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[AlexKorshunov]

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

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AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

Define "better". Is "better" the same for all users?

[Gnerf]

Is GPS just too unimportant to be considered a feature worth mentioning?

[FalKirk]

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Android 4 much better than iOS.

First, only 4% of Android devices have Android 4.0.

Second, the iPad has an unheard of 98% customer satisfaction rating, with 82% saying that they are "very satisfied".

Source: Survey: 2012 iPad Satisfaction Reaches 98 Percent, MacObserver, Apr 2, 2012

When you come back with some support for your unsupported opinion and when you stop acting as if your opinions are facts, then we'll talk.

[FalKirk]

"Apple continues to have the more mature app ecosystem, even if your capabilities are sometimes limited by Apple’s walled-garden heavy-handedness."

"Somewhat limited"? How so? More Apps, better quality apps, apps developed for iOS first and Android second if ever, less viruses, less piracy, less clones, and easier to buy and for.

How exactly is that "limiting"?

[artzy65]

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

This post has been edited by artzy65: 03 May 2012 - 08:49 AM

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AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

Which ICS tablet do you own or use? Is your comment about ICS being "better" based in personal experience and usage or is it based on theory, tech specs, and reading the tech press?

[melgross]

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

[42n81]

melgross, on 03 May 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

... and there you have it. Very well put.

Apple, on the other hand, decided to provide a device and an ecosystem aimed at the rest of us.

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42n81, on 03 May 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

melgross, on 03 May 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

... and there you have it. Very well put.

Apple, on the other hand, decided to provide a device and an ecosystem aimed at the rest of us.

"The rest of us" echoes the original Apple slogan, "Computers for the rest of us." Since the Apple II (with the exception of the dark years sans Jobs) Apple has put empowering the user as the primary goal of its products"

This post has been edited by nonseq: 03 May 2012 - 10:19 AM

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FalKirk, on 03 May 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Android 4 much better than iOS.

First, only 4% of Android devices have Android 4.0.

100% of the Android tablets listed in this article use Android 4.0

[artzy65]

melgross, on 03 May 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

I'm glad you said that, not me. I tired of taking the time to try to set Apple naysayers (tech geeks) straight about what the average consumer actually needs or wants. There's no point... they will just call me too stupid to figure out Android (or Windows, for that matter).

This post has been edited by artzy65: 03 May 2012 - 11:31 AM

[WallyDuke]

FalKirk, on 03 May 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Android 4 much better than iOS.

First, only 4% of Android devices have Android 4.0.

Second, the iPad has an unheard of 98% customer satisfaction rating, with 82% saying that they are "very satisfied".

Source: Survey: 2012 iPad Satisfaction Reaches 98 Percent, MacObserver, Apr 2, 2012

When you come back with some support for your unsupported opinion and when you stop acting as if your opinions are facts, then we'll talk.

1. 100% of the Android devices in this article run ICS.
2. You site MacObserver for your pro-Apple propaganda? Nice!
3. This is kind of nit-picking, but simply calling something "better" implies it is an opinion and opinions need no support, they're just opinions, even when they're absurd.
You make some good points, but your bias shows through so much that it hurts your credibility.

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artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

melgross, on 03 May 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

I'm glad you said that, not me. I tired of taking the time to try to set Apple naysayers (tech geeks) straight about what the average consumer actually needs or wants. There's no point... they will just call me too stupid to figure out Android (or Windows, for that matter).

But the key here is this. Those very same Apple naysayers don't seem to have the insight, empathy, or vision to create a product of their own that will be as successful the iPod, iPhone, iPad, and Mac. It also appears that they have zero concerns for the user if the user is not a techie or geek or if the user has a vision different than their own.

All they can do is pick nits, much like chimpanzees.

This post has been edited by nonseq: 03 May 2012 - 12:02 PM

[WallyDuke]

FalKirk, on 03 May 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

"Apple continues to have the more mature app ecosystem, even if your capabilities are sometimes limited by Apple’s walled-garden heavy-handedness."

