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[geek]

Finally some competency

[hastaluego249]

You also have to count all the returns after christmas of people that wanted the iPad instead. I guess when you inflate numbers it always bites you back.

[Fatesrider]

hastaluego249, on 04 May 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

You also have to count all the returns after christmas of people that wanted the iPad instead. I guess when you inflate numbers it always bites you back.

Hmmm... Seems to me someone is inflating numbers by that post. Unless you can substantiate your contention that Fires were exchanged for iPads (and I dare you to find a single case of that), you are as guilty of misleading people as those who can't figure out the difference between shipments and sales.

[jhenkinson]

hastaluego249, on 04 May 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

I guess when you inflate numbers it always bites you back.

Yeah, and I wonder how many of 15 million iPads sold last year are inflated figure surely 3 times as inflated as the 5 million Kindle Fires?

Ha!

This post has been edited by jhenkinson: 04 May 2012 - 11:56 PM

[Nuke61]

jhenkinson, on 04 May 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

hastaluego249, on 04 May 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

I guess when you inflate numbers it always bites you back.

Yeah, and I wonder how many of 15 million iPads sold last year are inflated figure surely 3 times as inflated as the 5 million Kindle Fires?
Ha!

Apple reports sales figures, not shipments, and it does that every quarter. For the fiscal 4th Quarter of 2011 it sold 11.12 iPads, 15.43 in the 2012 fiscal 1st Quarter, and 11.8 million in the most recent quarter.

http://www.apple.com...er-Results.html

I think the REAL question should be, if this research group was able to report actual sales of Kindle Fires, why didn't they do that for the Christmas period? Or further, why doesn't Amazon do that? Maybe because they don't want to report that the best selling Android tablet sold 1.8 million in the 1st Quarter of 2012, knowing that 11.8 million iPads were sold over the same time period?

This post has been edited by Nuke61: 05 May 2012 - 05:43 AM

[Mattvm8v]

If Android is so popular how's come it's Apple that releases number of units sold while Android companies insist on mentioning units shipped?

I'm sorry but units shipped is not equal to units sold. You can ship a million units, that doesn't mean you sold a million units.

I tend to agree with Nuke61 on this. I think Amazon is purposely holding back units sold knowing the iPad has sold 5-10x more units than Kindle Fire has sold over the same period of time.

[Kahuna]

The blame goes to Amazon for being deliberately opaque regarding the sales of its tablet when it really has nothing to be ashamed of.

Amazon is selling a very cheap tablet that is adequate for what it does. It will never be an iPad and doesn't pretend to be. It will never sell as many units as the iPad does and that's OK.

Amazon should realize that second place doesn't necessarily mean second-rate. Although sometimes it does.

[rgeiken]

I don't own either one, so doesn't bother me one way or another. Since there seems to be more places that the i pad can be used, it seems that it should have higher sales figures. Also, Apple has created a site where it is easy for people to get apps that work with it, and most people will chose easy or anything else.

[Gnostradamus]

Mattvm8v, on 05 May 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

I'm sorry but units shipped is not equal to units sold. You can ship a million units, that doesn't mean you sold a million units.

Mattvm8v, shipments was a fraction of a million. Sales are a million. Read the damn article, please.

To all iFans, Tim Cook's not your sugardaddy, and please stop being in love with a brand.

[MelCizadek]

So you're going to believe NPD who who with their completely erroneous report of the iPhone having only 27% smartphone marketshare in the USA was shown to be complete bollocks?

After actual sales figures from the carriers themselves came in showing that 63% of the 3 top carrier's smartphone sales (80% of the market) were iPhones, it became patently obvious that NPD's use of consumer surveys for their data is completely flawed.

Face it, Kindle Fire sales fell off a cliff and no amount of spin is going to change that.

[Chrispkc7]

jk

[Gambrinus]

1.8 million units is still not bad, considering the playbook, which is a far superior product, sold 1 million or so.
But then again, the ipad sells much more, and while not a bad product, it's a ripoff.

This is what happens when tech gets to be a commodity and people's decisions are 10% usage (bang for the buck) 90% "identification" (err... effects of advertisement) -- one only has to read the "my tablet brand sells more than yours" comments and arguments.

[ChadwickDavis]

Wouldn't this also mean that the large figure for Q4 shipments distorts the sales figure for that period?

The lowered shipments definitely mean SOMETHING, ignoring them is foolish.

Q2 2012 should be telling.