years. Strangely, it took more than two years before Samsung started succeeding with their designs and nearly every one of them looks very similar to Apple's own products. It's almost obvious that Samsung managed to analyze existing iPhone models and copy the circuitry well enough to make a phone that's almost iPhone enough to be the iPhone itself. Having that inside track on Apple's parts thus makes it easy for them to release a new Galaxy phone within months of Apple's own releases but never quite easy enough to leapfrog Apple's concepts. What Samsung hasn't been able to do, however, is copy Apple's ecosystem that ties the iPhone, the iPad and the Mac computers together so seamlessly, so despite the fact that Android is at least as capable as iOS, their Android-based phones simply cannot keep up with Apple's progress.

So, you are right up to a point; people need to invent their own devices if they want to compete with someone. It seems Apple produced this particular type of product line first and they at least attempted to get all the licenses they needed to remain legal with their products. They either used their own designs for specific features or bought the companies that created the features they needed. Their touch screen technologies ran at least a year in advance over the next nearest capable product. Their touch patterns--multitouch as it were--were created by two professors at the University of Delaware, where they created a company to market it and Apple purchased that company. Where Apple had to rely on patented components, Apple did everything it could to ensure those patents were covered--and defended themselves when one company tried to say that even though Apple was using a component by a licensed manufacturer, Apple was accountable for the secondary use of that patent--in other words despite the radio for the wireless network was covered in itself, the end product also had to pay a licensing fee. The courts ended up saying, "No. If the manufacturer of the component is paying the license, the downstream user is covered by that payment.

So who, really, is playing the patent game legitimately? Who, really, is ripping off whom?

Oh, and who's devices are really overpriced? If people are willing to pay Apple's prices, then they must believe they're getting their money's worth. You certainly don't see a lot of people returning them and asking for refunds.

[Vulpinemac]

hastaluego249, on 28 April 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Don't you love the fresh smell of desperation in the morning? What are they going to to next, put a Samsung store next to Apple? Is not like its going to help them recoup some of that 80% profit share Apple enjoys in the phone market!

It hasn't really worked for Microsoft, has it?

[Vulpinemac]

rpahk, on 29 April 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

I wonder, didn't Palm first use a touch screen on a smart phone with application icons in a grid?

Didn't Apple first use a wireless tablet-like device that ran software independently of a computer?

You can play the Chicken-or-Egg game all day. The point is that Apple has at least tried to comply with any licensing that bears on their products that they haven't patented themselves. Most of the patent arguments Apple has come up against have come out in Apple's favor either through evidence that Apple really did license that technology or that Apple sidestepped the patent entirely with one of their own that goes beyond the original patent. All that's happening from these patent wars is that companies are losing money and their lawyers are making money. If these companies were smart, they'd find a way around the arguments--and it at least appears that Apple is trying to do exactly that.

[Vulpinemac]

Mattvm8v, on 29 April 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

LouTramHOF, on 28 April 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

This is music to my ears. I still can't believe the number of my friends who are dropping $500 bones on that POS oversized iPhone that Apple branded "iPad." I purchased a full 64-bit ASUS laptop with the i5 core processor and 8 GB memory for 550 bucks. iPad can't even run every website. what a farce

I love people like this. They always compare Apples to Oranges because comparing Apples to Apples never favors their argument. In this case he's comparing a laptop to an iPad because comparing a laptop to a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro wouldn't favor him. The Apple laptops would smoke his $550 laptop. If he's unwilling to pay $2000 for a laptop then he shouldn't even be here talking about Apple products.

This is no different than Android users unwilling to pay the same price for an iPhone. They try and justify owning Android over the iPhone by making excuses like Android has more users and Android is better because there's more freedom. But what it all boils down to is the fact they aren't willing to pay $200 or more for a device.

I don't even own an iPhone or a Mac but I really hate people who pretty much are trying to justify being cheap. If you're cheap your cheap, that's your business. But you shouldn't attack a company solely because you're unwilling to pay as much for that same type of product offered by the other company. Android users who pay $200 or more have every right to attack iPhone but not those unwilling to pay at least $200. And this guy has no business attacking Apple because it's obvious he's unwilling to pay the same price for a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro as he paid for his laptop.

Just to let everyone know. I own a $200 Android phone and own a $1000 desktop. Only Apple product I own is an iPod Touch 4G. So kinda hard to say I'm an Apple fanboy when I own an Android phone over an iPhone and I own a Windows PC over a Mac. The reason I go after people that insult Apple is because it's unfair. Being cheap is not a reason to attack a company.

Hear, hear!

I don't argue anyone's right to choose what they want; I only argue those who claim their choice is the only valid choice.

[userwloo]

rofl "we want people to invent their own stuff" says every new ipad and iphone now copying the same hardware as seen in phones released before it.
yawn.

god this is like windows copied mac or vice versa, they needa just get over it. I also really doubt samsung had anything to do with this, was probly one of the ad companies.