"Somewhat limited"? How so? More Apps, better quality apps, apps developed for iOS first and Android second if ever, less viruses, less piracy, less clones, and easier to buy and for.

How exactly is that "limiting"?

Yes, the iPad is limited by more and better apps and the rest of your nonsensical dribble. You sure showed the author. Zinger!
The very next sentence in the article gives two, albeit similar, examples. Don't tell me you stopped reading right there so you could write a scathing comment about the author. Please do us all a favor and put a sock in you propaganda spewing pie-hole. You may not realize it, but you are embarrassing yourself.

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WallyDuke, on 03 May 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

FalKirk, on 03 May 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Android 4 much better than iOS.

First, only 4% of Android devices have Android 4.0.

Second, the iPad has an unheard of 98% customer satisfaction rating, with 82% saying that they are "very satisfied".

Source: Survey: 2012 iPad Satisfaction Reaches 98 Percent, MacObserver, Apr 2, 2012

When you come back with some support for your unsupported opinion and when you stop acting as if your opinions are facts, then we'll talk.

1. 100% of the Android devices in this article run ICS.
2. You site MacObserver for your pro-Apple propaganda? Nice!
3. This is kind of nit-picking, but simply calling something "better" implies it is an opinion and opinions need no support, they're just opinions, even when they're absurd.
You make some good points, but your bias shows through so much that it hurts your credibility.

• Correct.
• MacObserver were just reporting a survey actually done by Changewave
• I disagree. "I prefer Android" is an opinion. "Android is better for me" is an opinion. "Android is better" is—to my mind—a statement that needs support.

Your own bias is every bit as obvious, and with comments like "propaganda spewing pie-hole" you are in no position to accuse others of embarrassing themselves.

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From the article...

"The toughest sell around Android tablets currently remains the rough state of Android tablet apps. A handful of apps impress, and the rest, well, don’t. And finding apps truly optimized for a 10-inch class tablet remains a challenge, more than a year after from the introduction of the first Android tablet operating system. Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich has not been the great savior for tablet apps as was once hoped; too many apps continue to look like blown-up smartphone apps, instead of apps that truly take advantage of a tablet’s extra screen real estate.

By contrast, Apple continues to have the more mature app ecosystem, even if your capabilities are sometimes limited by Apple’s walled-garden heavy-handedness. The lack of file-level control and direct file transfers (only syncing and file transfer via iTunes or the cloud) remain unfortunate constraints on Apple’s otherwise appealing tablet."

[PCCoder]

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

melgross, on 03 May 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

artzy65, on 03 May 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

AlexKorshunov, on 03 May 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

WTF? And again the better choice is Apple iPad? Android 4 much better than iOS. Android Tablets have a memory card slot and other andvatages, but you still tell us that Apple is the best. How may they pay to you? Terrible article.

To borrow an Apple term, your Android device "just works".

For you.

Except that Android devices don't "just work" for many people. They are still best for geeks who like to play around doing things most people don't care about.

I'm glad you said that, not me. I tired of taking the time to try to set Apple naysayers (tech geeks) straight about what the average consumer actually needs or wants. There's no point... they will just call me too stupid to figure out Android (or Windows, for that matter).

I'm an Android/Windows user and Macs stump me all the time, I think we all have our own idea of what makes sense and should not call each other stupid for not immediately getting one platform or another.

[42n81]

WallyDuke, on 03 May 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

[snip]..... it is an opinion and opinions need no support, they're just opinions, even when they're absurd.
You make some good points, but your bias shows through so much that it hurts your credibility.

Actually, the best way to hurt your credibility around these parts is to express an opinion you are not ready to support.

There is a special place for that kind of opinion. Don't forget to flush after expressing one.

Unless, of course, that "opinion" is only a brainfart (i.e. one wants to express one's innermost thought, but nothing of substance presents itself), then one might just open a few Windows. (any version will do).

This post has been edited by 42n81: 03 May 2012 - 01:19 PM