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[JohnUSA]

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

[RichardHurst]

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII. No you may have an opinion, but the facts point to a very successful launch of this. IE 1 million downloads in 48 hours of the consumer preview. Microsoft will be here, no matter how much you dislike the products they produce.

[Jimboj483]

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

[ClaudeD]

"Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS", revolutionary is apparently a buzz word for "so bad, its nearly uinusable". Yet there are always users out there whom want their computer to look like a cell phone. The there is who needs a 20 lb cell phone and how long do you want to scroll around looking for your app. MILLENNIUM, VISTA, WINDOWS 8, all share a lot of commonality, they stink. But complain all you want either way all the new pc's after X date will have the Win8\cell phone looking interface and like Vista's record sales, Windows 8 will share in its glory of record sales(liars). If we are lucky the downturn in the economy will make Win8 look like it really is..... The more scary parts is what can MS do for the next version of windows, although it would be hard to believe they could make it more difficult to use than Win8 but it is likely they could.

[RobC0oqz]

Windows 8: the new Bob.

[zeth006]

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

Reminds me of all those haters who pledge to boycott a game only to later buy it in droves. Seems to happen with a lot of Valve games. It's always funny seeing the list of protestors who bought the game on release day posted online.

[sandkicker]

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means. I have a lot of somewhat expensive software on Both DVD and CD for photography. When I shoot in RAW format, family weddings and all else I photograph, I can easily fill a DVD. Not everyone has high speed internet as some people still use dial up, though dial will die eventually.

I know I have a good 40gb at least just in software. With software, if you have a HD crash, you would have to get with tech support to reissue keys for your programs, which is not a good option that is fun, when a lot of times that support is in India or South America.

As for the "cloud" it will be a cold day when I store anything on it, as Win8 I will pass, and look to Linux. I see Win8 as a dumbing down for people who even have problems putting the same colored socks one.

[sandkicker]

I should have mentioned, that you can get a add-on for win8 that will allow you to use DVD's, but Microsoft will charge extra for that software enhancement. I started with win 3.1, I guess my loyalty to MicroSoft ends with win7.

[dfschmid]

I will not be upgrading to Windows 8.

"Dammit Jim, I use a desktop, not a snot-ridden touch screen!"

[JasonStrothmann]

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

The removal of DVD movie playback support will save them licencing fees for including a DVD encoder. Consumers and computer manufacturers are very price sensitive.

This is a moot point anyway. If you look at any consumer level PC at a big box store, its clear they all come with third party software for DVD playback. The inclusion of third party DVD player software by OEMs makes it unnecessary for Microsoft to include.

[JasonStrothmann]

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means. I have a lot of somewhat expensive software on Both DVD and CD for photography. When I shoot in RAW format, family weddings and all else I photograph, I can easily fill a DVD. Not everyone has high speed internet as some people still use dial up, though dial will die eventually.

I know I have a good 40gb at least just in software. With software, if you have a HD crash, you would have to get with tech support to reissue keys for your programs, which is not a good option that is fun, when a lot of times that support is in India or South America.

As for the "cloud" it will be a cold day when I store anything on it, as Win8 I will pass, and look to Linux. I see Win8 as a dumbing down for people who even have problems putting the same colored socks one.

What is mentioned is the dropping of native DVD movie playback support. Windows XP and the Starter and Basic editions of Windows Vista/7 both did not feature included DVD decoding (DVD movie playback). XP users relied on third party software included by the computer manufacturer.

This is a moot point anyway. Consumer level PCs come with third party DVD or Bluray playback software anyway, which is why it is unnecessary for Microsoft to include it.

What it comes down to is, why charge consumers for something - and its consumers that ultimately foot the bill - that they don't need. If you build your own computer and bought an OEM DVD drive, you can pay Microsoft for a decoder or purchase one from a third party. If you buy a retail DVD drive, chances are it comes with included software for DVD movie playback, and if it doesn't, manufacturers of these drives will adapt to the market and provide the software.

This post has been edited by JasonStrothmann: 05 May 2012 - 05:47 PM

[mike6875]

Doe's anyone here really think that MS is going pass on any cost savings to the consumer?

[AsdfJkl1vri]

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII.

