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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:50 AM

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#2 User is offline   RolandTaylor 

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  Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:28 PM

I sure hope that the 2D and 3D versions either do not merge, or do not become Qt only :(
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  Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:33 PM

Honestly, I'd like to see an option to return to the Gnome desktop like they had in 11.04
I find myself having to do (at least) twice the work to get what I want with Unity.
How about this? An option to "merge" the Unity icon bar with the top task bar. Having both there simultaneous is a bit superfluous.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:00 PM

View PostCannibalCat, on 02 May 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Honestly, I'd like to see an option to return to the Gnome desktop like they had in 11.04
I find myself having to do (at least) twice the work to get what I want with Unity.
How about this? An option to "merge" the Unity icon bar with the top task bar. Having both there simultaneous is a bit superfluous.


Open up terminal copy and paste the following

sudo apt-get install gnome-shell

Thats it you are done, you now have gnome

Reboot the system, switch to gnome

You can also try out LxdE

sudo apt-get install lxde-core

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  Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:44 PM

@CannibalCat: There was an intriguing question asked in the session that's related: "If a part of the community want to start a new flavor with a pure GNOME Shell experience, what steps should it take to become an officially recognised flavor?" To which Shuttleworth answered: "same as for Lubuntu or Xubuntu or Kubuntu, really."
Food for thought!
- Katherine.
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  Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:10 PM

What's coming next? I hope a version that works is coming soon!
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:39 PM

View PostRandyFrancis, on 02 May 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

What's coming next? I hope a version that works is coming soon!


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  Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:26 PM

I'm not an Ubuntu user anymore. Abandoned it way back with 8.10. Generally going in all the wrong directions since then. The big problem Ubuntu has is that Mark Shuttleworth thinks he's Steve Jobs. And Steve Jobs was a [censored] who thought he had genuinely good ideas on how people use computers. For a non-Apple fanboy assessment of how good Jobs was at what he did: Jobs was among the worst "innovators" on the desktop with maybe only every 1 out of 20 ideas actually being usable and the rest being made just to be "different." Shuttleworth operates in the exact same ways.

1. Good. Menus belong in any self-respecting interface. Otherwise the "tucked away" features less used will clutter up interfaces to all hell or will require people to memorize keyboard shortcuts. However, it still sounds like Shuttleworth still intends to move forward eventually with this terrible idea.

2. A friend of mine astutely pointed out that Unity is "moderately better than GNOME 3" Considering how godawful and unusable GNOME 3 is in most circumstances, this should give a good idea of why Unity has found absolutely zero adoption outside of Ubuntu. Mint itself is opting instead to create and mold Cinnamon as the possible definitive GNOME 3 alternative aside from serious contender Plasma Workspace (Part of the KDE Software Compilation.) and lightweight hitters such as Xfce and Lxde. Unity only being "two-thirds done" isn't exactly very encouraging considering it's already being forced on mainstream Ubuntu users despite this fact.

3. This is still maybe the top of the top reasons why Ubuntu is going to lose its user base within the next few years. Wayland. Say it with me: "Wayland." Every Xorg alternative to date has failed abysmally at replacing Xorg. Wayland will not be an exception to this. This is due in no small part to the fact that Mark Shuttleworth is vastly overestimating upcoming application support for it. Few window managers will be ported to it, only the most mainstream desktop environments and most, but not all, of their software compilations will see Wayland ports. This is only one of many reasons why Wayland will fail to even make a dent in Xorg. Another reason being that official support for Wayland by hardware manufacturers will be completely absent, unlike with Xorg. nVidia has very publicly announced many times they will not provide any Wayland support at all in their drivers. Considering the immaturity of Nouveau and the unwillingness of its developers to provide any official support or development for OpenGL means that the majority of Linux nVidia users will be left in the lurch when Ubuntu makes this switch. I also take pains to point out that generally, in Linux graphics right now, either you have excellent KMS support, which Wayland requires, or excellent OpenGL support, which is what will make Wayland "good," but rarely will you find a driver/GPU combination that'll get you both. Prognosis? Wayland is doomeed unless it can drop KMS requirements. This will not happen. I wouldn't hold my breath for Wayland to have excellent Xorg compatibility, either.

4. Big deal. So far Canonical's attempts at making their horribly ugly color schemes better have failed. Face it: Orange and brown are ugly colors. Introducing purple didn't help.

5. Even Mark Shuttleworth isn't falling into the "Secure Boot" bandwagon a lot of alarmists are falling into these days because they misunderstand how UEFI works and what Microsoft was actually calling for. Still, early reviews for windows 8 by pubdits wouldn't have called 8 "gutsy" but just downright "shitty."

6. More evidence Mark Shuttleworth thinks he's Steve Jobs. Ubuntu TV will last for exactly two releases before Canonical realizes they can't really sustain it. As for "Ubuntu for Android?" The point of that being...? Junking up smartphones with software that is ill-suited for smartphones?
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:17 AM

I've been using Linux (Ubuntu distro) since its 11.04 version. I like Linux & want to go on with it.
I've recently upgraded my UBUNTU 11.10 to UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.

Main problem is while connecting to Internet using connection/network settings Ubuntu can not detect my USB modem. I've searched a lot in web. But no perfect result is shown. Is there any solution ??? If yes, please provide me immediately.
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:19 AM

I've been using Linux (Ubuntu distro) since its 11.04 version. I like Linux & want to go on with it.
I've recently upgraded my UBUNTU 11.10 to UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.

Main problem is while connecting to Internet using connection/network settings Ubuntu can not detect my USB modem. I've searched a lot in web. But no perfect result is shown. Is there any solution ??? If yes, please provide me immediately.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:33 AM

View Postashimsarkar, on 04 May 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

I've been using Linux (Ubuntu distro) since its 11.04 version. I like Linux & want to go on with it.
I've recently upgraded my UBUNTU 11.10 to UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.

Main problem is while connecting to Internet using connection/network settings Ubuntu can not detect my USB modem. I've searched a lot in web. But no perfect result is shown. Is there any solution ??? If yes, please provide me immediately.


Possibly, but we'd need more details on the modem. I'd suggest posting a question regarding it over in the Linux forums (on this board). As much information as you an provide on the modem itself and any other relevant hardware you're using would be a huge help.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:15 PM

View Postlinuxrants7xpg, on 04 May 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

View Postashimsarkar, on 04 May 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

I've been using Linux (Ubuntu distro) since its 11.04 version. I like Linux & want to go on with it.
I've recently upgraded my UBUNTU 11.10 to UBUNTU 12.04 LTS.

Main problem is while connecting to Internet using connection/network settings Ubuntu can not detect my USB modem. I've searched a lot in web. But no perfect result is shown. Is there any solution ??? If yes, please provide me immediately.


Possibly, but we'd need more details on the modem. I'd suggest posting a question regarding it over in the Linux forums (on this board). As much information as you an provide on the modem itself and any other relevant hardware you're using would be a huge help.



Open terminal and type in lsusb

This will tell you what USB device you are using. then Google your device and the word Ubuntu 12.04. I am sure you will find solutions or a reason why your device is not working.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:07 PM


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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:36 AM

View PostRolandTaylor, on 02 May 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

I sure hope that the 2D and 3D versions either do not merge, or do not become Qt only :(

What's wrong with that? There are quite a few people who prefer the 2D version (like myself) for the speed benefits and non reliance on graphic acceleration. If the functionality of 2D and 3D mirror each other and look great in QT, then I'm all for it.
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