[waldojim]

StephenKennedy, on 05 May 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

Enough! The whole lack of DVD support is a complete lie starting by Microsoft/Windows 8 haters to get other unsusptecting people to join them in hating Windows 8. It should be noted that Windows 8 upgrades or full installs will still be shipped on DVD's. Think about it logically, Windows 8 is intended to be fully backwards compatible with all software from previous versions of Windows. The Consumer and Developer Previews of it were released in ISO format to be burned onto a DVD.

Without DVD support, buying a Windows 8 upgrade or install disc wouldn't work... The entire "theory" contradicts itself. Now obviously Windows 8 Tablets won't have DVD drives included, but that doesn't mean the tablets won't support USB DVD Drives.

Windows 8 is still Windows 7 when you switch to desktop mode. The Metro Interface is mainly intended for tablets and compared to other tablet OS's, Metro is definitely the best. Anyways, stop falling for everything the Microsoft haters are telling you. They're all just lies that don't even make sense from the beginning. I don't get how you even fell for the "no support for DVD's" theory.

I think you misunderstood the situation. Windows 8 will not ship with the ability to play DVD Video. No one has claimed the are removing support for DVD formats - only the ability to watch movies with Media Player.

No big loss in my opinion, I use Nero for all my DVD Playback, and am stuck with 3 different BR packages to watch movies.

[waldojim]

AsdfJkl1vri, on 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII.

Revolutionary? All they did was they've just stuck Metro and Windows 7 together... all in a panic and desperation since the iPad started to spread. MS is slowly starting to become more and more irrelevant as they constantly play catch-up to the rest of the industry.

It is obvious you never used the Windows 8 previews. There is SO much more that happened. Install it, try it, and keep an open mind. When you see the performance changes, and see just how FAST Windows 8 is, you will eat your words.

[Soundjudgment]

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means.

Obviously, you don't know what it means... since it doesn't mean that at all.

[ronin7752]

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

JohnUSA, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

This is really a moot point as I and many, many other Windows users will never upgrade or want the abysmal Windows 8.
It is a horrible OS. Will never touch it.
Microsoft just also helped me seal up my mind by being ridiculously stupid and removing DVD support from this OS.
Why in the world should I use an OS that is very user unfriendly, irritating to use and now offers a lot less.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with Windows 8. Guaranteed.

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII. No you may have an opinion, but the facts point to a very successful launch of this. IE 1 million downloads in 48 hours of the consumer preview. Microsoft will be here, no matter how much you dislike the products they produce.

And never criticize what you don't have any concept of understanding. Windows 8 will be absolutley nothing like *any* M$ release of *any* software in their entire history. This will be "The beginning of the end" for M$. Guaranteed? No. But I would bet serious money on it. And I would never have done that on *any* previous M$ product. ...Except "Bob".

[ronin7752]

waldojim, on 06 May 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

AsdfJkl1vri, on 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII.

Revolutionary? All they did was they've just stuck Metro and Windows 7 together... all in a panic and desperation since the iPad started to spread. MS is slowly starting to become more and more irrelevant as they constantly play catch-up to the rest of the industry.

It is obvious you never used the Windows 8 previews. There is SO much more that happened. Install it, try it, and keep an open mind. When you see the performance changes, and see just how FAST Windows 8 is, you will eat your words.

If all you care about is "speed", then *you* must be another of those ivory-tower, armchair PC enthusiasts who have no idea how the remaining 95% of end users -- the ones who don't even know that Win 8 is coming, much less how it will (unpleasantly) rock their world -- use their personal computers, nor how much they will *hate* the changes in Windows 8.

[ronin7752]

Soundjudgment, on 06 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means.

Obviously, you don't know what it means... since it doesn't mean that at all.

Moot point. Many people (mistakenly) think that Win 8 systems won't *read* DVDs, when the truth is that Win 8 / Windows Media Player will simply not *play* DVDs of movies. It all comes down to the same thing -- the mega-multi-billion-dollar Microsoft has to "nickel-and-dime" their customers for little stuff like DVD codecs in order to stay afloat. This is a *true* sign of a failing company. Squeezing your customers for pennies is an act of desperation.

