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[Pjeddore]

Looks like the time is coming when we will be forced to decide if we want to follow Google's Path or Microsoft's path...I don't see us being able to have both systems on our computers like in the old days any more.

[LemonSaucy]

MSN Messenger
Windows Messenger
Windows Live Messenger
.. and so on ..

Can't Microsoft ever settle on this?

[KeithLYoung]

ALL OF THEIR "LIVE" services were / are large, cumbersome, and great resource hogs. I didn't use them for just that reason. Glad to see it all go away.

[Papaspud9qta]

KeithLYoung, on 02 May 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

ALL OF THEIR "LIVE" services were / are large, cumbersome, and great resource hogs. I didn't use them for just that reason. Glad to see it all go away.

Why would you even care if they went away, if you don't use them????? The troll is strong in this one.

[HeejunKim]

Now MS has only one shot..

[ClaudeD]

MS, A major pack of Village Idiots. They continue to screw around and they will drive themselves out of business. Android or Java could spell their demise.

[scophi]

"The Desktop Is in the Way"

I cringed when I read this statement. There are still a large portion of computer users that rely mostly or entirely on the desktop and that's not going to change. Not everyone uses/needs tablets or cloud services. Nor do we need an OS where the desktop just "gets in the way."

Despite what Hollywood and Apple wants you to believe, not everyone is "on the go" or "out in the field". Millions upon millions of jobs are still done in stationary cubicles. Mobility is not a factor. A laptop or tablet in my office, for example, would be useless and just collect dust in the corner.

Likewise, not all home users need a mobile system. My computer is more than sufficient to hold all my files. I don't need to access them elsewhere. If I do, I carry them on a flash drive. And I don't have to worry about cloud services not working or online files being scanned for content and ads.

I believe the tablet phenomenon is being overstated. I have seen numbers which state that a gajillion tablets have been sold. But of my circle of friends (~25), only 1 has a tablet. At my job (multi-hospital system with 3,500 employees) I have never seen one in use. I don't see people using them in the malls or restaurants or at the beach. And I regularly attend educational conferences and never see them carried around. So where are the hordes of tablet users? Are they hiding underground? I just don't see them.

For Microsoft to make a cloud-centric OS that is geared toward mobile devices is short-sighted...and honestly, a slap in the face for long-time desktop users. Desktops are not going away and neither should desktop OS's.

[garak0410]

I wonder if a new email domain is on its way. I really can't see myself using myname@windowsaccount
com... having both @hotmail and @live is still going to cause confusion.

[anonymousr46j]

LemonSaucy, on 02 May 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

MSN Messenger
Windows Messenger
Windows Live Messenger
.. and so on ..

Can't Microsoft ever settle on this?

Yes: Messaging

[anonymousr46j]

scophi, on 03 May 2012 - 04:46 AM, said:

"The Desktop Is in the Way"

I cringed when I read this statement. There are still a large portion of computer users that rely mostly or entirely on the desktop and that's not going to change. Not everyone uses/needs tablets or cloud services. Nor do we need an OS where the desktop just "gets in the way."

Despite what Hollywood and Apple wants you to believe, not everyone is "on the go" or "out in the field". Millions upon millions of jobs are still done in stationary cubicles. Mobility is not a factor. A laptop or tablet in my office, for example, would be useless and just collect dust in the corner.

Likewise, not all home users need a mobile system. My computer is more than sufficient to hold all my files. I don't need to access them elsewhere. If I do, I carry them on a flash drive. And I don't have to worry about cloud services not working or online files being scanned for content and ads.

I believe the tablet phenomenon is being overstated. I have seen numbers which state that a gajillion tablets have been sold. But of my circle of friends (~25), only 1 has a tablet. At my job (multi-hospital system with 3,500 employees) I have never seen one in use. I don't see people using them in the malls or restaurants or at the beach. And I regularly attend educational conferences and never see them carried around. So where are the hordes of tablet users? Are they hiding underground? I just don't see them.

For Microsoft to make a cloud-centric OS that is geared toward mobile devices is short-sighted...and honestly, a slap in the face for long-time desktop users. Desktops are not going away and neither should desktop OS's.

"The Desktop is in the way", you make it seems as though Microsoft said that. Did they?

[BulldogXX]

Looks like Microsoft is painting itself into a corner. But this time, it can't force users into that same corner. Gone are the days when Microsoft could impose its will on the computing public.

[scophi]

anonymousr46j, on 03 May 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

"The Desktop is in the way", you make it seems as though Microsoft said that. Did they?

Umm...its the very first section header they use in the article. That's what half the article is about.

Microsoft didn't say it, but it's obvious that's what they feel. That's why there are articles like this being written. It's why 8 will have a slow adoption rate. People don't want a system where they have to relearn everything they do.

This post has been edited by scophi: 03 May 2012 - 06:18 AM

[scophi]

BulldogXX, on 03 May 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

Looks like Microsoft is painting itself into a corner. But this time, it can't force users into that same corner. Gone are the days when Microsoft could impose its will on the computing public.

Windows still accounts for 86% of the OS market (92% if you only look at desktops). So, yeah they can still impost their will.
http://www.netmarket...re.aspx?qprid=8

This post has been edited by scophi: 03 May 2012 - 06:20 AM

[VictorDanielAlvaradoArriaga]

ClaudeD, on 02 May 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

MS, A major pack of Village Idiots. They continue to screw around and they will drive themselves out of business. Android or Java could spell their demise.

JAVA? Srsly? Isn't that crap dead yet?

[NickanFayyazi]

VictorDanielAlvaradoArriaga, on 09 May 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

ClaudeD, on 02 May 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

MS, A major pack of Village Idiots. They continue to screw around and they will drive themselves out of business. Android or Java could spell their demise.

JAVA? Srsly? Isn't that crap dead yet?

Ever heard of Minecraft? 34 million users, with 2 more every second. And it's only 3 years old. And it's programmed in Java. So now, your point is dead. No more cursing from this one, I hope.

[NickanFayyazi]

scophi, on 03 May 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

BulldogXX, on 03 May 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

Looks like Microsoft is painting itself into a corner. But this time, it can't force users into that same corner. Gone are the days when Microsoft could impose its will on the computing public.

Windows still accounts for 86% of the OS market (92% if you only look at desktops). So, yeah they can still impost their will.
http://www.netmarket...re.aspx?qprid=8

2 PCs are bought for every Mac. A decade ago, it was 12 PCs per Mac. So, no, they can no longer impose their will.

[waldojim]

NickanFayyazi, on 09 July 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

scophi, on 03 May 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

BulldogXX, on 03 May 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

Looks like Microsoft is painting itself into a corner. But this time, it can't force users into that same corner. Gone are the days when Microsoft could impose its will on the computing public.

Windows still accounts for 86% of the OS market (92% if you only look at desktops). So, yeah they can still impost their will.
http://www.netmarket...re.aspx?qprid=8

2 PCs are bought for every Mac. A decade ago, it was 12 PCs per Mac. So, no, they can no longer impose their will.

Sure seems odd then that Apple still accounts for about 5% of the market... as they have maintained for years.