[BaliRob1]

Samsung should concentrate on helping the millions of dissatisfied television and air conditioner users who are receiving no sympathy, backup or any consideration for their defective products before playing games. If any doubters I can give details of US class actions and personal horrifying details of sub-standard components in EVERY product they promote. Poor old Sony who had such a good reputation for quality - where are you?

[Vulpinemac]

userwloo, on 29 April 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

rofl "we want people to invent their own stuff" says every new ipad and iphone now copying the same hardware as seen in phones released before it.
yawn.

god this is like windows copied mac or vice versa, they needa just get over it. I also really doubt samsung had anything to do with this, was probly one of the ad companies.

And who paid the ad company? Who would have the money to hire 50 people, outfit them, rent a bus and skin it all in black and white? For a one-hour (or whatever) protest, it did have significant money behind it. Nobody not connected with Samsung would want to spend that kind of cash out of pocket. Ergo, logically Samsung one way or another paid for that event.

[42n81]

Vulpinemac, on 30 April 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

userwloo, on 29 April 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

rofl "we want people to invent their own stuff" says every new ipad and iphone now copying the same hardware as seen in phones released before it.
yawn.

god this is like windows copied mac or vice versa, they needa just get over it. I also really doubt samsung had anything to do with this, was probly one of the ad companies.

And who paid the ad company? Who would have the money to hire 50 people, outfit them, rent a bus and skin it all in black and white? For a one-hour (or whatever) protest, it did have significant money behind it. Nobody not connected with Samsung would want to spend that kind of cash out of pocket. Ergo, logically Samsung one way or another paid for that event.

Well ... If I was Apple and I wanted to make Samsung look really dumb ...

Oh, what am I thinking. Samsung doesn't need anybody's help to look dumb.

[Samr614]

Watch, all this tension and crap in the middle east and N Korea, and our next war will probably be started over phones. lol.

[Nuke61]

I guess this is one way for RIM to get in the news without it being more news along the lost market share, lower profits, etc. type of news. I still don't understand how it actually helps them though.

[42n81]

RIM admits that it organized anti-Apple flashmob

... and kind of funny:

Research In Motion is 'very, very close' to hiring marketer

I still think Samsung should also fire its marketing department.

[42n81]

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[Evildave]

Dream on, RIM.

BTW, Microsoft is the one gunning RIM, not Apple. They're going to want to differentiate their windoze 8 phones by being 'business friendly', you know, like a Blackberry is.

So not only is RIM paranoid, they're paranoid about people who aren't really doing RIM much harm, by seriously competing in the same niche that Blackberry/RIM almost exclusively exists in. Apple/Google grew the 'smart phone' market, rather than shrank RIM's customer base.

All that 'Office Integration' that Microsoft is talking about is what will hit RIM at home, and start driving the nails into RIM's coffin with DIRECT competition for their corporate users.

Microsoft DREAMS of having anything like the 2% market share that RIM has.

Microsoft will probably spend three times what RIM is worth, to take RIM's market away from them. They will knock on every RIM customer's door with 'special deals' and 'help' to 'migrate' to 'the future'.

If Microsoft isn't a bunch of fools, RIM will be Microsoft's Normandy. Their beachhead into the cellular market.

If Microsoft wants to just spin their wheels and burn money, they'll try to take on Android/iOS directly.

So go do a flash mob where they sell windows phones... if you can find any. This time next year, RIM will probably be in some serious trouble. Because when Microsoft uses their substantial cash reserves to do a little predatory marketing, RIM will be doomed. Or weakened to the point where they can be taken over for cheap. There's sure to be some products, licenses and patents worth something in there, somewhere to be strip mined.

[cipnrkorvo]

dreamerof, on 29 April 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

IarrthoirFirinne, on 28 April 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

CaniblCat, on 28 April 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

As hilarious as this is, if Samsung really did orchestrate it, then they went too far.
If not, though, kudos to those who did!

doesn't matter if samsung did orchestrate it or not they have right to be heard and protest against another company stealing there patents and/or ideas and if apple is stealing idea's from other company's then it need to be dealt with accordingly. If your not part of apple either be co-worker owner or inventor how do you know they didn't steal Samsung's idea or vi-versa other way around..... it was defiantly well rehearsed I personally hope apple get's the crap sued out them because they over-priced compromised piece of crap that has more glitches then my spelling.. lol

Based on sales most don't seem to share your sentiments. As far as who stole what, the courts will decide those issues, that is why they exist. I think criticizing or protesting another company, its' customers or products at that company's home locations is unprofessional and rather childish, at best. If you personally don't like Apple or its' products there is very simple solution, buy some other company's product. A product may not fit your needs but it may fulfill needs other people have.

The one need it definitely does fulfill is the need to show others you have enough money to waste it on overpriced products. look guys, i'm rich!

[Nuke61]

cipnrkorvo, on 25 July 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

The one need it definitely does fulfill is the need to show others you have enough money to waste it on overpriced products. look guys, i'm rich!

My wife paid the same amount of money for her iPhone 4s that I did for my DInc2. How is an iPhone overpriced?