[ronin7752]

dfschmid, on 05 May 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

I will not be upgrading to Windows 8.

"Dammit Jim, I use a desktop, not a snot-ridden touch screen!"

LOL! This should be the epitaph for Win 8!

[waldojim]

ronin7752, on 06 May 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

waldojim, on 06 May 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

AsdfJkl1vri, on 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII.

Revolutionary? All they did was they've just stuck Metro and Windows 7 together... all in a panic and desperation since the iPad started to spread. MS is slowly starting to become more and more irrelevant as they constantly play catch-up to the rest of the industry.

It is obvious you never used the Windows 8 previews. There is SO much more that happened. Install it, try it, and keep an open mind. When you see the performance changes, and see just how FAST Windows 8 is, you will eat your words.

If all you care about is "speed", then *you* must be another of those ivory-tower, armchair PC enthusiasts who have no idea how the remaining 95% of end users -- the ones who don't even know that Win 8 is coming, much less how it will (unpleasantly) rock their world -- use their personal computers, nor how much they will *hate* the changes in Windows 8.

Did I say that was the only change? No? Maybe before you make smart ass comments you consider why that was brought up. It has nothing to do with raw performance, it has everything to do with how the machine feels. Just like those people that got an SSD and never looked back. That SSD could have slower throughputs than their sinner counterpart, but the machine will still feel more responsive. In the end, the experience is where it is at.

Again, try it first, with an open mind. Not the closed mindedness you have shown here.

[waldojim]

ronin7752, on 06 May 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Soundjudgment, on 06 May 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I too will pass on Win8, without DVD support if it means what I think it means.

Obviously, you don't know what it means... since it doesn't mean that at all.

Moot point. Many people (mistakenly) think that Win 8 systems won't *read* DVDs, when the truth is that Win 8 / Windows Media Player will simply not *play* DVDs of movies. It all comes down to the same thing -- the mega-multi-billion-dollar Microsoft has to "nickel-and-dime" their customers for little stuff like DVD codecs in order to stay afloat. This is a *true* sign of a failing company. Squeezing your customers for pennies is an act of desperation.

OR, they decided not to pay for the rights to play dvds on this version of Windows after discovering that MOST people either don't watch movies on their PC, or already have other software they prefer to use. I know I fall into that later category on all my machines. Anyone buying a laptop or desktop retail also have that solution. Anyone building their machine still has choices out there.

[SeSorrow]

sandkicker, on 05 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

I should have mentioned, that you can get a add-on for win8 that will allow you to use DVD's, but Microsoft will charge extra for that software enhancement. I started with win 3.1, I guess my loyalty to MicroSoft ends with win7.

The DVD support is only for movie DVD's not data DVDs. Your software and storage will be fine. But I hope you make the move to Linux anyway as I like Linux.

[BulldogXX]

Looks like Microsoft employees and fanboys have been told to get active in the Comments sections.

[waldojim]

BulldogXX, on 07 May 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Looks like Microsoft employees and fanboys have been told to get active in the Comments sections.

That makes far more sense than people using these machines speaking out about practicality. Like those of us who have used various operating systems for years and never used the default media player.

[ScientificBobn8zt]

AsdfJkl1vri, on 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

RichardHurst, on 05 May 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Never guarantee something you yourself have no control over. Windows 8 is a revolutionary OS. Step out of the norm unseen since Windows 95 or AppleII.

Revolutionary? All they did was they've just stuck Metro and Windows 7 together... all in a panic and desperation since the iPad started to spread. MS is slowly starting to become more and more irrelevant as they constantly play catch-up to the rest of the industry.

Funny how you don't realise that windows 8 (which includes the metro interface, the kernel work and winRT) was already in development even before half of the puny apple employees realised their mother ship was about the release the ipad.

Win8 development started immediatly after win7 launch.
Do you really believe msft would have been capable of developing an entirely new application model, interface, port to ARM, a store,... in a year? Because if you think win8 is a response to the ipad, then THAT is what you are saying: that they did all that in little over a year.

Catch-up... seriously... You clearly have no idea what's in win8.
The state of the CP today already is MILES ahead of anything google or apple has to offer.