Revolutionary? All they did was they've just stuck Metro and Windows 7 together... all in a panic and desperation since the iPad started to spread. MS is slowly starting to become more and more irrelevant as they constantly play catch-up to the rest of the industry.

[StephenKennedy]

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means. I have a lot of somewhat expensive software on Both DVD and CD for photography. When I shoot in RAW format, family weddings and all else I photograph, I can easily fill a DVD. Not everyone has high speed internet as some people still use dial up, though dial will die eventually.

I know I have a good 40gb at least just in software. With software, if you have a HD crash, you would have to get with tech support to reissue keys for your programs, which is not a good option that is fun, when a lot of times that support is in India or South America.

As for the "cloud" it will be a cold day when I store anything on it, as Win8 I will pass, and look to Linux. I see Win8 as a dumbing down for people who even have problems putting the same colored socks one.

Enough! The whole lack of DVD support is a complete lie starting by Microsoft/Windows 8 haters to get other unsusptecting people to join them in hating Windows 8. It should be noted that Windows 8 upgrades or full installs will still be shipped on DVD's. Think about it logically, Windows 8 is intended to be fully backwards compatible with all software from previous versions of Windows. The Consumer and Developer Previews of it were released in ISO format to be burned onto a DVD.

Without DVD support, buying a Windows 8 upgrade or install disc wouldn't work... The entire "theory" contradicts itself. Now obviously Windows 8 Tablets won't have DVD drives included, but that doesn't mean the tablets won't support USB DVD Drives.

Windows 8 is still Windows 7 when you switch to desktop mode. The Metro Interface is mainly intended for tablets and compared to other tablet OS's, Metro is definitely the best. Anyways, stop falling for everything the Microsoft haters are telling you. They're all just lies that don't even make sense from the beginning. I don't get how you even fell for the "no support for DVD's" theory.

[dcolley]

Probably does not work on existing equipment. A good reason to keep it quiet.

[Mayank781]

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

Removing DVD support will help Microsoft reduce licensing costs. It's ironical that Windows 8 is being hated for this lack of feature although XP and starter versions of Windows Vista & 7 also had this limitation. New PCs generally ship with third party DVD decoding software. VLC is a good free alternative(better than what Microsoft provides). It does not matter much to me because I mainly used 3rd party programs. Other alternatives are Cyberlink's Power DVD suite.

[JuanitoTantan]

dcolley, on 06 May 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

Probably does not work on existing equipment. A good reason to keep it quiet.

I've been using Win8 CP for the last couple of months on a computer that's 5 years old. It is awesome.

[msbpodcastmbgs]

Its not going to find much traction with the corporate desktop who HATE CHANGE.

Its not going to find much traction with PC makers because Microsoft can't make a business case for them to get off of Windows 7 because their client, the corporate PC buyers are not interested.

Its not going to find much traction with consumers who don't have the budget and aren't bound by depreciation rules which say that their machine is no longer an asset after twelve to twenty-four months.

In fact, that's why everybody and their dog Spot is buying an iPad. Its CHEAPER than buying a new PC.

[waldojim]

ClaudeD, on 05 May 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

"Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS", revolutionary is apparently a buzz word for "so bad, its nearly uinusable". Yet there are always users out there whom want their computer to look like a cell phone. The there is who needs a 20 lb cell phone and how long do you want to scroll around looking for your app. MILLENNIUM, VISTA, WINDOWS 8, all share a lot of commonality, they stink. But complain all you want either way all the new pc's after X date will have the Win8\cell phone looking interface and like Vista's record sales, Windows 8 will share in its glory of record sales(liars). If we are lucky the downturn in the economy will make Win8 look like it really is..... The more scary parts is what can MS do for the next version of windows, although it would be hard to believe they could make it more difficult to use than Win8 but it is likely they could.

Scroll around looking for an app? Never have. I have DOZENS of applications I have installed on my Windows 8 machines, and they are easier NOW to find than they ever were under Windows prior. Something about just having the icon I need rather than a sub menu of a sub menu of a sub menu buried with no rhyme or reason holding a dozen tiny icons that are everything but the one I need hiding the actual application.

Windows 8 has been surprisingly decent, and is considerably more efficient than Windows 7 or Vista. The new scheduler has finally given my media center much needed new life. If you never used Windows 8, you wouldn't see the improvements, or how they help.