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Pc Tools Threatfire Free
#2
Posted 20 October 2012 - 10:21 AM
I'm more than a little skeptical of this review and ThreatFire.
This review is dated 4/30/2012, which is recent enough except that nowhere does it mention that this is an antique as far as technology goes. The last version of ThreatFire I can find mentioned anywhere, is version 4.7, which dates back to 2007. How is it possible, in this age of ever evolving technology, for a 5 year old application to be current and effective?
What is more, the owner of this software, PC Tools, has made the following statement regarding ThreatFire:
"PC Tools ThreatFire™ has been retired as a standalone product".
What PC Tools has done, however, is incorporate some form of this program (so they say) into a $55 yearly subscription product.
How safe are you feeling about this product now?
This review is dated 4/30/2012, which is recent enough except that nowhere does it mention that this is an antique as far as technology goes. The last version of ThreatFire I can find mentioned anywhere, is version 4.7, which dates back to 2007. How is it possible, in this age of ever evolving technology, for a 5 year old application to be current and effective?
What is more, the owner of this software, PC Tools, has made the following statement regarding ThreatFire:
"PC Tools ThreatFire™ has been retired as a standalone product".
What PC Tools has done, however, is incorporate some form of this program (so they say) into a $55 yearly subscription product.
How safe are you feeling about this product now?
#3
Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:27 PM
I guess no debate is allowed here. Fastbullet is the foremost expert of all things. Congratulations Fastbullet!!
#6
Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:10 AM
Again, to see that a behavior blocker such as TF DOES NOT need constant babying and support via malware signature updates, watch the following reviews:
http://youtu.be/EAH8TGkbeR0
Furthermore, Threatfire's latest edition is 4.7.0.53, as you can now see. The last time that it was being officially developed was in 2011. Database and product updates are still being received, so SOMEONE is doing SOMETHING with it regardless of how unofficial it appears to be.
The pseudo notion that HIPS, HIDS, or behavior blockers need constant signature updates is a futile attempt to defeat the actual R&D that built them, and we know that particular R&D is cutting edge; THE FUTURE. Pretty soon it is going to be all sandboxes and HIPS or behavior blockers. There is no getting around it as malware authors get more crafty and internet connections get universally faster. Besides that, governments are releasing nasty malware that is adding to the challenge of getting ZERO HOUR (zero second in some cases) signature updates out to the customer by any given antimalware firm that supports signature based security that will soon be obsolete in my humble opinion. Honey pots and NIDS (network intrusion detection systems) will be on the cutting edge of security as well.
IMO, TF is currently being squandered for a huge retooled release within the next year. You will hear nothing official about it until it comes out in beta. It is a great foundation for someone else to buy the rights to and improve dramatically to be a major player.
Those reviews show that it is already a heavy hitter as is. The downside is that when settings are aggressive like that, you must white-list around one hundred legitimate actions or more. That is my case anyway. Once you do that, no one is going to be sneaking around on your PC too easily with forecast devices, malicious or otherwise.
FYI: I did not get paid to write this. I am not employed by PCWorld.
http://youtu.be/EAH8TGkbeR0
Furthermore, Threatfire's latest edition is 4.7.0.53, as you can now see. The last time that it was being officially developed was in 2011. Database and product updates are still being received, so SOMEONE is doing SOMETHING with it regardless of how unofficial it appears to be.
The pseudo notion that HIPS, HIDS, or behavior blockers need constant signature updates is a futile attempt to defeat the actual R&D that built them, and we know that particular R&D is cutting edge; THE FUTURE. Pretty soon it is going to be all sandboxes and HIPS or behavior blockers. There is no getting around it as malware authors get more crafty and internet connections get universally faster. Besides that, governments are releasing nasty malware that is adding to the challenge of getting ZERO HOUR (zero second in some cases) signature updates out to the customer by any given antimalware firm that supports signature based security that will soon be obsolete in my humble opinion. Honey pots and NIDS (network intrusion detection systems) will be on the cutting edge of security as well.
IMO, TF is currently being squandered for a huge retooled release within the next year. You will hear nothing official about it until it comes out in beta. It is a great foundation for someone else to buy the rights to and improve dramatically to be a major player.
Those reviews show that it is already a heavy hitter as is. The downside is that when settings are aggressive like that, you must white-list around one hundred legitimate actions or more. That is my case anyway. Once you do that, no one is going to be sneaking around on your PC too easily with forecast devices, malicious or otherwise.
FYI: I did not get paid to write this. I am not employed by PCWorld.
#7
Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:17 AM
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Again, to see that a behavior blocker such as TF DOES NOT need constant babying and support via malware signature updates, watch the following reviews: http://youtu.be/EAH8TGkbeR0 Furthermore, Threatfire's latest edition is 4.7.0.53, as you can now see. The last time that it was being officially developed was in 2011. Database and product updates are still being received, so SOMEONE is doing SOMETHING with it regardless of how unofficial it appears to be. The pseudo notion that HIPS, HIDS, or behavior blockers need constant signature updates is a futile attempt to defeat the actual R&D that built them, and we know that particular R&D is cutting edge; THE FUTURE. Pretty soon it is going to be all sandboxes and HIPS or behavior blockers. There is no getting around it as malware authors get more crafty and internet connections get universally faster. Besides that, governments are releasing nasty malware that is adding to the challenge of getting ZERO HOUR (zero second in some cases) signature updates out to the customer by any given antimalware firm that supports signature based security that will soon be obsolete in my humble opinion. Honey pots and NIDS (network intrusion detection systems) will be on the cutting edge of security as well. IMO, TF is currently being squandered for a huge retooled release within the next year. You will hear nothing official about it until it comes out in beta. It is a great foundation for someone else to buy the rights to and improve dramatically to be a major player. Those reviews show that it is already a heavy hitter as is. The downside is that when settings are aggressive like that, you must white-list around one hundred legitimate actions or more. That is my case anyway. Once you do that, no one is going to be sneaking around on your PC too easily with forecast devices, malicious or otherwise. FYI: I did not get paid to write this. I am not employed by PCWorld.
#9
Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:29 PM
Yes. I recommend Online Armor Free w/HIPS by Emsisoft. Set it to use learning mode as you are installing it, then never use "learning mode" again. Then review the programs that OA marked as safe while it was in learning mode.
Set it "not to trust" via "program > options" Then check the following boxes: Prompt when running unknown programs, Hidden processes detection, Notify when OA blocks a program, and Automatically block programs with suspicious file names. Those are the only four boxes you should checkmark under that tab.
Make sure HIPS is activated and turn off the WEB SHIELD.
Make sure your software that facilitates your internet connection is set to "Trust" and "Allow", or you will not be able to get online.
Set it "not to trust" via "program > options" Then check the following boxes: Prompt when running unknown programs, Hidden processes detection, Notify when OA blocks a program, and Automatically block programs with suspicious file names. Those are the only four boxes you should checkmark under that tab.
Make sure HIPS is activated and turn off the WEB SHIELD.
Make sure your software that facilitates your internet connection is set to "Trust" and "Allow", or you will not be able to get online.
#10
Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:31 PM
Malwarebytes and HitMan Pro are nice to have around for efficient, convenient and powerful on-demand scanning.
#11
Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:32 PM
Run a scan with Dr. WebCureit (beta) once a month to check for worms and viruses.
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